SUBWAY - Random Thoughts Topic

[Eric B]

Late with this (so much going on in recent years), but two years ago,  the current BMT/IND service surpassed the original Chrystie St. service pattern, which lasted 18 years and 5 months (11-26-67 to 4-26-86, when we entered 18 years of reconstruction with temporary service change patterns lasting years at a time! Serious problems, with intermittent smaller [but growing] shutdowns had begun four years before that! )
Growing up in the Chrystie era, that seemed universal, and forever. Then, when all the shutdowns and reroutes began, it seemed we'd never get back to normal. (Remember when the Canal St. bridge tracks seemed abandoned forever; with at one point, the track bed broken up?)

 When it was finally finished, 2-04, the new pattern on the directly affected lines was totally different ((B)/(D) swap), but did make sense as to simplifying the service. The public seems to be fine with it (where the original Chrystie plan had been forced on them against their wishes. The new pattern has some elements of the old pre-Chrystie layout, such as the full time Bway service and the two weekday services to Astoria, with both Queens lines having local service to lower Manhattan).

I back then imagined the day when that would be as long established as the old Chrystie pattern, or if a new round of bridge problems would surface when the work they did would "wear off"; but the time flew, and the bridge work seems to be holding up this time (for now), and so we've passed the duration of the old pattern,  and for the forseeable future.

[TyBusLover1]

R211A/Ts I rode today: 4089(A) 4219(A) 4041(C) and another R211A but I forgot.

[darkstar8983]

Can anyone confirm this new change on the  train programs: 

When biking over the Williamsburg Bridge, I saw an R179  train running to Manhattan in the morning and said 

 - Jamaica Skip-Stop

 - Broadway Local

 - Broad St

 

Instead of:

 - Skip-Stop

 - Jamaica Exp

 - Broad St

[Calvin]

This past weekdays and up to today on a Friday, due to the  ending and starting at E. 180 St, the three late PM rush trains that were scheduled to Utica Av were extended to New Lots Av. There was only 5 minute holds only at Van Siclen Av. 

[R32 3838]

Rode an R179 on both the and recently and these cars really grew on me on how fast and smooth these are. I just hope they keep them on the and because it would make no sense to move them else where (besides the 8 car units). I just pray these don't end up in CI yard because the BMT south is just slow, the only good part of the line is 4th ave, Everything else sucks. This is why i like the techs on the IND lines better since it's not too many slow spots in the IND vs the BMT.

[CenSin]

On 4/29/2024 at 8:35 PM, R32 3838 said:

the only good part of the line is 4th ave

IMO, it’s pretty good in many sections like 86 Street through 8 Avenue, 59 Street through Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center, the Manhattan Bridge through 34 Street, and the 60 Street Tunnel. BMT curves and switches just suck, but the  is a pretty good route for the physical infrastructure it’s got to navigate.

The  slowdowns around Canal Street though… no excuse. CBTC hopefully fixes that.

[CyclonicTrainLookout]

On 4/25/2024 at 11:53 PM, darkstar8983 said:

Can anyone confirm this new change on the  train programs: 

When biking over the Williamsburg Bridge, I saw an R179  train running to Manhattan in the morning and said 

 - Jamaica Skip-Stop

 - Broadway Local

 - Broad St

 

Instead of:

 - Skip-Stop

 - Jamaica Exp

 - Broad St

If I have to guess, the above program is skip-stop service but trains stops at Flushing Av, Lorimer St, and Hewes St (hence the "Broadway Local"), whereas the bottom program is the usual skip-stop, Myrtle-Marcy express service. Probably something happened that caused that particular  train to make stops at those three stations and the conductor had changed the program midway.

Edited Wednesday at 06:56 PM by CyclonicTrainLookout

[ArchytectAnthony]

On 4/30/2024 at 10:26 PM, CenSin said:

IMO, it’s pretty good in many sections like 86 Street through 8 Avenue, 59 Street through Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center, the Manhattan Bridge through 34 Street, and the 60 Street Tunnel. BMT curves and switches just suck, but the  is a pretty good route for the physical infrastructure it’s got to navigate.

My thoughts exactly, the BMT can also be pretty good too. It might be just me but I swear like half the transit community always roasts the BMT more than it really deserves, especially when some of the issues it has is the same on the IRT and IND.

I remember riding an from QB plaza to Brooklyn and my T/O hauled the entire way, didn't feel slow at all. Despite how sharp many BMT curves are, trains can still go surprisingly fast on them lol. (Atlantic Ave. curve and 38 st. portal for example). 

[Calvin]

A note to all who rides, photographs the system to be careful out there. Especially not to stand very close to the platform as you'll never know what you'll come across. Earlier today, at 7:16 PM at Kings Highway on the  . It was shouted from three individuals on the train at three of the eight cars in the back of the Coney Island side, a man went and slapped two seperate woman and a male was punched between Newkirk Plaza and Avenue M. As the train got to Kings Highway, riders shouted to not have the train leave the station to avoid more trouble that'll go on and exits were blocked so, the police can be on their way that happened 10 minutes responded. At that time, the suspect was held by three other indivduals so, that way officers are there to take the suspect away. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Calvin

[Wallyhorse]

3 hours ago, Calvin said:

A note to all who rides, photographs the system to be careful out there. Especially not to stand very close to the platform as you'll never know what you'll come across. Earlier today, at 7:16 PM at Kings Highway on the  . It was shouted from three individuals on the train at three of the eight cars in the back of the Coney Island side, a man went and slapped two seperate woman and a male was punched between Newkirk Plaza and Avenue M. As the train got to Kings Highway, riders shouted to not have the train leave the station to avoid more trouble that'll go on and exits were blocked so, the police can be on their way that happened 10 minutes responded. At that time, the suspect was held by three other indivduals so, that way officers are there to take the suspect away. 

Shows how sick some people are.