Pennsauken Transfer Station to open this Fall

[mfs NJT459]

The new train station in South Jersey will connect the River LINE and the Atlantic City Line together... the preliminary date is October 13th

 

http://articles.philly.com/2013-09-25/news/42361112_1_river-line-pennsauken-transit-center-atlantic-city-line

 

The upper level will be for the ACRL, and the lower level will be the River Line

 

The Delair Bridge used to be 1 track designated for Conrail freight (CSX, NS) and the other track for NJT.  Now both tracks will be used for both freight and passanger rail

 

Before that happens, the police wants to do an emergency drill on Sept 28th

http://www.njtransit.com/tm/tm_servlet.srv?hdnPageAction=PressReleaseTo&PRESS_RELEASE_ID=2888

 

whereas service on both River LINE and ACRL will be bustituted between Cherry Hill and 30th Street Station Philly, and 36th Street Station Camden and Rt 73 Pennsauken

 

 

This can be the thread for how schedules may be adjusted, as well as fares, and how the entire TVM system may be adjusted as far as ticketing from any NJT station up north to any NJT station on the ACRL via River Line vs "via SEPTA Trenton Line"

[qjtransitmaster]

The new train station in South Jersey will connect the River LINE and the Atlantic City Line together... the preliminary date is October 13th

 

http://articles.philly.com/2013-09-25/news/42361112_1_river-line-pennsauken-transit-center-atlantic-city-line

 

The upper level will be for the ACRL, and the lower level will be the River Line

 

The Delair Bridge used to be 1 track designated for Conrail freight (CSX, NS) and the other track for NJT.  Now both tracks will be used for both freight and passanger rail

 

Before that happens, the police wants to do an emergency drill on Sept 28th

 

http://www.njtransit.com/tm/tm_servlet.srv?hdnPageAction=PressReleaseTo&PRESS_RELEASE_ID=2888

 

whereas service on both River LINE and ACRL will be bustituted between Cherry Hill and 30th Street Station Philly, and 36th Street Station Camden and Rt 73 Pennsauken

 

 

This can be the thread for how schedules may be adjusted, as well as fares, and how the entire TVM system may be adjusted as far as ticketing from any NJT station up north to any NJT station on the ACRL via River Line vs "via SEPTA Trenton Line"

Via septa train ain't nobody got time for that.

[MarkD329]

If NJT does joint-ticketing between the RiverLINE with the ACRL, they should do joint ticketing with the NEC as well.

[46Dover]

If NJT does joint-ticketing between the RiverLINE with the ACRL, they should do joint ticketing with the NEC as well.

Can you imagine the fare from NYP to ACY via joint ticketing (just saying)?

[FlashThunder]

Can you imagine the fare from NYP to ACY via joint ticketing (just saying)?

 

That's what I call a one hell of a trip

[pjbr40]

if u ever plan to go to ac go by bus it faster in time wise. academy is way to go. 

rail is like 4 to 5 hours depend on day. if you go rush hour you can save some time here and there because of express train. The NEC has trenton express which stop at NYP, SEC, NWRK, NWRK AP, then Princeton, Hamilton and Trenton. and vice versa as well. then you need an hour time for SEPTA or and hour half for Riverline. If you go by Septa then you need to wait at 30 Street for ACY and same for Pennsauken.

[46Dover]

if u ever plan to go to ac go by bus it faster in time wise. academy is way to go.

rail is like 4 to 5 hours depend on day. if you go rush hour you can save some time here and there because of express train. The NEC has trenton express which stop at NYP, SEC, NWRK, NWRK AP, then Princeton, Hamilton and Trenton. and vice versa as well. then you need an hour time for SEPTA or and hour half for Riverline. If you go by Septa then you need to wait at 30 Street for ACY and same for Pennsauken.

Would imagine it would be a little bit faster from Trenton on the River Line when Pennsauken opens right? Granted it is a 3 train trip

Would imagine it would be a little bit faster from Trenton on the River Line when Pennsauken opens right? Granted it is a 3 train trip

Never mind. Didn't read that last statement

[qjtransitmaster]

if u ever plan to go to ac go by bus it faster in time wise. academy is way to go. 

rail is like 4 to 5 hours depend on day. if you go rush hour you can save some time here and there because of express train. The NEC has trenton express which stop at NYP, SEC, NWRK, NWRK AP, then Princeton, Hamilton and Trenton. and vice versa as well. then you need an hour time for SEPTA or and hour half for Riverline. If you go by Septa then you need to wait at 30 Street for ACY and same for Pennsauken.

