what is the difference between mta and nyctabus

[Tom Meadow]

I am curious to know what the difference is between the to agencies.

[MTA Orion Bus]

Great question! I think these past threads will help you:

 

http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/1610-difference-between-mta-bus-company-and-nyc-transit/

 

http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/22348-mta-bus-v-nyc-transit/

 

http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/26727-mta-bus-vs-new-york-city-transit/

 

(BTW, sorry if I missed seeing you last weekend. I still can't access my PMs)

[NewFlyer 230]

At this point there are only a few difference but I think pension and seniority is differences for the two agencies.

[TheNewYorkElevated]

At this point there are only a few difference but I think pension and seniority is differences for the two agencies.

Im'a give you a detailed explanation here.

 

MTA Bus is where most of the commuter bus operations are. By this, it means buses under this type of control have the ability to go out-of-borough, as well as maintain depots outside NYC as well (ex. Yonkers Depot ). Or, they can serve as commuter alternatives to and from Manhattan.

 

NYCT Bus is where buses under this type of control only serve the city. Depots are run by borough division (ex., Michael Quill Depot under the Manhattan division), and go to special locations (ex. Belmont Park on game days).

 

Hope that answers your question.

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

Im'a give you a detailed explanation here.

 

MTA Bus is where most of the commuter bus operations are. By this, it means buses under this type of control have the ability to go out-of-borough, as well as maintain depots outside NYC as well (ex. Yonkers Depot ). Or, they can serve as commuter alternatives to and from Manhattan.

 

NYCT Bus is where buses under this type of control only serve the city. Depots are run by borough division (ex., Michael Quill Depot under the Manhattan division), and go to special locations (ex. Belmont Park on game days).

 

Hope that answers your question.

Not exactly.

 

MTA Bus is composed of the former local and express routes in the city under the old PBL's, which were subsidized by the DOT.

 

NYCT routes are routes that the MTA itself owns and operate, both local and express. The S89 route owned by NYCT runs to NJ, as well as the "via NJ" staten island expres routes.

[East New York]

In addition to what's mentioned above, MTA Bus and NYCT Bus operate almost identical at this time. Customer service for both divisions is now operated by NYCTA. In 2017/2018 all common systems will merge, and they two divisions will share farebox equiptment, radio systems, and a brand new central command and dispatch center at East New York Depot, which will serve as Surface Transit Headquarters for NYCTA, MaBSTOA, and MTABC.

 

At that time MTABC will operate near identical to Manhattan and Bronx Operating Authority (MaBSTOA).

 

When MaBSTOA was created in 1940, it was identical in operations to what we now know as MTA Bus. The private bus lines that were taken over by MTA were all merged under MaBSTOA, and eventually the division was merged into NYCTA, yet still operates as a division of MTA and does not have civil service status as NYCTA does. MTAB will eventually be merged the same way for the most part.

[Rafa]

What is civil service status?

[NewFlyer 230]

Near the end of the merger other difference you see should be eliminated such as different shades of blue for schedules. The newer lollipop signs in will be put up for every MTA Bus route in Queens( hopefully ) and the MTA buses will say "New York City Bus" even though I also hear that all buses in the city might be simplified to "MTA Bus".

[Gotham Bus Co.]

In addition to what's mentioned above, MTA Bus and NYCT Bus operate almost identical at this time. Customer service for both divisions is now operated by NYCTA. In 2017/2018 all common systems will merge, and they two divisions will share farebox equiptment, radio systems, and a brand new central command and dispatch center at East New York Depot, which will serve as Surface Transit Headquarters for NYCTA, MaBSTOA, and MTABC.

 

At that time MTABC will operate near identical to Manhattan and Bronx Operating Authority (MaBSTOA).

 

When MaBSTOA was created in 1940, it was identical in operations to what we now know as MTA Bus. The private bus lines that were taken over by MTA were all merged under MaBSTOA, and eventually the division was merged into NYCTA, yet still operates as a division of MTA and does not have civil service status as NYCTA does. MTAB will eventually be merged the same way for the most part.

 

Correction...

 

- The companies taken over before 1962 (e.g. North Shore Bus Company, East Side Omnibus, Comprehensive Omnibus) became part of the NYC Board of Transportation at first and then NYCT in the 1950's.

 

- MaBSTOA was created in 1962, out of the ashes of the Fifth Avenue Coach Company. The "official" reason for keeping it separate was to allow for  some other private company to purchase its assets —of course, that never happened. The "unofficial" reason was to protect the jobs of Fifth Avenue Coach's employees, most of whom were illegal Irish immigrants who would not be able to work under civil service.

 

- MTA Bus was created to take over the remaining NYCDOT-subsidized private companies. Basically, Mayor Bloomberg fired the city's seven contractors and hired the MTA to replace them.

 

 

 

What is civil service status?

 

In its simplest form, "civil service" means being employed by a government agency. 

[MTAhopeful1]

Wrong post.