EE Broadway Local Posted March 16, 2011 Share #1 Posted March 16, 2011 Which color do you like better on these bullets: or 70(A): or 70(D): or 70(1): or 70(4): or 70(N): (Mx) or 70(M): or 70(J): or 70(7): or 70(LL): or 70(GG): or 70(SS) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted March 16, 2011 Share #2 Posted March 16, 2011 I like the current color system, it makes the maps less cluttered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted March 16, 2011 Share #3 Posted March 16, 2011 The current ones are better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 16, 2011 Share #4 Posted March 16, 2011 The current ones are fine. Why did they switch the to become the anyway and the ( to become the ? :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted March 16, 2011 Share #5 Posted March 16, 2011 Why did they switch the to become the anyway and the ( to become the ? :mad: B/c the West End riders wanted 24 hrs direct service to 6th Avenue and I believe same goes for the Brighton riders to Broadway....if I'm wrong someone can correct me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted March 16, 2011 Share #6 Posted March 16, 2011 B/c the West End riders wanted 24 hrs direct service to 6th Avenue and I believe same goes for the Brighton riders to Broadway....if I'm wrong someone can correct me! You hit the bull's eye, Curtis! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share #7 Posted March 16, 2011 70(EE) doesn't disagree. I tried to pick the closest route color on each trunk group. It seems like the current Eighth Avenue is a shade darker ( vs. 70(E)) and same with Seventh Avenue ( vs. 70(2)) while Sixth Avenue seems to be a shade lighter. Broadway , to me 70(N) seems the closest match I could get while Lexington and Flushing and the Shuttles had no close match to todays color. Nassau Street, I am basically asking if you like the brown and if the shade is too dark or if the MTA could have picked a different color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted March 16, 2011 Share #8 Posted March 16, 2011 I think the current colors are just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted March 17, 2011 Share #9 Posted March 17, 2011 No color complaints. Now shuttles are another question but that's not the gist of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share #10 Posted March 17, 2011 These colors changed in 1979: 70(3) to : 70(4) to : 70(5) to : 70(6) to : 70(7) to : 70( to ( : 70(CC) to : 70(F) to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted March 17, 2011 Share #11 Posted March 17, 2011 The logical way they lump routes using the same Manhattan avenues into the same color scheme makes me wonder if at the time they were inspired by other transit systems that having fewer routes simply identify them by color, as in "Red Line", Orange Line", etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGerald Posted March 17, 2011 Share #12 Posted March 17, 2011 There is something called the subway map, another thing called the actual city streets and places, and people's logical connections between the two - hopefully in a compact readable form. When each subway line was given its own color, on subway maps in the 1960-70's, it was easy to see the path of each individual line. However the maps as a whole looked like a spaghetti mess of different colors going all over the map, since many lines used the same color - for example the E, #3 and M were all light blue. In order to show each line - and there were many subway routes (part-time, rush hours only, regular hours, off-hour shuttles, etc) - the subway map becomes a distorted view of Manhattan and the city as a whole. The set of subway maps that were more graphic, and straight angled further distorted the shape of the city, and where things were in relation to each other. Believe it or not, but there are debates among map makers about effective subway and transit maps. The effort by the MTA in the 1980's and 1990's was to simplify the subway map - thus a single color for the major trunk line was used for all branches. This map was suggested as a way to better show the shape of the city, where things are in relation to each other, a relative sense of distances, plus some information about the various lines, buses and routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted March 17, 2011 Share #13 Posted March 17, 2011 The Brown J R M Z does it for me but I do have a cool Black Diamond RR that's hot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted March 17, 2011 Share #14 Posted March 17, 2011 The was the only B Division line to not have a double-lettered variant back in the day. The , (, , , , , , , , , , , , , and all did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpomarx42 Posted March 18, 2011 Share #15 Posted March 18, 2011 I don't know if it's just me, but it seems like the shade of orange used on the ( (and (Q6Av) ) has turned a shade lighter. If you look at the on a wayfinder sign, it's lighter than the and . I'll try and find a photo to show it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted March 18, 2011 Share #16 Posted March 18, 2011 I like the older system better since it put more emphasis on the route letters/numbers over the color. The color system could be more confusing to a tourist since they might think that each color is its own route. (i.e. if one wanted to go to Uptown Manhattan they might take an instead since it is blue like the and .) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted March 18, 2011 Share #17 Posted March 18, 2011 The was the only B Division line to not have a double-lettered variant back in the day. The , (, , , , , , , , , , , , , and all did. No not true. The was never doubled letter nor the (Except QB which i don't count) But the rest yeah. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway_nomenclature#After_Chrystie_Street As for which color system i prefer, the current, even tho i wish i lived in the 70s and 80s to see how the system was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alargule Posted March 18, 2011 Share #18 Posted March 18, 2011 If you look carefully at the present-day subway map, you'll see it looks a bit like a rainbow in the central (Manhattan) part, starting with a dark color on the left side (blue - Eighth Avenue), then going through the warm and bright colors (red, yellow and orange) back to green for the Lexington Avenue line. I don't think that's a coincidence BTW SecondAvenueSagas has some great articles on the design of today's subway map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted March 18, 2011 Share #19 Posted March 18, 2011 I like where things are today. No confusion, at least not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGTeleport Posted March 18, 2011 Share #20 Posted March 18, 2011 The BB was doubled pre-Chrystie. The DD was used when that water main burst whilst they were constructing the 6th Avenue express tracks. As for the colors, I generally like the current ones, but I think it's a bit unkind to color-blind people to use red and green on the mainline IRT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted March 18, 2011 Share #21 Posted March 18, 2011 I know one thing - if the doesn't order cars that can display the route in its actual color before the R62s & R68s are retired, it won't matter what the bullet colors are as they'll all be red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpomarx42 Posted March 22, 2011 Share #22 Posted March 22, 2011 I know one thing - if the doesn't order cars that can display the route in its actual color before the R62s & R68s are retired, it won't matter what the bullet colors are as they'll all be red. What about the interior FIND displays? They'll still show it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Avenue El Posted March 26, 2011 Share #23 Posted March 26, 2011 i like the current color bullets better IRT 7th avenue line IRT lexington avenue line IRT flushing line BMT brighton line ( BMT west end line BMT culver line BMT sea beach line BMT jamaica line BMT myrtle avenue line BMT canarsie line IND 8th avenue line IND crosstown line IND rockaway line those are the bullets i like and colors more easier to identify if i did NOT identify all current bullets and colors please CORRECT me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share #24 Posted March 27, 2011 Thank you. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaramelFrapp Posted March 29, 2011 Share #25 Posted March 29, 2011 I like the current ones. Prior to coming to this forum, I didn't even know bullet colors were different back in the 70s (80s baby here LOL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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