It would cut down the current trip time from Mercer county as time to pennsahauken is less than to 30th street. So riverline is faster. Now those in Burlington county don't have to go through Camden for 551 anymore.

[mfs NJT459]

the thing is, there are only 2 319 trips from Journal Square and Newark Penn to AC weekdays during the non summer months, and one on weekends if you don't include the 67X transfer to 319 at Toms River

http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/bus/T0067.pdf

its beneficial for anyone going to AC by train from any station within NJ or Upstate NY, especially along the Northeast Corridor

[qjtransitmaster]

the thing is, there are only 2 319 trips from Journal Square and Newark Penn to AC weekdays during the non summer months, and one on weekends if you don't include the 67X transfer to 319 at Toms River

 

http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/bus/T0067.pdf

 

its beneficial for anyone going to AC by train from any station within NJ or Upstate NY, especially along the Northeast Corridor

67/319 from NWK. Is faster. No sane person in nwk or upstate ny would do that.

[pjbr40]

qt is correct because all the bus had to do is ride along the dsp which is about 5 miles away from atlantic city to go north and it non stop(charter and academy). the train had to make all the stop plus you have to way out west to the other side of nj then go little north then come all the way back to east. plus not all train make good timing to keep going. if dont have all the correct ticket and you need to use the TVM , there could be a long waitfor your turn. 

[mfs NJT459]

new timetables are out for the ACRL and RL, and they reflect the new station and the connections

the atlantic city rail line fares: $6.50 from AC to Pennsauken, $4.00 from Philly to Pennsauken... same as Cherry Hill in both directions

and here are pictures of the new interlockings near Pennsauken via the SJRA Yahoo Group

DIVIDE
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3638094

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3638099

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3638124

 

JORDAN

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3643983
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3643984

 

There will be bustitution between Cherry Hill and 30th Street Station from this Friday to early Monday morning to finalize the installation of the 2 new interlockings before this station can open

[pjbr40]

I was here on the first day it open. The area is nice and quiet. Right now only one side of the station is open which on the eastbound or southbound platform. This staircase is on the other side and hidden but you need to walk along the fence area next to the building. then when you finish passing the cylinder block wall the stairs and elevator is right there. 

 

My experience on Monday was ok. it seem like a long time because the layover was huge between the rail and light rail and rail. But the good part about this trip was so cheap. 

Monday

I took the 12:12 train from middletown to rahway. i had to wait at least 50 minute for the trenton train to come. At trenton, i walk across the street and the light rail was there and we waited like 30 minute. Nice ride to Pennsauken transit  but be careful there is another pennsauken stop before this stop. I went upstair and waited another 40 minutes. I didnt arrive to atlantic city till 5 pm. 

Wednesday 

i took the 853 am train from Atlantic City and got off at Pennsauken and walk downstair. there is a 5 to 7 minute layover for light rail to come. Nice ride back to trenton with a ticket inspector onboard. At trenton walk across the street back to main buiilding then waited like 5 minutes then rode to Rahway. i waited another 10 minutes there and didnt get back to middletown by 1 pm. 

 

Fares is so much cheaper because you dont have to pay out of state fee to Philadelphia. 

Newark to trenton to light rail to atlantic city

11.50 plus 1.50 plus 6.50=  19.50 for regular fare

5.25 plus .70 plus 3.00 = 8.95 for senior/disable/kid

 

Newark to Trenton to Septa to Atlantic city rail

11.50 plus 9.00 plus 10.00= 30.50 for regular fare

5.25 plus 4.50 plus 4.50= 14.25 for senior/disable

 

Newark to Trenton to Septa to Atlantic City Bus

11.50 plus 9.00 plus 16.50- 37  for regular fare

5.25 plus 4.50 plus 7.50= 17.25 for senior/disable

 

I wish all the vending machine have the ticket options to buy in advance, but the light rail need to be on it own because it need a time stamp. Make sure you have a ticket with you on riverline there is an inspector ride the train and will check on you. If you are new to this riverline it two stop after palmyria. and riverline is one fare with no zone. Dont get the ticket that had transfer. Also in pennsauken there is no store to go to if you need a snack or drink.  It a huge parking lot for park and ride.

