Bill de Blasio Will Push for Tax on Wealthy to Fix Subway

[Mtatransit]

I do not support giving anyone special treatment. If we're gonna do socialism aleast do it where EVERYONE is equal not say screw rich people, and tax them while giving them zero benefits. Things like free college are primarily paid for by taxpayer, shouldn't all taxpayer get the same treatment? Bill DeBlasio is basically taking money from the rich to give it to the "low income" which is questionable at best, while giving the wealthy none of the benefit. I would support it if it hold the fare for everyone, including the wealthy

[Via Garibaldi 8]

250 Million vs 1.5 Trillion GDP (GMP)?

I don't care about GDP, as it really has no bearing on this discussion. I care about the idea of giving an agency $250 million annually for a program that is shaky at best and a waste of taxpayer money, not to mention the (MTA)'s history of mismanaging funds. Does this put a halt to the need for the to raise the fares every two years? Will we really see improvements in the system and if so how fast?  These are the sorts of questions that I have as a commuter and a tax payer. Will my express bus finally show up on time during the commute home or will I still be waiting 15 - 20 minutes for a late bus?  If $250 could improve service in some way, I would much rather it be used to do so.  

[RailRunRob]

:lol:I don't care about GDP, as it really has no bearing on this discussion. I care about the idea of giving an agency $250 million annually for a program that is shaky at best and a waste of taxpayer money, not to mention the (MTA)'s history of mismanaging funds. Does this put a halt to the need for the   to raise the fares every two years? Will we really see improvements in the system and if so how fast?  These are the sorts of questions that I have as a commuter and a tax payer. Will my express bus finally show up on time during the commute home or will I still be waiting 15 - 20 minutes for a late bus?  If $250 could improve service in some way, I would much rather it be used to do so.  

Listen just relax and take the Millionaire handout 75% of it is going to Bus and Train improvements anyway. Let the folks have their half fare cards. It's not coming out of your pockets just a case of more fortunate taxpayers helping the less fortunate let's not get greedy.  Honestly, don't think the bro's downtown will miss it. the Dow's up fiscal years coming to a end.. VG just take the handout don't over think it. They'll get your bus back on point. 

[Mtatransit]

Listen just relax and take the Millionaire handout 75% of it is going to Bus and Train improvements anyway. Let the folks have their half fare cards. It's not coming out of your pockets just a case of more fortunate taxpayers helping the less fortunate let's not get greedy. Honestly, don't think the bro's downtown will miss it. the Dow's up fiscal years coming to a end.. VG just take the handout don't over think it. They'll get your bus back on point.

I personally think it's not fair, a lot of middle class people save money so they could live a decent life, won't be able to qualify for reduced fare MetroCard while supposedly some lower income guy(with smartphone and Jordan's) and mismanage their own budgets deserve to get a break?

[Via Garibaldi 8]

I personally think it's not fair, a lot of middle class people save money so they could live a decent life, won't be able to qualify for reduced fare MetroCard while supposedly some lower income guy(with smartphone and Jordan's) and mismanage their own budgets deserve to get a break?

That's exactly my point.  I think it sends the wrong message and it exacerbates an already bad problem. We have a housing crisis that worsens by the day in part because of the idiotic policy on the books that says we MUST provide housing on taxpayers dime for anyone that steps foot here, so now you have all of these people coming here from God knows where for free shelter, and now this.  It puts a strain on City resources unnecessarily.

[RailRunRob]

I personally think it's not fair, a lot of middle class people save money so they could live a decent life, won't be able to qualify for reduced fare MetroCard while supposedly some lower income guy(with smartphone and Jordan's) and mismanage their own budgets deserve to get a break?

Everyone keeps talking about this archetype. I see teens and young 20's that fit this description. Where do you interact with these types of people? What's the eligibility process were talking as if you just get a line and they give you one?   

That's exactly my point.  I think it sends the wrong message and it exacerbates an already bad problem. We have a housing crisis that worsens by the day in part because of the idiotic policy on the books that says we MUST provide housing on taxpayers dime for anyone that steps foot here, so now you have all of these people coming here from God knows where for free shelter, and now this.  It puts a strain on City resources unnecessarily.

How do know these people are lower income? Do you ask? or are you just going off looks?

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Everyone keeps talking about this archetype. I see teens and young 20's that fit this description. Where do you interact with these types of people? What's the eligibility process were talking as if you just get a line and they give you one?   

How do know these people are lower income? Do you ask? or are you just going off looks?

