Gotham Bus Co. Posted December 19, 2014 Share #3876 Posted December 19, 2014 It was only that outbound trip leaving before 10 AM that was cut, and for the most part, service redistrubuted throughout the rest of the rush hour. There have been talks to try to get extra QM24 service running, but that has almost always never left the planning stage. What are the average per-trip loads? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted December 21, 2014 Share #3877 Posted December 21, 2014 Reading a post on subchat, I see some organization (NYMTC) coming out with Q66's running from Flushing to Columbus Circle... That's not the first time I've heard this idea floating around either.... Hell, I don't think the Q66 should run to Queensboro Plaza, let alone Columbus Circle.... You want to quell problems on the Q66, cut it to Northern Blvd. subway, or run it down to the via the Q104... SBS-ing the Q66 isn't going to cure much of anything along Northern Blvd..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share #3878 Posted December 21, 2014 Q66 to Columbus Circle? Are they high? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted December 21, 2014 Share #3879 Posted December 21, 2014 NYMTC is the planning organization that all the federal money for New York City gets funneled through. They're used to big capital projects, not bus routes. The day a Columbus Circle-Queens route is a good idea is the day the QB has a bus lane, which is never going to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted December 21, 2014 Share #3880 Posted December 21, 2014 Totally ignoring how long the route already is from Flushing to Columbus Circle, what would the routing even be in Manhattan? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted December 21, 2014 Share #3881 Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) NYMTC is the planning organization that all the federal money for New York City gets funneled through. They're used to big capital projects, not bus routes. The day a Columbus Circle-Queens route is a good idea is the day the QB has a bus lane, which is never going to happen. Since that's the case, maybe they should stay in their "lane".... Totally ignoring how long the route already is from Flushing to Columbus Circle, what would the routing even be in Manhattan? probably via 2nd/3rd, to/from 57th.... terminate with the M10.... Edited December 21, 2014 by B35 via Church 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share #3882 Posted December 21, 2014 Absolutely no demand for it...it's called the to the 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted December 21, 2014 Share #3883 Posted December 21, 2014 Absolutely no demand for it...it's called the to the ....or the Q66 to the [57th] and a walk! Q66 to columbus circle.... See, the crowds that sometimes accumulate for the Q66 at QBP don't fool me; the majority of those people generally ride no further than Ravenswood on the strength of *it's just another bus*; these same people can take the Q69 - and in the reverse direction, that's exactly what's done... Don't know how many times I've gotten off at 21st to see QBP bound Q66's carrying air, or less than a handful of ppl. from it.... So yeah, I'm not buying the necessity for Q66's to QBP as it is, and the Q66 to CC is simply plain damn crazy, for the reason you stated (no demand)..... The folks along/around Northern Blvd aren't tryna get to the west side of Manhattan, to have Q66's swinging out there... So it's like, what's the point of such an extension.... Who is this supposed to benefit? Riders that really want the Q32, but can't get to it feasibly because it runs too far east (in Manhattan) ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share #3884 Posted December 21, 2014 ....or the Q66 to the [57th] and a walk! Q66 to columbus circle.... See, the crowds that sometimes accumulate for the Q66 at QBP don't fool me; the majority of those people generally ride no further than Ravenswood on the strength of *it's just another bus*; these same people can take the Q69 - and in the reverse direction, that's exactly what's done... Don't know how many times I've gotten off at 21st to see QBP bound Q66's carrying air, or less than a handful of ppl. from it.... So yeah, I'm not buying the necessity for Q66's to QBP as it is, and the Q66 to CC is simply plain damn crazy, for the reason you stated (no demand)..... The folks along/around Northern Blvd aren't tryna get to the west side of Manhattan, to have Q66's swinging out there... So it's like, what's the point of such an extension.... Who is this supposed to benefit? Riders that really want the Q32, but can't get to it feasibly because it runs too far east (in Manhattan) ... You could add the Q100 to that equation too... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted December 21, 2014 Share #3885 Posted December 21, 2014 You could add the Q100 to that equation too... Nah, the Q100 gets usage north of Ravenswood at QBP & at the as well.... What I'm getting at with the Q66, the usage at QBP tends to die at Ravenswood - Then a new set of riders (new/different riderbase) gets on at the mall @ 48th, towards flushing.... I'm attacking the (inconsistent) usage west of the mall on 48th as a hindrance to the Q66 route as a whole... Extending the Q66 past where I think service shouldn't really be running anyway, is the absolute icing on the cake for me..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share #3886 Posted December 21, 2014 Nah, the Q100 gets usage north of Ravenswood at QBP & at the as well.... What I'm getting at with the Q66, the usage at QBP tends to die at Ravenswood - Then a new set of riders (new/different riderbase) gets on at the mall @ 48th, towards flushing.... I'm attacking the (inconsistent) usage west of the mall on 48th as a hindrance to the Q66 route as a whole... Extending the Q66 past where I think service shouldn't really be running anyway, is the absolute icing on the cake for me..... I could only imagine your reaction in 1989 when the Q66 was extended westward to Queensbridge... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted December 21, 2014 Share #3887 Posted December 21, 2014 Since that's the case, maybe they should stay in their "lane".... probably via 2nd/3rd, to/from 57th.... terminate with the M10.... They're probably bored (and the MTA almost never listens to other planning organizations anyways.) They have to do something, and they have to exist due to federal law, but given that no one has heard of this agency and all our money is tied up in SAS and East Side Access for the time being, they don't have anything to do. I agree though, they should stick to publishing that Hub-Bound traffic report they put out every year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted December 22, 2014 Share #3888 Posted December 22, 2014 I could only imagine your reaction in 1989 when the Q66 was extended westward to Queensbridge... I was only 7 or 8 when that happened, but I do understand it was extended, due to the 63rd st connector opening..... While I don't know how well that extension was received or utilized then, I've come to the conclusion that it's no longer needed now... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted December 22, 2014 Share #3889 Posted December 22, 2014 Q66 to Columbus Circle? Are they high? nah they are strung out on something not meant for this world. Totally ignoring how long the route already is from Flushing to Columbus Circle, what would the routing even be in Manhattan? none as more local buses in queens do not need Manhattan period. Q66 needs a truncation as does Q101. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted December 22, 2014 Share #3890 Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) none as more local buses in queens do not need Manhattan period. Q66 needs a truncation as does Q101. Yeah, I'd take the 101 out of Manhattan also.... I find that some of those people take 101's because they don't want to deal with the crowds on the 60..... Edited December 22, 2014 by B35 via Church 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted December 22, 2014 Share #3891 Posted December 22, 2014 nah they are strung out on something not meant for this world. none as more local buses in queens do not need Manhattan period. Q66 needs a truncation as does Q101. True. If anything, I would keep the Q66 as is, shorten the Q101 to Queens Plaza, and shorten the Q32 to Columbus Circle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted December 22, 2014 Share #3892 Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) True. If anything, I would keep the Q66 as is, shorten the Q101 to Queens Plaza, and shorten the Q32 to Columbus Circle. There is no demand for a Queens route to go to Columbus circle if anything the to the and walking is much faster than a bus that gets caught in traffic on the bridge. The Q32 goes to Penn Station not even go pass Columbus Circle. Edited December 22, 2014 by NewFlyer 230 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted December 22, 2014 Share #3893 Posted December 22, 2014 True. If anything, I would keep the Q66 as is, shorten the Q101 to Queens Plaza, and shorten the Q32 to Columbus Circle.tell that to the B35 guy he suggested Q66's truncation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted December 22, 2014 Share #3894 Posted December 22, 2014 tell that to the B35 guy he suggested Q66's truncation. ...and you're the "guy" that suggested the Q101 truncation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted December 22, 2014 Share #3895 Posted December 22, 2014 The Q32 goes to Penn Station not even go pass Columbus Circle. Yes, I know that, but it probably doesn't need to keep going there. Meanwhile, Columbus Circle would be a shorter route with a convenient place to turn around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted December 23, 2014 Share #3896 Posted December 23, 2014 Yes, I know that, but it probably doesn't need to keep going there. Meanwhile, Columbus Circle would be a shorter route with a convenient place to turn around. ...with much less riders utilizing the service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted January 1, 2015 Share #3897 Posted January 1, 2015 X63 Midday Service Last bus to Manhattan from Rosedale will be at 2:00 PM instead of 8:09 AM. First bus to Rosedale from Manhattan will leave at 11:00 AM instead of 3:49 PM. Buses will run on hourly headways starting from the 9 AM hour, and ending at 3 PM. However, there is a difference in routing: Buses will utilize the LIE, then get off on Exit 16, utilize Hunters Point Avenue, then right on Van Dam Street, utilize Queens Blvd bridge ramp, then get off the bridge, down 2 Avenue, right on 57 Street, and regular route The route will bypass 3 Avenue because of the increased runtime that it would cause, compared to the routing around LIC. Another proposal is to make the official routing of all the QM's on the LIE towards Queens , with the QM3 being the exception 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted January 1, 2015 Share #3898 Posted January 1, 2015 X63 Midday Service Last bus to Manhattan from Rosedale will be at 2:00 PM instead of 8:09 AM. First bus to Rosedale from Manhattan will leave at 11:00 AM instead of 3:49 PM. Buses will run on hourly headways starting from the 9 AM hour, and ending at 3 PM. However, there is a difference in routing: Buses will utilize the LIE, then get off on Exit 16, utilize Hunters Point Avenue, then right on Van Dam Street, utilize Queens Blvd bridge ramp, then get off the bridge, down 2 Avenue, right on 57 Street, and regular route The route will bypass 3 Avenue because of the increased runtime that it would cause, compared to the routing around LIC. Another proposal is to make the official routing of all the QM's on the LIE towards Queens , with the QM3 being the exception Why are you having the X63 use the Queensboro Bridge? Van Dam Street and Queens Blvd around the bridge are usually congested at certain hours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 1, 2015 Share #3899 Posted January 1, 2015 X63 Midday Service Last bus to Manhattan from Rosedale will be at 2:00 PM instead of 8:09 AM. First bus to Rosedale from Manhattan will leave at 11:00 AM instead of 3:49 PM. Buses will run on hourly headways starting from the 9 AM hour, and ending at 3 PM. However, there is a difference in routing: Buses will utilize the LIE, then get off on Exit 16, utilize Hunters Point Avenue, then right on Van Dam Street, utilize Queens Blvd bridge ramp, then get off the bridge, down 2 Avenue, right on 57 Street, and regular route The route will bypass 3 Avenue because of the increased runtime that it would cause, compared to the routing around LIC. Another proposal is to make the official routing of all the QM's on the LIE towards Queens , with the QM3 being the exception Why does the X63 need midday service when ridership continues to decrease on the line? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted January 2, 2015 Share #3900 Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) ....However, there is a difference in routing: Buses will utilize the LIE, then get off on Exit 16, utilize Hunters Point Avenue, then right on Van Dam Street, utilize Queens Blvd bridge ramp, then get off the bridge, down 2 Avenue, right on 57 Street, and regular route The route will bypass 3 Avenue because of the increased runtime that it would cause, compared to the routing around LIC. Trying to serve the industry with an express route again? This diversion sticks out to me more than the addition of midday service.... Edited January 2, 2015 by B35 via Church 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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