Trainspotter Posted September 9, 2008 Share #1 Posted September 9, 2008 NYC Transit to test bilevel bus, would be fleet's first since '50s BY PETE DONOHUE DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER September 8th 2008 Smith for News Double-decker, which can hold 81 people, versus 62 for city’s largest bus now, is parked Monday on E. 26th St., where MTA CEO Elliot Sander introduced it. NYC Transit will put a double-decker bus on the road this week, a back-to-the-future move promising big savings for the agency - but little headroom for riders. For a 35-day trial, the city borrowed a Belgium-made Van Hool bilevel and will gauge how it handles city streets, required maintenance and the time needed to board and discharge passengers, officials said Monday. "This is not for show. This is not just to titillate the New York public," Metropolitan Transportation Authority CEO Elliot Sander said, standing next to a towering double-decker in Manhattan. "We really like this bus," he added. "There's a very real possibility, if it passes the tests ... that New Yorkers could well see this in the future." The agency will seek rider opinions, which likely will include notice of low ceilings. The first level measures 71 inches - 5 feet 11 inches - from floor to ceiling. The upper deck is just 67inches, or 5-feet-7. The average American man is 5-feet-9. Except for tourist buses, double-deckers haven't been a regular feature of the city streetscape since the early 1950s, when Dwight Eisenhower was President, gasoline was 20 cents a gallon and television shows were in black and white. A double-decker with 81 upholstered seats and tinted windows will start making runs on Thursday. The largest bus currently in service, the so-called accordion or articulated bus, has 62 seats. During the 35-day test, the double-decker is expected to be deployed on several routes, most likely including the x17 express between Manhattan and Staten Island, the M5 Limited and the M15, officials said. Greg Woods liked the look of things from the sidewalk on E.26th St., where officials unveiled the double-decker. "It's pretty nice," said Woods, 51, of Harlem. "I like it more than the regular buses. They better bring a couple of truckloads of them, the way gas prices are going." Public transit agencies use double-deckers in Paris, London and other cities around the world, but they are not widely used in the United States. Domestic interest is picking up because of high fuel costs, NYC Transit officials said. The former Fifth Ave. Coach company took its last double-decker off the streets in 1953, when operations were taken over by the MTA. City transit officials flirted with double-deckers in the late 1970s but, after just a few years, also took them off the streets. "Double-deckers carry double the riders on a standard city bus, so it makes sense to see how they do on city streets," Gene Russianoff of the Straphangers Campaign said. "But they should be aimed at increasing service, not to justify longer waiting times." DOUBLE-DECKER Length: 45 feet Width: 102 inches Height: 13 feet Number of seats: 81 Floor-to-ceiling height: 71 inches on first level, 67 inches on second Cost: $650,000 (diesel) ARTICULATED BUS Length: 60 feet Width: 102 inches Height: 12 to 12 1/2 feet Number of seats: 57 to 62 Floor-to-ceiling height: 86 inches on first level, 78 inches on second Cost: $600,000 (diesel) to $920,000 (hybrid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonOfAllBuses Posted September 9, 2008 Share #2 Posted September 9, 2008 I can't wait to ride it! I hope that the is smart and keeps these buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted September 9, 2008 Share #3 Posted September 9, 2008 Oh my god that thing is beautiful.:eek::eek::eek::eek: Keep! - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted September 9, 2008 Share #4 Posted September 9, 2008 I can't wait to ride it! I hope that the is smart and keeps these buses. I hope that the is smart and keeps them if the new bus works well in city conditions and it is practical. We wouldn't want them to purchase bad buses because they look nice now would we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novabus 5000 Posted September 9, 2008 Share #5 Posted September 9, 2008 OMG!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted September 9, 2008 Share #6 Posted September 9, 2008 That's one beautiful bus. I can't wait to ride it, if I'm lucky. I hope it's a huge success for NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted September 9, 2008 Share #7 Posted September 9, 2008 Yeah, me will be going after that thing very soon..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted September 9, 2008 Share #8 Posted September 9, 2008 The M15..... :B It's huntin' season fellas ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted September 9, 2008 Share #9 Posted September 9, 2008 LOL im gonna try and take a ride and sum pixs How many fleets are there on the M15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted September 10, 2008 Share #10 Posted September 10, 2008 LOL im gonna try and take a ride and sum pixs How many fleets are there on the M15? 2 artic and in a few weeks the vanhool. they only have one vanhool.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted September 10, 2008 Share #11 Posted September 10, 2008 2 artic and in a few weeks the vanhool. they only have one vanhool.............. ok thanks my mate =) And can you plz tell me which is which? DOUBLE-DECKER is the vanhool? And Artic is the long bus ___________________________ These buses should be placed as well on the Bx12 SBS , but may not play well on EL trains in the bronx and Manhattan, double decker mainly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted September 10, 2008 Share #12 Posted September 10, 2008 OK I got us a Vid: http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6375954 Jusr click on the vid from top, they show an ALMOST inside view Im in love with this bus LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armax1980 Posted September 10, 2008 Share #13 Posted September 10, 2008 Maybe they should make a double-decker artic!!!! But seriously, the double decker bus would cause some trouble with current bus depot since they wouldn't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainspotter Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share #14 Posted September 10, 2008 David Goldman for The New York Times Two bus maintainers, Floyd Codrington, left, and Anderson Belgrave, examined a television screen on the bus’s upper level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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