The kids have parents that game the system.  That's what we're all talking about.  You can't possibly be that sheltered.  I've seen it quite a bit. You walk through certain neighborhoods, and these teens are wearing more expensive clothing than you are, and you say to yourself, if these people are really poor, then they shouldn't be walking around with such items.  I don't care who wears what, but when you're getting handouts that changes things completely.  It sends the message of hey, middle class people and other professionals busting their @sses to make a way for themselves are having their tax dollars go to individuals who claim they need a helping hand, but are living larger than people that that are supporting them by way of handouts.  I don't know if Whole Foods takes food stamps or not now, but it's an example of what I'm talking about.  If you're on food stamps, you should not be shopping at such a high-end supermarket on someone else's dime, but yet this appears to be happening.  I shop there because I can afford to and use my own money that I make, but should some other person be able to on someone else's dime? Don't agree with it.

[Interested Rider]

There comes a time when you just say the it is time to chill and after reading the comments posted on this thread since it started, my time has started right now.. As one who spent 30+ plus years in government, I can attest that there is fraud and waste throughout all agencies and it is done by all groups, it is like it is a given. The disability problem with the police department, I worked in the top disability facility in my agency; the complaints about welfare fraud, look up Kiryas Joel and I can go on and on with more war or horror stories. The question remains where is the mayor going to get the money. I don't care about anything else for the transit system is the lifeblood of this city and it is falling apart quickly.   

So keep writing as I have a  yearly class that I have to take today (Monday) and Tuesday I will (hopefully) be doing another one of my three times a year double red cell donation so I will be off for a couple of days, chilling out away from the forum. . 

[RailRunRob]

The kids have parents that game the system.  That's what we're all talking about.  You can't possibly be that sheltered.  I've seen it quite a bit. You walk through certain neighborhoods, and these teens are wearing more expensive clothing than you are, and you say to yourself, if these people are really poor, then they shouldn't be walking around with such items.  I don't care who wears what, but when you're getting handouts that changes things completely.  It sends the message of hey, middle class people and other professionals busting their @sses to make a way for themselves are having their tax dollars go to individuals who claim they need a helping hand, but are living larger than people that that are supporting them by way of handouts.  I don't know if Whole Foods takes food stamps or not now, but it's an example of what I'm talking about.  If you're on food stamps, you should not be shopping at such a high-end supermarket on someone else's dime, but yet this appears to be happening.  I shop there because I can afford to and use my own money that I make, but should some other person be able to on someone else's dime? Don't agree with it.

I guess it's a matter of perspective. So you mean you can walk through a neighborhood and automatically know who's improvised based on style of dress because you feel you should have it because some how you earned it? VG stop acting as if somehow this is taking opportunities or food out of your mouth. I gone places some in the heartland people bragging about being on public and disability to New York standards they don't look the part. I seen working people with jobs on Food stamps tax payers just hardworking people trying to make ends meet. That's why the generalizations brother me. Grouping things we don't understand together I can't sit by idle on that one.

There comes a time when you just say the it is time to chill and after reading the comments posted on this thread since it started, my time has started right now.. As one who spent 30+ plus years in government, I can attest that there is fraud and waste throughout all agencies and it is done by all groups, it is like it is a given. The disability problem with the police department, I worked in the top disability facility in my agency; the complaints about welfare fraud, look up Kiryas Joel and I can go on and on with more war or horror stories. The question remains where is the mayor going to get the money. I don't care about anything else for the transit system is the lifeblood of this city and it is falling apart quickly.   

So keep writing as I have a  yearly class that I have to take today (Monday) and Tuesday I will (hopefully) be doing another one of my three times a year double red cell donation so I will be off for a couple of days, chilling out away from the forum. . 

Indeed all groups all backgrounds and all classes try to game the system. I do agree the subway is the lifeblood of the City that's the bottomline.

[Deucey]

The mayor (and many of his cohorts in the political arena) will never agree to cutting programs as they do not want to cause problems for their base who are dependent on all this money being thrown around for nothing and paid for the gainfully (unfortunately) employed who are the ones paying the taxes for these unnecessary programs that keep their minions quiet...

You do know that of the poor people who receive what you call handouts, 80% of them don't vote, right?

 

And that while you demonize those poor, NYS and NYC through development corps, tax abatements and etcetera, provide h̶a̶n̶d̶o̶u̶t̶s̶ subsidies to businesses that keep our taxes high and public coffers depleted?

 

Government money goes to everyone but people who actually vote and are middle class.