[Amtrak7]

In terms of fares, here's another comparison that doesn't really look so good:

 

NYP to TRE to Pennsauken to ACY: 15.50, 1.50, 6.50 = $23.50 one way, $47 round trip

PABT to ACY via 319: 35.75 one way, $39 round trip

[pjbr40]

here better saving option

 

path to newark atlantic city bus way

2.5o plus 28,25 = 30.75

 

path to newark to trenton to pennsauken to atlantic city

2.50+ 11.50+ 1.50+ 6.50= 22.00

 

Amtrak the problem is that njtransit is getting high fees for crossing out of state

[B35 via Church]

Amtrak the problem is that njtransit is getting high fees for crossing out of state

This is what NJT banks on.... For instance, NJT makes a killing w/ the #551.

[Amtrak7]

here better saving option

 

path to newark atlantic city bus way

2.5o plus 28,25 = 30.75

 

path to newark to trenton to pennsauken to atlantic city

2.50+ 11.50+ 1.50+ 6.50= 22.00

 

Amtrak the problem is that njtransit is getting high fees for crossing out of state

 

The $39 roundtrip price to AC is the same from Newark or Jersey City as it is from PABT.

 

A fare loophole on the 551: buy an Atlantic City to PHL rail ticket for $10 and use it on the bus. Cross-honored even though the bus is $6.50 more. Or, if you can afford the longer travel time, take PATCO to WRTC for the 551: $8.70 total one way.

[mfs NJT459]

NJT needs to have a through ticketing program between NEC, River LIne and ACL

 

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/press/atlantic_city/reaching-for-riders---nj-transit-hopes-to-extend/article_d03967e5-cc73-5004-a3a7-b9d5405bbce7.html

[qjtransitmaster]

NJT needs to have a through ticketing program between NEC, River LIne and ACL

 

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/press/atlantic_city/reaching-for-riders---nj-transit-hopes-to-extend/article_d03967e5-cc73-5004-a3a7-b9d5405bbce7.html

Why no sane person would do that well in NYC that is. But that would benefit those in say Mercer county and new Brunswick.  However with ridership on the Atlantic city line so low why don't they convert it to a light rail with the same vehicles that are used on the Riverline? Besides that couple in Levittown could always use the more frequent 551 or greyhound to Philly then take a 3 minute walk to market east station for the SEPTA Trenton line. Why even bother with that pathetic excuse of a rail line?more frequent options exist unless you live in Atlantic county or are going to intermittent points skipped by 551& greyhound.

[qjtransitmaster]

This is what NJT banks on.... For instance, NJT makes a killing w/ the #551.

I factor this into some of my NJT plans if you know what I mean.

[pjbr40]

that couple made an excuse  to get this story in the paper. if you got there with no trouble then you should be able to walk backward on the trail that got you to Bally. It not that difficult in AC. there are sign everywhere where thing are even the info board. Njt should combine the tickets into one or do a preprint of three tickets in advance at any TVM. They can reduce it to one if the people remember to punch the time stamp on their ticket but i don't think it necessary if you want to go to AC.  I agree with more train on the schedule to close the gap in waiting but they forgot one thing. Most of the line on ACL is one track and there are few wayside waiting where one train can bypass the opposite direction of the train travel.  To reduce maintenance cost they should reduced the train set and cut down the rail cars until the ridership get hard. 

 

I heard some Metro North cut there trainset by two coach so they can make more trains. 

[mfs NJT459]

Brand new station and we already have a broken down elevator   

 

Yet the track is finally elevated

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/broken-elevator-keeps-pennsauken-train-station-side-closed/article_18173d92-904f-11e3-8750-0019bb2963f4.html

[qjtransitmaster]

Pointless as long as the ACL schedule is poor still using 551 to camden.

[spikecat54]

hi..

 

does anyone have drawings of the new interlocking ( .s ).

 

thank you

 

steve

 

fdny

[spikecat54]

can anyone advise the exact location.or cross street locations..i might be driving over there.....what rr stations is this near..on the AC DIVISION.....

 

Steve

FDNY