bobtehpanda Posted April 7, 2016 Share #76 Posted April 7, 2016 Okay, it is like driving to newark penn station from hudson yards new york. But like i said, nj transits are really expensive, and some. nyc metrocards dont work on PATH. New Jersey can pay for its own crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted April 7, 2016 Share #77 Posted April 7, 2016 To Newark? Are you high? That's like a half-hour ride from the river alone! Just let PATH do what it really does well, that exact run! Haha.. way to kill a man's dream.. What's so crazy about the to Newark. From Flushing to Newark would be roughly a 20 mile run. Shorter then afew existing lines like ,, just asking why your thinking this would be out of the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share #78 Posted April 8, 2016 Haha.. way to kill a man's dream.. What's so crazy about the to Newark. From Flushing to Newark would be roughly a 20 mile run. Shorter then afew existing lines like ,, just asking why your thinking this would be out of the question?Yeah, thanks to you agreed. Even though PATH is existing to service Newark Penn Station, taking them to midtown, they also can have another choice to commute the cheapest ride to midtown, and some of others will enjoy a one seat ride to flushing, a possible way to visit queens, on the other hand, when they choose to commute path, they have to get out of that type of station, and i believe that they might pay another fare to ride the mta metro subway if they desired to go interborough besides manhattan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 8, 2016 Share #79 Posted April 8, 2016 Yeah, thanks to you agreed. Even though PATH is existing to service Newark Penn Station, taking them to midtown, they also can have another choice to commute the cheapest ride to midtown, and some of others will enjoy a one seat ride to flushing, a possible way to visit queens, on the other hand, when they choose to commute path, they have to get out of that type of station, and i believe that they might pay another fare to ride the mta metro subway if they desired to go interborough besides manhattan. I think PATH by its self is fine. All we need is fare intergration with SmartLink and/or NYCT takeover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share #80 Posted April 8, 2016 Haha.. way to kill a man's dream.. What's so crazy about the to Newark. From Flushing to Newark would be roughly a 20 mile run. Shorter then afew existing lines like ,, just asking why your thinking this would be out of the question?And also, path can let the customers transfer to the regular subway, only when the path train arrives at world trade center. If they unintentionally miss it, they might end up in the train, servicing other stations heading uptown, without a transfer, and it terminates at 33 street, that station doesnt have transfer to other subway too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share #81 Posted April 8, 2016 I think PATH by its self is fine. All we need is fare intergration with SmartLink and/or NYCT takeover.Ok. fair enough, but it takes little more time for MTA to code the SmarkLink card. If it is a success, then i will edit my subway map, cut the to frank r lautenberg station.Nevertheless, the only possibility we stand on, we are not really sure if the SmartLink card bought from the path station allows the commuters to access MTA subway. At this moment, i dont think the subway fare gate can recognize that metrocard, unless those gates are upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share #82 Posted April 8, 2016 I think PATH by its self is fine. All we need is fare intergration with SmartLink and/or NYCT takeover.The new fare gate in the subway stations, will be "Smart..." to "...Link" to SmartLink transit cards.But one more thing i didnt tell you about transfer length between World Trade Center path station to the subway, is really long. They have to take escalators, get outside, and walk somewhat a long way to the subway, to access other boroughs besides Manhattan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthe1train Posted April 8, 2016 Share #83 Posted April 8, 2016 The new fare gate in the subway stations, will be "Smart..." to "...Link" to SmartLink transit cards. But one more thing i didnt tell you about transfer length between World Trade Center path station to the subway, is really long. They have to take escalators, get outside, and walk somewhat a long way to the subway, to access other boroughs besides Manhattan. Once the Oculus and Cortlandt St on the are finished it will be much easier. No more going outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share #84 Posted April 8, 2016 Once the Oculus and Cortlandt St on the are finished it will be much easier. No more going outside. Thank you. Make sure it is connected to the PATH like you meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share #85 Posted April 8, 2016 Ok everyone, here is another map I fling. http://mapfling.com/q6jp35o It is about the revived Rockaway LIRR plus the extension to meet with the Queens Blvd Line. Balloon A - Liberty Avenue Balloon B - Atlantic Avenue Balloon C - Jamaica Avenue Balloon D - Myrtle Avenue - Parkside Balloon E - Between Metropolitan Avenue and Yellowstone Blvd Balloon F - Queens Blvd - Rego Park (Meeting the Queens Blvd track) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 8, 2016 Share #86 Posted April 8, 2016 Ok. fair enough, but it takes little more time for MTA to code the SmarkLink card. If it is a success, then i will edit my subway map, cut the to frank r lautenberg station. Nevertheless, the only possibility we stand on, we are not really sure if the SmartLink card bought