I agree to taxing take out and beverages only because these items often end up on MTA property as trash between the tracks.

I'll be disappointed if they did enact a tax and used it solely to pay environmental services staffs.

[BreeddekalbL]

The tax on soda should be illegal plus i have a feeling that cuomo will laugh this tax proposal out of the room unless they intensely negotiate this

[Via Garibaldi 8]

I guess it's a matter of perspective. So you mean you can walk through a neighborhood and automatically know who's improvised based on style of dress because you feel you should have it because some how you earned it? VG stop acting as if somehow this is taking opportunities or food out of your mouth. I gone places some in the heartland people bragging about being on public and disability to New York standards they don't look the part. I seen working people with jobs on Food stamps tax payers just hardworking people trying to make ends meet. That's why the generalizations brother me. Grouping things we don't understand together I can't sit by idle on that one.

If you're living in public housing it's safe to say you're being subsidized. Fraud happens across all spectrums. I knew of one guy who would pretend to be homeless. Collected a check each month and never worked aside from sitting in front of banks panhandling. Stop acting like it's so difficult to figure out because it really isn't. Either you're working to have such things, your parents are loaded, or you parents are gaming the system.

[RailRunRob]

If you're living in public housing it's safe to say you're being subsidized. Fraud happens across all spectrums. I knew of one guy who would pretend to be homeless. Collected a check each month and never worked aside from sitting in front of banks panhandling. Stop acting like it's so difficult to figure out because it really isn't. Either you're working to have such things, your parents are loaded, or you parents are gaming the system.

Again I’m not saying there aren’t people gaming the system. What I’m saying is things aren’t so cut dry. Your painting to broad of a stroke. Stop assuming negative intent and some how someone’s taking something from you. This tax if it goes through aren’t you kinda getting a handout from folks making more then you? I’m sure a good amount that don’t even ride public transport. Why couldn’t they use the same argument to say why should I pay for buses and trains I don’t use why on my dime? It’s levels and perspectives to this.

 

 

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[Mtatransit]

Again I’m not saying there aren’t people gaming the system. What I’m saying is things aren’t so cut dry. Your painting to broad of a stroke. Stop assuming negative intent and some how someone’s taking something from you. This tax if it goes through aren’t you kinda getting a handout from folks making more then you? I’m sure a good amount that don’t even ride public transport. Why couldn’t they use the same argument to say why should I pay for buses and trains I don’t use why on my dime? It’s levels and perspectives to this.

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Well my point was that if we all are the taxpayers, and deblasio is asking for rich to pay more, shouldn't all the taxpayers benefit? Especially the middle class who is to rich to qualify for anything and too poor to pay directly out of pocket for everything. My point is if your gonna raise tax for one group of people, ensure that EVERYONE could benefits including those that pay more. Better bus and subway everyone will benefit, low income Metrocard not so much

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Again I’m not saying there aren’t people gaming the system. What I’m saying is things aren’t so cut dry. Your painting to broad of a stroke. Stop assuming negative intent and some how someone’s taking something from you. This tax if it goes through aren’t you kinda getting a handout from folks making more then you? I’m sure a good amount that don’t even ride public transport. Why couldn’t they use the same argument to say why should I pay for buses and trains I don’t use why on my dime? It’s levels and perspectives to this.

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LOL I'd like to not assume negative intent, but what I see everyday paints a very vivid picture. I see people playing the game every day. I've seen one Asian lady that panhandles on the same corner on certain days. I've seen a white guy all around Midtown with his usual routine of trying to get back home sign with his head buried as if he's so destitute. I constantly see people trying to get over. That doesn't include the money requests I receive from those that are so destitute. Everyone has their hands out these days and many of them are scammers. It's unfortunate because those who are genuinely in need get mixed in as well.

[RailRunRob]

Well my point was that if we all are the taxpayers, and deblasio is asking for rich to pay more, shouldn't all the taxpayers benefit? Especially the middle class who is to rich to qualify for anything and too poor to pay directly out of pocket for everything. My point is if your gonna raise tax for one group of people, ensure that EVERYONE could benefits including those that pay more. Better bus and subway everyone will benefit, low income Metrocard not so much

Its not so cut dry what exactly is low income 45k-47k a year or less? So technically a lot of lower income NewYorkers pay taxes as well. You have to leave that door open for the people below the line to move into the middle class as well. Tax is relative okay a person is paying less into the system but it doesn’t hurt any less 15% is 15%. 75% of funding seems to be going directly to the system. That 25% for the possible cards if I’m paying half for monthly I’m still paying something it’s not a free ride that’s what $55? This person can get to work and contribute economically. I don’t understand the logic of everyone having there hand out. Low income in places like NY and SF are more than well into the middle class in most parts of the country. What only 9% of the US earn over 100K a year? I can name at least 25 people directly that clear that easy more the 10 the 250k mark point is we live in a bubble. Can’t get into the laissez-faire frame of mind there’d be no middle-class maybe that’s what’s killing it now. That and technology (Shurgs)I’d still like to know where these Jordan wearing men are? Kinda like the boogie man now lol!

