Deucey Posted January 23, 2017 Share #1 Posted January 23, 2017 Is there a reason trains on the 7th Av Line are identified as instead of trains (i.e. is the service change I'd determined immediately before 149th/Concourse; labor rules, auditing/accounting, etc)? I ask bc the I picked up at 28th/7th has '7th Av Express' in its destination display, which means this trip was likely anticipated in the Bronx (unless the destination display can be changed mid-trip).. So why not call it a ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayParkwayW Posted January 23, 2017 Share #2 Posted January 23, 2017 The train may have originated at Dyre Avenue, or maybe the train crew just wants to get the message out there that some trains will run via the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTransitMan4608 Posted January 24, 2017 Share #3 Posted January 24, 2017 A few days ago (Thursday I believe), I saw quite a few trains going up 7th Ave. They remain as trains because when they aren't going to Nereid (which is normally during the PM rush), they're going to Eastchester-Dyre. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted January 24, 2017 Share #4 Posted January 24, 2017 A few days ago (Thursday I believe), I saw quite a few trains going up 7th Ave. They remain as trains because when they aren't going to Nereid (which is normally during the PM rush), they're going to Eastchester-Dyre. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app I got a via 7th Ave that same day and it was signed for Nereid. Usually when any train gets rerouted, it keeps its original label. This is regardless of whether it is express via local or vice versa, or a diversion from the usual line. The real question is when the is cut back to Rector/SF during GOs and the takes its place, what is the rationale behind internally designating as and as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted January 24, 2017 Share #5 Posted January 24, 2017 The real question is when the is cut back to Rector/SF during GOs and the takes its place, what is the rationale behind internally designating as and as It's so they don't need to pay for additional crews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIRR4 Posted January 24, 2017 Share #6 Posted January 24, 2017 Is there a reason trains on the 7th Av Line are identified as instead of trains (i.e. is the service change I'd determined immediately before 149th/Concourse; labor rules, auditing/accounting, etc)? I ask bc the I picked up at 28th/7th has '7th Av Express' in its destination display, which means this trip was likely anticipated in the Bronx (unless the destination display can be changed mid-trip).. So why not call it a ? i find this confusing as well...they should try to update the signs to match what route is running on, even if they have to change it in the middle of a trip. To look at the subway map and there's no 5 on there, when one shows up at the station, it's very confusing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted January 24, 2017 It's so they don't need to pay for additional crews. If the is replacing the to Flatbush, don't the crews that would normally operate the full-length on weekends get reassigned to the extended-length ? Or are you saying that assigned route dictates crew pay rate (ie full-length crews get paid differently than crews on the truncated )? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 24, 2017 Share #8 Posted January 24, 2017 To answer the question, the trains keep their designations as s and s even when they run on the Lexington Ave or 7th Avenue lines respectively to actually reduce passenger confusion. I know, it sounds counter-intuitive as that is not the normal route for either line in Manhattan, but in Brooklyn and the Bronx, where the lines run different routes, more so for the latter, it makes more sense. How often does the run to Dyre Av in normal service or the runs local along Eastern Pkwy? It reduces the number of people asking where the train is going. Also, changing the train designation mid-route confuses riders on board the train. Besides, the / switcheroo occurs often enough that most riders know where the train is going anyhow. It's only at Nevins St or 149 St-Grand Concourse that the majority of the confusion occurs when the lines are rerouted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 24, 2017 Share #9 Posted January 24, 2017 To answer the question, the trains keep their designations as s and s even when they run on the Lexington Ave or 7th Avenue lines respectively to actually reduce passenger confusion. I know, it sounds counter-intuitive as that is not the normal route for either line in Manhattan, but in Brooklyn and the Bronx, where the lines run different routes, more so for the latter, it makes more sense. How often does the run to Dyre Av in normal service or the runs local along Eastern Pkwy? It reduces the number of people asking where the train is going. Also, changing the train designation mid-route confuses riders on board the train. Besides, the / switcheroo occurs often enough that most riders know where the train is going anyhow. It's only at Nevins St or 149 St-Grand Concourse that the majority of the confusion occurs when the lines are rerouted. Actually that's incorrect. A large number of Manhattan passengers look confused too, and so they don't board, which can mean unbalanced loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted January 24, 2017 To answer the question, the trains keep their designations as s and s even when they run on the Lexington Ave or 7th Avenue lines respectively to actually reduce passenger confusion. I know, it sounds counter-intuitive as that is not the normal route for either line in Manhattan, but in Brooklyn and the Bronx, where the lines run different routes, more so for the latter, it makes more sense. How often does the run to Dyre Av in normal service or the runs local along Eastern Pkwy? It reduces the number of people asking where the train is going. Also, changing the train designation mid-route confuses riders on board the train. Besides, the / switcheroo occurs often enough that most riders know where the train is going anyhow. It's only at Nevins St or 149 St-Grand Concourse that the majority of the confusion occurs when the lines are rerouted. IIRC, aren't some of these reroutes scheduled and not spontaneous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted January 24, 2017 Share #11 Posted January 24, 2017 IIRC, aren't some of these reroutes scheduled and not spontaneous?They aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxBombers Posted January 25, 2017 Share #12 Posted January 25, 2017 IIRC, aren't some of these reroutes scheduled and not spontaneous? They aren't scheduled. They only occur when something is wrong with the Lexington or the 7th Avenue line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juelz4309 Posted January 25, 2017 Share #13 Posted January 25, 2017 I still dont get how life long new yorkers dont get how our subways run...When I see the on 7th...I treat it as the vice versa with the on Lex....The Tracks themselves dont change! As someone pointed out this happens sooo frequently we shud be immune to it! Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted January 25, 2017 Share #14 Posted January 25, 2017 You have some of those "life long" New Yorkers that rarely take the subway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 25, 2017 Share #15 Posted January 25, 2017 I still dont get how life long new yorkers dont get how our subways run...When I see the on 7th...I treat it as the vice versa with the on Lex....The Tracks themselves dont change! As someone pointed out this happens sooo frequently we shud be immune to it! Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Because some either take cabs everywhere or take the local bus. My boss is like that. She doesn't like taking the subway because of the stairs and she takes the local bus to the office. Otherwise, she gets the car out of the garage and drives to our other offices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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