from the path station allows the commuters to access MTA subway. At this moment, i dont think the subway fare gate can recognize that metrocard, unless those gates are upgraded. That's called fare integration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share #87 Posted April 8, 2016 Also, for new , operating via Long Island Expressway, between Springfield Blvd and Broad Street in Manhattan. http://mapfling.com/q2boek7 Balloon A - Essex Street (Existing station) Balloon B - Union Avenue (New Station, transferring to the Broadway station) Balloon C - Montrose Avenue - Bushwick (Transfer to ) Balloon D - Fresh Pond Road - 61 Street via Flushing Avenue Balloon E - Grand Avenue and 69 Street Balloon F - Queens-Midtown Expressway and 80 Street Balloon G - Queens Blvd (Transferring to Woodhaven Blvd station) Balloon H - 99 Street - LeFrak City Balloon I - Horace Harding Expressway and Main Street Balloon J - Kissena Blvd Balloon K - 164 Street Balloon L - 188 Street - Fresh Meadows Balloon M - Francis Lewis Blvd Balloon N - Springfield Blvd - Oakland Gardens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share #88 Posted April 8, 2016 Also, for new , operating via Long Island Expressway, between Springfield Blvd and Broad Street in Manhattan. http://mapfling.com/q2boek7 Balloon A - Essex Street (Existing station) Balloon B - Union Avenue (New Station, transferring to the Broadway station) Balloon C - Montrose Avenue - Bushwick (Transfer to ) Balloon D - Fresh Pond Road - 61 Street via Flushing Avenue Balloon E - Grand Avenue and 69 Street Balloon F - Queens-Midtown Expressway and 80 Street Balloon G - Queens Blvd (Transferring to Woodhaven Blvd station) Balloon H - 99 Street - LeFrak City Balloon I - Horace Harding Expressway and Main Street Balloon J - Kissena Blvd Balloon K - 164 Street Balloon L - 188 Street - Fresh Meadows Balloon M - Francis Lewis Blvd Balloon N - Springfield Blvd - Oakland Gardens For , http://mapfling.com/q5xmb2r Balloon A - 2nd Avenue - East Houston Street (Transfer to ) Balloon B - Bedford Avenue via Houston - South 4th Street tunnel Balloon C - Union Avenue (Transfer to Broadway Station) Balloon D - Flushing Avenue (Existing Station) Balloon E - Myrtle Avenue - Broadway (Existing Station) Balloon F - Wilson Avenue (New Station) Balloon G - Myrtle - Wyckoff Avenues (Existing Station) ...rest of stations to Metropolitan Avenue - Middle Village are existing, and to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted April 8, 2016 Share #89 Posted April 8, 2016 I think PATH by its self is fine. All we need is fare intergration with SmartLink and/or NYCT takeover. I can respect that Hoboken, Jersey City and Newark could use better integration to Manhattan. Are they really that different from a Brooklyn or Queens from a regional view? But better integration is a start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share #90 Posted April 8, 2016 That's called fare integration... Thank you so much. I learn something now. Fare integration means to merge the related transits into a company, so that every public transit riders will have more access such as to MTA subway and PATH with just a card. We hope the customers encounter no tweaks or filing complaints as they transfer between PATH and subway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 8, 2016 Share #91 Posted April 8, 2016 Thank you so much. I learn something now. Fare integration means to merge the related transits into a company, so that every public transit riders will have more access such as to MTA subway and PATH with just a card. We hope the customers encounter no tweaks or filing complaints as they transfer between PATH and subway. Yes, although you can have fare integration without merging companies. For example, the PBL's pre-MTA Bus charged the same fare and used the same card plus you had the same transfer privileges between a private and MTA route as you had between two MTA routes. A merger would be my second option where the PATH system becomes part of MTA New York City Subway. For the purposes of this post, I'll call it the P and it can use a shade of blue-green maybe the shade the London Underground uses for the Waterloo & City. You would have the same transfer privileges between the P and the M23 at 23 Street as you would the and the M23. You could even reconfigure fare control to put the P and the in the same fare control. (The transfer between the and the P would probably require an out of system connection similar to a bus to subway transfer ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share #92 Posted April 9, 2016 Yes, although you can have fare integration without merging companies. For example, the PBL's pre-MTA Bus charged the same fare and used the same card plus you had the same transfer privileges between a private and MTA route as you had between two MTA routes. A merger would be my second option where the PATH system becomes part of MTA New York City Subway. For the purposes of this post, I'll call it the P and it can use a shade of blue-green maybe the shade the London Underground uses for the Waterloo & City. You would have the same transfer privileges between the P and the M23 at 23 Street as you would the and the M23. You could even reconfigure fare control to put the P and the in the same fare control. (The transfer between the and the P would probably require an out of system connection similar to a bus to subway transfer ) Excellent. Thats what we and our customers expecting that future fleet for Path. Therefore we maintain them to feel comfortable traveling especially, make this service attractive to a crowd of people. So if the commuters living in new jersey are really desperate to travel to midtown manhattan, each train will have 12 cars,require to widen the stations. Of the train rate, at least 12 tph during peak hours, weekday off peak hour will be 10, weeknights 4, and weekends 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted April 14, 2016 Author Share #93 Posted April 14, 2016 Also, today i got an idea. How about on my proposal, service a new branch of to queens? We going to need at least a subway line to cross RFK bridge, operate to Flushing Corona Park, via 125 Street crosstown from broadway, via RFK bridge, via Astoria Blvd, via 23rd Av for 82 St, a walking distance to La Guardia airport Marine terminal, via Ditmars Blvd after slighting right straight from 23rd Av, and via 111 Street for a transfer to local, then train will terminate at 111 St and Corona Av, since there are no transits except at Roosevelt Av. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted April 14, 2016 Share #94 Posted April 14, 2016 Also, today i got an idea. How about on my proposal, service a new branch of to queens? We going to need at least a subway line to cross RFK bridge, operate to Flushing Corona Park, via 125 Street crosstown from broadway, via RFK bridge, via Astoria Blvd, via 23rd Av for 82 St, a walking distance to La Guardia airport Marine terminal, via Ditmars Blvd after slighting right straight from 23rd Av, and via 111 Street for a transfer to local, then train will terminate at 111 St and Corona Av, since there are no transits except at Roosevelt Av. No additional comments needed for this horrible proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted April 14, 2016 Author Share #95 Posted April 14, 2016 No additional comments needed for this horrible proposal. Then, even though you think this is a really horrible idea to generate a new branch, then what subway line do you think will be appropiate to travel to queens straight from 125 Street? So the commuter wont have to transfer or pay another fare to ride m60 SBS, to save more space and seats for people going to airport especially during peak hours, and they wont have to travel further down to 63 Street , or 59 street , the easier transfer. I know this bus comes around 7 to 10 minutes apart, but i believe that some individuals might felt hurried that they somehow will experience some delays, and their big luggage they carry wont fit through crowds. So at least one subway line taking RFK bridge or tunnel from 125 Street Harlem to queens will categorize the MTA customers to prevent from slowing down the m60 SBS bus riders that are going to airport to catch their plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted April 14, 2016 Share #96 Posted April 14, 2016 Then, even though you think this is a really horrible idea to generate a new branch, then what subway line do you think will be appropiate to travel to queens straight from 125 Street? So the commuter wont have to transfer or pay another fare to ride m60 SBS, to save more space and seats for people going to airport especially during peak hours, and they wont have to travel further down to 63 Street , or 59 street , the easier transfer. I know this bus comes around 7 to 10 minutes apart, but i believe that some individuals might felt hurried that they somehow will experience some delays, and their big luggage they carry wont fit through crowds. So at least one subway line taking RFK bridge or tunnel from 125 Street Harlem to queens will categorize the MTA customers to prevent from slowing down the m60 SBS bus riders that are going to airport to catch their plane. Firstly, I don't think that a line from Queens to 125th Street is a priority. Secondly, it makes no sense to make it a branch of the IRT. Let alone the as you would have to have an elevated line running down 125th Street, and you would have to demolish the existing 125th Street station. It may look nice on paper, but you can't just draw lines on a map and say that it is a good route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted April 14, 2016 Share #97 Posted April 14, 2016 No additional comments needed for this horrible proposal. Lmfaoooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share #98 Posted May 2, 2016 Anyway, my another proposal, extend the Franklin Shuttle to Brighton Beach, and connect via the , and change it to green . There will be more services down the Brighton line. Also, the customers living somewhere near the Brighton line can go to queens without entering Manhattan, just like driving in the I-278 from Brooklyn straight away to Queens. For the , extend northbound to Riverdale - 261 Street. This proposal will bring more customers to Manhattan from the dense area of the Bronx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenvinny54 Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share #99 Posted May 2, 2016 Also, both extend the and proposed green to Forest Hills, only for late night service, since there will be no and proposed cyan trains running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted May 2, 2016 Share #100 Posted May 2, 2016 Also, both extend the and proposed green to Forest Hills, only for late night service, since there will be no and proposed cyan trains running. There is a major flaw with your having the express and the local. Going east, only 53rd Street has direct access to the express tracks, and only 60th Street/Crosstown have direct access to the local tracks. It would be a mess to have the and both switching. This would reduce the (E)'s capacity significantly. Just have the go to Laurelton and the to the Rockaways. Also, get rid of the extension to Sunrise and the extension to Newark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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