 

 

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[RailRunRob]

LOL I'd like to not assume negative intent, but what I see everyday paints a very vivid picture. I see people playing the game every day. I've seen one Asian lady that panhandles on the same corner on certain days. I've seen a white guy all around Midtown with his usual routine of trying to get back home sign with his head buried as if he's so destitute. I constantly see people trying to get over. That doesn't include the money requests I receive from those that are so destitute. Everyone has their hands out these days and many of them are scammers. It's unfortunate because those who are genuinely in need get mixed in as well.

That’s the issues Humans point of views tend to be skewed positioned from there perspective. And there’s nothing wrong with that but you have to submit to the fact that others might have a different view or perspective. At that point who’s right and who’s wrong and what determines that? I honestly don’t see that. I see a lot people that want opportunities and don’t necessarily know how to find it. A lot of hustle going on a every level. But that’s the hustle and bustle of the Big Apple always has been.People trying to find a way. Yeah there are the creeps and people trying to get over it’s a small percentage most people I come in contact with are open to different way if presented with the option. The Jordan and phone persona I hardly see that with anyone over 25. I mean really a $150 pair of shoes Guaranteed if I came to that kid and showed he or she how to purchase stocks via a app like robin hood and how to invest they’d take the information. They know what they know. It’s not like there buying a submariner Rolex and what iPhones are $14 a month. Again you I both receive handouts whether we like to admit it or not. Perks of living in a great society and tax is your rent.

 

 

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[Via Garibaldi 8]

That’s the issues Humans point of views tend to be skewed positioned from there perspective. And there’s nothing wrong with that but you have to submit to the fact that others might have a different view or perspective. At that point who’s right and who’s wrong and what determines that? I honestly don’t see that. I see a lot people that want opportunities and don’t necessarily know how to find it. A lot of hustle going on a every level. But that’s the hustle and bustle of the Big Apple always has been.People trying to find a way. Yeah there are the creeps and people trying to get over it’s a small percentage most people I come in contact with are open to different way if presented with the option. The Jordan and phone persona I hardly see that with anyone over 25. I mean really a $150 pair of shoes Guaranteed if I came to that kid and showed he or she how to purchase stocks via a app like robin hood and how to invest they’d take the information. They know what they know. It’s not like there buying a submariner Rolex and what iPhones are $14 a month. Again you I both receive handouts whether we like to admit it or not. Perks of living in a great society and tax is your rent.

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I'd say the same thing too if I was surrounded by a bunch of engineers. lol You live in a small bubble my friend. I'm all around the city in the poorest areas and the richest ones and there are people playing games all over the place every day. In fact I see it so much that I totally phase it out now as part of the routine. I'm glad you have so much trust in mankind but I got over that a long time ago.

[RailRunRob]

I'd say the same thing too if I was surrounded by a bunch of engineers. lol You live in a small bubble my friend. I'm all around the city in the poorest areas and the richest ones and there are people playing games all over the place every day. In fact I see it so much that I totally phase it out now as part of the routine. I'm glad you have so much trust in mankind but I got over that a long time ago.

I’ve been fortunate to have the ability to travel and engage people from of all walks to life. Especially the last five in dealing with Software and UX it’s your job to talk and ask questions and engage . I guess when you look at it all from the big picture this Country was founded on games,overvaluation and selling dream’s I mean the dollar is based on nothing and yet people kill there self’s to obtain it. I guess our story is same different point of view. Sorry you feel that way about humanity hopefully your faith is restored by a-few chance encounters. Bottom line is without capital and power to back our views were leaves in the wind buddy. Just opinions and stories from one the 8.5 that inhabit the place. Like him or not let’s see what the Mayor does power lies with the elected one. I think everyone understands The importance of transportation in this climate. I’m a few days from submitting for the genius challenge here’s to even the slightest possibility of making things better.

