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Last Run World's Fair R33/R36 cars made their last run in revenue service on the morning of 11/3/2003, with cars (E 9564-9565-9309-9582-9583-9584-9585-9617-9616-9587-9586 W). Left Time sq at 10;30AM making Local stops to Willets Point Shea Stadium

Red=scrap
green= still around

 

R36WF 9582-3 freshly painted in Coney Island yard 8/19/2008

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Last Run World's Fair R33/R36 cars made their last run in revenue service on the morning of 11/3/2003, with cars (E 9564-9565-9309-9582-9583-9584-9585-9617-9616-9587-9586 W). Left Time sq at 10;30AM making Local stops to Willets Point Shea Stadium

 

Red=scrap

green= still around

 

R36WF 9582-3 freshly painted in Coney Island yard 8/19/2008

114_7710_zps4yqm0enr.jpg

How packed was the final train?

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Indeed I remember the R17's on the (5)<5> and the R21/22 on the (1) tho they were never Red.

I don't remember R17s much on the (5)<5> at all.  Those I remember at one point made up almost ALL of the entire fleet on the (4) and there were also such on the (6) and later the (3).  

 

The R21/22 I remember mainly on the (1) and (5)<5> and also to a lesser degree on the (2)(3)(4) and (6)

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I don't remember R17s much on the (5)<5> at all.  Those I remember at one point made up almost ALL of the entire fleet on the (4) and there were also such on the (6) and later the (3).  

 

The R21/22 I remember mainly on the (1) and (5)<5> and also to a lesser degree on the (2)(3)(4) and (6)

R17s had the circle windows right? This was late 80's 1987,88-ish.I rode them on (5) for sure. The (1) was my home line so I remember the r21/r22 forsure.  As for the 90's R26,28 and 29's on the (5) I remember the R30's as well.

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In the later 80's, they began switching stuff around more, but the round end door windows (both 15 and 17) were concentrated on the east side more, while 12/14 and the greater concentration of 21/22 and whatever WF 36's on the mainline was mostly on the west side. (17/21/22 could likely be found on any line, being the backbone of the IRT "mixed consists", though 21/22 were very rare on the (6), and I remember a time when just about anything could be found on the (1)).

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 I heard the R21/22 formed the backbone of the (1) and (3) at one point... It's a pity they didn't make it into the Redbird paint scheme, but I guess the TA just didn't feel like rebuilding carbon-steel single units and retrofitting them with A/C.  Oh well.

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I heard the R21/22 formed the backbone of the (1) and (3) at one point... It's a pity they didn't make it into the Redbird paint scheme, but I guess the TA just didn't feel like rebuilding carbon-steel single units and retrofitting them with A/C.  Oh well.

It mainly had to do with the fact that the R21/22's were introduced in the 1950's, and reached their life expectancy by the time the Rebird paint scheme was introduced.
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Not so.  The R26 cars were from 1959, and the R22s were from 1957.  The R26 were rebuilt and became Redbirds; they were configured in married pairs.  The R22s were single units, and it's a lot tougher to rebuild and retrofit a single unit with A/C than married pairs.  More complex, costly, and would most likely have made the cars too heavy.

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