lilbluefoxie Posted February 1, 2013 Share #76 Posted February 1, 2013 What about the ? its stuck with shortened trains and ancient equipment. Then overnights the runs an extremely long local in absence of the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted February 1, 2013 Share #77 Posted February 1, 2013 In Brooklyn, even middays the Fulton line is like a ghost town other than broadway junction and maybe Utica. Cpw, you aren't saving much time running the express. Perhaps they should split the A, like send it to lefferts and run the other portion with a shuttle from Euclid or rockaway blvd. C should've had 10 car trains instead of being stuck for another 40 yrs as 8 car trains, too bad about the r32s, they aren't going anywhere till all the r179s are here, just deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted February 1, 2013 Share #78 Posted February 1, 2013 I believe the has plenty of seat availability during the off-peak because many Fulton Street riders are already in Manhattan (or Downtown Brooklyn) working. It certainly isn't empty when its running, since its crushloaded at rush hour from my prespective. Not only that, but there are lots of people in the summer who use it for Natural History of Museum. And its 10-12 minute headways are capable of handling the amount of passengers it carries when its running. Back to the , yes the should start improve service on the IND Crosstown Line as the areas are growing there. I love to see increase service and full length trains on the (and ). I hope for it to happen sometime in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted February 1, 2013 Share #79 Posted February 1, 2013 I should clarify that I'm talking about the C middays and late nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted February 1, 2013 Share #80 Posted February 1, 2013 The line is quite lightly traveled early evenings too (i.e. around 7:30 PMish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted February 1, 2013 Share #81 Posted February 1, 2013 The line is quite lightly traveled early evenings too (i.e. around 7:30 PMish). Must be because for most who are commuting from the LIC financial district also the industrial parks end their shifts at approximately 5PM from when I've worked there for the DOE last year I've noticed. I think. But with that stretch to the Metropolitan Ave hub, always busy, as others and myself (you too) discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted February 1, 2013 Share #82 Posted February 1, 2013 He was referring to the C, not the G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Posted February 1, 2013 Share #83 Posted February 1, 2013 Did I miss something? How does the figure into this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted February 1, 2013 Share #84 Posted February 1, 2013 Did I miss something? How does the figure into this? I had said that the is also a line that the MTA gives the short end of the stick to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted February 1, 2013 Share #85 Posted February 1, 2013 Did I miss something? How does the figure into this? It was a separate discussion. Just go back a page or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted February 1, 2013 Share #86 Posted February 1, 2013 Realizm: When I said the G, I mean late nights when the E is the only line running local and weekends when it is just the R. Basically when the M isn't there, QB has only 1 local line serving it. What I want is for QB to be 2 locals all the time like it used to be in the early part of the V's existence. No bottlenecks at all. I am well aware you can't run 3 locals at the same time to 71st. We could just bring the back. Even the will be coming back when the 2nd Ave line opens so why not? The extra service of the is a welcome addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted February 1, 2013 Share #87 Posted February 1, 2013 I dunno, then you may as well just run the M all week to qb. I don't think there's a need to bring the V back for the weekends, not to mention the confusions. The w I can see as possible, but that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted February 1, 2013 Share #88 Posted February 1, 2013 The possibility of the = Negative The possibility of the = Neutral chance, but I vote for the return. The is doing a far better job. Ridership up by 10% and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted February 1, 2013 Share #89 Posted February 1, 2013 W is not only possible, it is certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted February 1, 2013 Share #90 Posted February 1, 2013 He was referring to the C, not the G. Pays to read, thanks for the clarification GC. Disregard my previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Posted February 2, 2013 Share #91 Posted February 2, 2013 It was a separate discussion. Just go back a page or 2. It is indeed a separate discussion. That's why I questioned it. As an addendum, they can also make an out of station transfer at Fulton St to Atlantic center....there were rumblings about a tunnel, but I think an OOS transfer would be helpful there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted February 2, 2013 Share #92 Posted February 2, 2013 I do agree they should have an oos transfer, but I guess with the jay st-metro tech transfer, there's not really a big need for another ind to bmt transfer. Even though it is out of the way depending on where you are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted February 2, 2013 Share #93 Posted February 2, 2013 W is not only possible, it is certain. True, I'm sure it will definitely happen by 2016 at the very latest when the 2nd Ave Line is all green lights for revenue service. (I wonder if the straphangers will ride the again in just their draws in celebration of the return of the ? Maybe I should participate and wear nothing but underwear and a bow tie.... with combat boots.... Yeah. no? Maybe?