 

 

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[Via Garibaldi 8]

I’ve been fortunate to have the ability to travel and engage people from of all walks to life. Especially the last five in dealing with Software and UX it’s your job to talk and ask questions and engage . I guess when you look at it all from the big picture this Country was founded on games,overvaluation and selling dream’s I mean the dollar is based on nothing and yet people kill there self’s to obtain it. I guess our story is same different point of view. Sorry you feel that way about humanity hopefully your faith is restored by a-few chance encounters. Bottom line is without capital and power to back our views were leaves in the wind buddy. Just opinions and stories from one the 8.5 that inhabit the place. Like him or not let’s see what the Mayor does power lies with the elected one. I think everyone understands The importance of transportation in this climate. I’m a few days from submitting for the genius challenge here’s to even the slightest possibility of making things better.

 

 

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Lord knows I hope I don't have to attend that meeting. 

[checkmatechamp13]

We now have a $15 minimum wage (for example) being phased in that has shown to be a job destroyer of the worst kind (look at what is going in Seattle),which will cause some industries to automate (there goes more jobs) and a plethora of other programs that the mayor and  his surrogates on the City Council have pushed as necessary when they are not at all. 

 

Correction. The $15 minimum wage plan was passed by Cuomo, not DeBlasio. Also, it's being phased in at a fairly reasonable pace: It won't actually be $15 until 2019 for large businesses, and 2020 for small businesses (technically, it will take effect on New Year's Eve of the year before). 

 

Oh please. You don't need to do a study to see that paying low-skilled people $15 an hour to flip a burger is a job killer. These big corporations are already adjusting and will be phasing out some of those jobs very soon via automation, so people like you will have to compete for the already scarce summer jobs that should be worked by youth, but instead are being worked by grown-ups trying to support their families. The whole thing is warped. These people could never afford to live here and this administration is trying to create the privilege for them to do so. Listen, there are cheaper places to live. If they can't afford NYC, then move elsewhere. These same people will continue to collect whatever benefits they can because the $15 an hour still won't be enough. That's basically $31,200 a year, assuming they even work or are paid 40 hours a week for 52 weeks. That's nothing. You can't afford any apartment with that and you'd be lucky to even get a room to share with roommates, so while this may seem great, it still does NOTHING but inflate wages for jobs that aren't worth a $15/hr hourly wage.

 

Except if they're earning the higher minimum wage, sometimes that pushes them past some income limits required to qualify for some programs. For some of those programs, the limit is something like $10,000 - $14,000.

 

Also, you're assuming that those people are living by themselves. One person working full-time at minimum wage might be in the $30,000/year range, but a married couple earning minimum wage is in the $60,000/year range (as opposed to the $36,000/year range when the minimum wage was $9/hour). 

 

[CenSin]

So it seems like we have two arguments here:

• The amount of poor people using the system correlates with the quality of life issues (panhandling, litter, graffiti, skells, etc.), and they are probably the cause so they should be discouraged from sharing in the system.
• All poor people shouldn’t be represented by the very few bad ones; most of them are good people who have fallen on hard times or had an unfair opportunity at life and should be given a helping hand.

The wildcard here is whether poor people are really the scum that the middle class and wealthy make them out to be. It’s okay to have preconceived notions (and I argue that many stereotypes have a kernel of truth to them), but at some point it’s prudent to make an effort to discover the facts of the matter.

 

Personally, I’m in the camp that claims poorer people have worse manners and are a liability to public order. Among many assumptions I make (none verified):

• They are the reason why public bathrooms have had to close due to people using them to sell drugs, piss on the toilet seat, leave feces on the bathroom floor, and vandalize toilet paper dispensers.
• They are the ones that leave sunflower shells, Mcdonald’s burger wrappers (because classier folks have something better to dine on), and empty soda cans (bought with food stamps) under the subway seats.
• They are the most likely to jump the turnstile — a gateway crime that leads to other criminal behavior (the same way alcohol and cigarettes lead to other drugs and substance abuse).

If course, for all of these points, there are other demographics to consider for likelihood of committing such disorder. Un-Americanized elderly Chinese, for example, are notorious for clipping their nails on trains and leaving the clippings all over the train floor; it’s not racism, but a fact that they carry that behavior over from China.

 

I had been discussing this with a friend who comes from a much different background than I (although I suspect we have much more in common that either of us admit). I suggested we do a survey of the riding public to find out more about their background. A properly constructed survey should clear up a lot of the assumptions that mar every discussion.