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted February 2, 2013 Share #94 Posted February 2, 2013 True, I'm sure it will definitely happen by 2016 at the very latest when the 2nd Ave Line is all green lights for revenue service. (I wonder if the straphangers will ride the again in just their draws in celebration of the return of the ? Maybe I should participate and wear nothing but underwear and a bow tie.... with combat boots.... Yeah. no? Maybe?) Only as certain as the political representation of Astoria. Let's not forget the politicians are a major reason that Astoria gets what it wants. I doubt the MTA really wanted to run all of its Broadway services through a single track in each direction during peak hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted February 3, 2013 Share #95 Posted February 3, 2013 Only as certain as the political representation of Astoria. Let's not forget the politicians are a major reason that Astoria gets what it wants. I doubt the MTA really wanted to run all of its Broadway services through a single track in each direction during peak hours. Well don't forget that fact that the was a Broadway Express along with the also as an express terminating at 57th Street which from where the ROW to the 2nd Ave line starts, during the duration of the on Broadway before it's demise as a local, which was a hit with the supplemental local service. With the new connection from 57th Street to 63rd Lex and up 2nd Ave which the will utilize without interference at the swithes past 34th street I think that this could actually work with out the unnecessary bottlenecking at that point of the line. (Yeah I know it's bad as it is already) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted February 3, 2013 Share #96 Posted February 3, 2013 The will do what they'll do come 2016-2020. Just be ready for the unexpected. It's most likely that the BMT Astoria Line will get its headways adjusted to make the impact on ridership slightly less stressful. The has always been logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted February 3, 2013 Share #97 Posted February 3, 2013 ^Yup, The capital program can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted February 3, 2013 Share #98 Posted February 3, 2013 If trains still go to Church when Smith-9 is open, extra service can turn at Smith-9th. The to 71st with them will cause merging problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted February 3, 2013 Share #99 Posted February 3, 2013 Only as certain as the political representation of Astoria. Let's not forget the politicians are a major reason that Astoria gets what it wants. I doubt the MTA really wanted to run all of its Broadway services through a single track in each direction during peak hours. Well don't forget that fact that the was a Broadway Express along with the also as an express terminating at 57th Street which from where the ROW to the 2nd Ave line starts, during the duration of the on Broadway before it's demise as a local, which was a hit with the supplemental local service. With the new connection from 57th Street to 63rd Lex and up 2nd Ave which the will utilize without interference at the swithes past 34th street I think that this could actually work with out the unnecessary bottlenecking at that point of the line. (Yeah I know it's bad as it is already) Censin: I forgot to mention in my post that in my opinion the was not directly the cause and effect of the pressure from Astoria community leaders initially. Why? Because remember the was implemented as the result of needed repairs on the south side of the Manny B by the DOT. So that side was was closed and well service wasstill needed on the West End Line. Thus the implematation of the Broadway express. Then of course the needed a terminus so Ditmars was that terminus. They also did this with the reroute via Broadway back when the DOT needed to work on the north side of the bridge in the 80's so it was natural to the MTA to send West End Line trains to Astoria. it worked when they shut down the north side of the bridge and the Christie St Connection, so why not? Anyway, so after the service was restored on the south end of the bridge in 2001 they decided to run the as a local. Then the MTA ended up in the deficit and so the faded into history. Now that we are anticipating a surplus once again with the capital budget it would be feasible for the MTA to bring back the . Now that's where your point comes in, as since then, there was a very rapid population surge in Astoria necessitating the need for two Broadway services since when the repair work on the south end of the Manny B began with the DOT. Now with the going to 2nd Ave, the logical solution then would be for the MTA to bring back the to maintain a continuum of service on a now much more densely populated neighboorhood called Astoria. I can almost guarantee you that's exactly the logic of the MTA, to do just that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted February 3, 2013 Share #100 Posted February 3, 2013 The has always been logical. Like leaving the as 8-car trains for the next 40 years? Yup!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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