[RailRunRob]

So it seems like we have two arguments here:

• The amount of poor people using the system correlates with the quality of life issues (panhandling, litter, graffiti, skells, etc.), and they are probably the cause so they should be discouraged from sharing in the system.
• All poor people shouldn’t be represented by the very few bad ones; most of them are good people who have fallen on hard times or had an unfair opportunity at life and should be given a helping hand.

The wildcard here is whether poor people are really the scum that the middle class and wealthy make them out to be. It’s okay to have preconceived notions (and I argue that many stereotypes have a kernel of truth to them), but at some point it’s prudent to make an effort to discover the facts of the matter.

 

Personally, I’m in the camp that claims poorer people have worse manners and are a liability to public order. Among many assumptions I make (none verified):

• They are the reason why public bathrooms have had to close due to people using them to sell drugs, piss on the toilet seat, leave feces on the bathroom floor, and vandalize toilet paper dispensers.
• They are the ones that leave sunflower shells, Mcdonald’s burger wrappers (because classier folks have something better to dine on), and empty soda cans (bought with food stamps) under the subway seats.
• They are the most likely to jump the turnstile — a gateway crime that leads to other criminal behavior (the same way alcohol and cigarettes lead to other drugs and substance abuse).

If course, for all of these points, there are other demographics to consider for likelihood of committing such disorder. Un-Americanized elderly Chinese, for example, are notorious for clipping their nails on trains and leaving the clippings all over the train floor; it’s not racism, but a fact that they carry that behavior over from China.

 

I had been discussing this with a friend who comes from a much different background than I (although I suspect we have much more in common that either of us admit). I suggested we do a survey of the riding public to find out more about their background. A properly constructed survey should clear up a lot of the assumptions that mar every discussion.

There’s never going to be a definitive answer here it’s always going to subject to people experiences and perspective. Culture plays a factor as well. There isn’t a standardized civil rule book here. You spoke of manners isn’t that taught and learnt at some point? How can you insure the person your passing judgement on understands the standards of manners? After all you are saying the person knows better but is choosing to do otherwise thus making them undesirable to civil standards. This is a slippery slope if we start down this road where do you draw the line? I just filed for my 1st IP patient in the last month I have a long way to go but I’ve heard this type of conversation from the other angle about the working class. So what If I’m able to create someone or lets say cure something? using that type of thinking why should I share? After all I’m one that put the hours and years in. Why shouldn’t I be able to help the people of my choosing? They choose to work and not take a risk on something new. These are convo’s I’ve been a part of especially after the election the majority of Americans don’t do anything to contribute to move things forward. And you know what I 100% didn’t agree with it in the same way I don’t agree here. We have to be careful because to someone else your poorer same with me I’ve been in the company of wealth My grit and integrity is what got me through some of those the meetings and encounters. Diversity is what makes this country great opportunity for one to better oneself. I’m sure the 32k people that have to pay more for the subway everyone else is a welfare case. Perspective and submission is important. All I’m saying (shurgs)

 

 

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[Mtatransit]

There’s never going to be a definitive answer here it’s always going to subject to people experiences and perspective. Culture plays a factor as well. There isn’t a standardized civil rule book here. You spoke of manners isn’t that taught and learnt at some point? How can you insure the person your passing judgement on understands the standards of manners? After all you are saying the person knows better but is choosing to do otherwise thus making them undesirable to civil standards. This is a slippery slope if we start down this road where do you draw the line? I just filed for my 1st IP patient in the last month I have a long way to go but I’ve heard this type of conversation from the other angle about the working class. So what If I’m able to create someone or lets say cure something? using that type of thinking why should I share? After all I’m one that put the hours and years in. Why shouldn’t I be able to help the people of my choosing? They choose to work and not take a risk on something new. These are convo’s I’ve been a part of especially after the election the majority of Americans don’t do anything to contribute to move things forward. And you know what I 100% didn’t agree with it in the same way I don’t agree here. We have to be careful because to someone else your poorer same with me I’ve been in the company of wealth My grit and integrity is what got me through some of those the meetings and encounters. Diversity is what makes this country great opportunity for one to better oneself. I’m sure the 32k people that have to pay more for the subway everyone else is a welfare case. Perspective and submission is important. All I’m saying (shurgs)

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If 250 million dollars was enough to hold the fare for four more year, why don't we do that and then everybody benefits?

[RailRunRob]

If 250 million dollars was enough to hold the fare for four more year, why don't we do that and then everybody benefits?

Is that a option that’s on the table? Sound’s logical.

 

 

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