NX Express Posted May 27, 2012 Share #801 Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) Next: Due to a Daft Punk concert at MSG, the 7th ave line and 8th ave line (Local and express EACH) must all have 30tph. Re-route as needed, and cut service if necessary. Interesting idea. Here goes: Runs express on 8 Av south of 59 St. Additional service operates between 168 St and Jay St. Runs via the in both directions between Roosevelt Av and W4 St. Runs via 63 St. Runs via 7 Av in both directions (2+3+5=30 tph) Additional service operates between Rector St (via S Ferry loop) and 137 St. NEXT The MTA is trying a new construction method. Therefore, directional running has been instituted on the 6 and 8 Av lines all weekend: No southbound trains can run on 8 Av. No northbound trains can run on 6 Av. Edited May 27, 2012 by NX Express 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted May 27, 2012 Share #802 Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) Trains Per Hour (tph) Chart: I just thought that I'd post a handy chart with the listings of trains per hour (tph). These numbers are taken from the busiest service time, mainly the AM rush. I'm pretty sure my calculations are right, maybe off by 1, but it's a nice and handy thing to use. - 20tph - 12tph - 10tph - 12tph - 18tph - 20tph - 25tph - 18tph - 6tph - 12tph - 10tph - 10tph - 12tph - 8tph - 10tph - 8tph - 8tph - 7tph - 12tph (combined) - 18tph Edited May 27, 2012 by Gorgor 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share #803 Posted May 27, 2012 Handy dandy iPad screenshot taken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted May 27, 2012 Share #804 Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) Well, the scenarios got better, and I'll try and stay quiet, I'll spectate, and may do an occasional scenario, but I'm limiting my time in this thread... Trains Per Hour (tph) Chart: I just thought that I'd post a handy chart with the listings of trains per hour (tph). These numbers are taken from the busiest service time, mainly the AM rush. I'm pretty sure my calculations are right, maybe off by 1, but it's a nice and handy thing to use. - 20tph - 12tph - 10tph - 12tph - 18tph - 20tph - 8tph - 6tph - 12tph - 7tph - 8tph - 12tph - 8tph - 8tph - 6tph - 8tph - 7tph - 12tph (combined) - 17tph The is 18, not 8. I'm certain of that. I also believe the & are more than 12 each. Plus, I think all lines that run in the BMT Western Division are 8 TPH. And you forgot the , which I think is at least 30 TPH. Edited May 27, 2012 by ThrexxBus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted May 27, 2012 Share #805 Posted May 27, 2012 NEXT The MTA is trying a new construction method. Therefore, directional running has been instituted on the 6 and 8 Av lines all weekend: No southbound trains can run on 8 Av. No northbound trains can run on 6 Av. LOCAL via 8th Avenue. Southbound: Via 6th Avenue local between 59th and W 4th suspended suspended northbound: Via 8th Avenue local, switches to express at 59th southbound: Via 6th Avenue local between W 4th and 53rd/5th northbound: Via 8th Avenue local then via the to Queens to Broad Street 6th Avenue Local Southbound = 30tph 8th Avenue Local Northbound = 32tph Might be pushing the limits, but it can handle that without any substantial delays ------ NEXT No trains can pass through the West 4th Street station. The level is fine, and the switches right south of the station are fully operational. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted May 27, 2012 Share #806 Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) Well, the scenarios got better, and I'll try and stay quiet, I'll spectate, and may do an occasional scenario, but I'm limiting my time in this thread... The is 18, not 8. I'm certain of that. I also believe the & are more than 12 each. Plus, I think all lines that run in the BMT Western Division are 8 TPH. And you forgot the , which I think is at least 30 TPH. Whoops, I've been looking at the wrong part. Yeah, I'll edit that post in a couple minutes with more accurate numbers. Edit: The and are definitely 12tph. With each train 4-6 minutes apart, 60 / 5 = 12. The others have been adjusted accordingly. Edited May 27, 2012 by Gorgor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted May 27, 2012 Share #807 Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) NEXT No trains can pass through the West 4th Street station. The level is fine, and the switches right south of the station are fully operational. : Runs in two segments: 34th Street-207th Street Canal Street-Queens : Suspended. : Via 6th Avenue line local. : Chambers Street-Metro Avenue I think this'd work... 6th Avenue Local: : 24-30 TPH... Edited May 27, 2012 by ThrexxBus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted May 27, 2012 Share #808 Posted May 27, 2012 Trains Per Hour (tph) Chart: I just thought that I'd post a handy chart with the listings of trains per hour (tph). These numbers are taken from the busiest service time, mainly the AM rush. I'm pretty sure my calculations are right, maybe off by 1, but it's a nice and handy thing to use. - 20tph - 12tph - 10tph - 12tph - 18tph - 20tph - 25tph - 18tph - 6tph - 12tph - 10tph - 10tph - 12tph - 8tph - 10tph - 8tph - 8tph - 7tph - 12tph (combined) - 18tph This clears a load of stuff up. I had no idea about the TPH numbers, and that is why I rarely solve the riddles about TPH. Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted May 27, 2012 Share #809 Posted May 27, 2012 NEXT Due to suicide attempts of the Viaduct at 4 Av, all train traffic must not come near hearing distance of the victim so she can be calmed down. Hearing distance counts as Smith St, which means no trains can turn here, and 7 Av. Reroute away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted May 27, 2012 Share #810 Posted May 27, 2012 NEXT Due to suicide attempts of the Viaduct at 4 Av, all train traffic must not come near hearing distance of the victim so she can be calmed down. Hearing distance counts as Smith St, which means no trains can turn here, and 7 Av. Reroute away. Why so sad? Anyway... : Hoyt-Schemerhorn Sts-Court Square : (Two sections) Euclid Avenue-Queens Ditmas Avenue-Coney Island 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted May 27, 2012 Share #811 Posted May 27, 2012 Why so sad? Anyway... : Hoyt-Schemerhorn Sts-Court Square : (Two sections) Euclid Avenue-Queens Ditmas Avenue-Coney Island What's your obsession with sending the to Euclid, when it's clearly not needed. Plus the can't all fit on one track without causing delays. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted May 27, 2012 Share #812 Posted May 27, 2012 NEXT Due to suicide attempts of the Viaduct at 4 Av, all train traffic must not come near hearing distance of the victim so she can be calmed down. Hearing distance counts as Smith St, which means no trains can turn here, and 7 Av. Reroute away. Not that i'm saying I like suicide, but it's a bit nice to have a different scenario now and then. Run an between Church Ave and CI. Terminates at lower level of Bergen St Terminates at Upper level of Bergen St Run express buses making all stops from Neptune Ave, to Lafayette (Southbound) and to 57th St (Northbound) (Southbound buses run on 7th Ave) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted May 27, 2012 Share #813 Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) Because of a structural failure, all four express tracks at 34 St-Herald Sq cannot be used (as a safety precaution).Local tracks are unaffected, but no trains can stop at 34 St-Herald Sq. Assuming in this scenario the local tracks can be run on, here goes: operates West 4th-Brighton Beach ONLY (using express tracks at West 4th to terminate) via local on 6th Avenue (skips 34th Street) extended to Brighton Beach, running express in Brooklyn with , , and all run normal (other than skipping 34th), but expect delays on those lines. runs as a five-car, 300' train between Coney Island and the Botanic Garden station (terminates on Prospect Park-bound track, transfer there to (2)/ (3)/ (4)/ ) Franklin Avenue runs single-tracked from Botanic Garden to Franklin Avenue on the Franklin Avenue-bound platform. Edited May 27, 2012 by Wallyhorse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted May 27, 2012 Share #814 Posted May 27, 2012 Assuming in this scenario the local tracks can be run on, here goes: operates West 4th-Brighton Beach ONLY (using express tracks at West 4th to terminate) via local on 6th Avenue (skips 34th Street) extended to Brighton Beach, running express in Brooklyn with , , and all run normal (other than skipping 34th), but expect delays on those lines. runs as a five-car, 300' train between Coney Island and the Botanic Garden station (terminates on Prospect Park-bound track, transfer there to (2)/ (3)/ (4)/ ) Franklin Avenue runs single-tracked from Botanic Garden to Franklin Avenue on the Franklin Avenue-bound platform. This foaming is disgusting. Really... you think that extending the J to Brighton Beach would be good? That would require many additional trains and you'd have to suspend the Z skip stop because the timing would be off, not to mention a huge deal of confusion, plus riders on Brighton wouldn't want to take a J because they're not going to Brooklyn along the J line, they're going to Manhattan. Why should the B and J both be express WHILE the Q is running local? And why not just make the Q train local in Manhattan? There's no problem with the N/Q/R running on one track through the 60th Street tunnel, so it'll be fine in Manhattan. ----- Anyways, this is how I would do it: B suspended D local via 6th Avenue Q local in Manhattan Problem solved, no extreme foaming at the mouth needed. Absolutely no confusion to subway riders. ---- You guys need to quit it with the foaming. Extending a train to somewhere where it clearly doesn't need to be does not help at all. For example, if I were waiting the 25th Street R station and I saw a D or N pull up, I'd be like "oh, no problem, something must've happened and they're running all trains local." But if an J train were to pull up I would be thinking "what the heck is this? I'll wait for the next train because I'm not sure what's going on." ---- NEXT SCENARIO: There is a stalled train at the QUEENS BOUND N/Q/R 5th Avenue/59th Street station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted May 27, 2012 Share #815 Posted May 27, 2012 This foaming is disgusting. NEXT SCENARIO: There is a stalled train at the QUEENS BOUND N/Q/R 5th Avenue/59th Street station. I think disgusting is a bit over the top, you know? Anyway... : Runs in two sections: Whitehall Street-Coney Island Queensboro Plaza-Ditmars Boulevard. : Terminates at 57th Street. : Runs via 63rd Street to Continental Avenue. Use free shuttle buses for 59th Street service. What's your obsession with sending the to Euclid, when it's clearly not needed. Plus the can't all fit on one track without causing delays. Where else would it go? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted May 27, 2012 Share #816 Posted May 27, 2012 Where else would it go? Where did A/F trains relay when the southern terminal is Jay St? The Lower Level at Bergen St 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted May 27, 2012 Share #817 Posted May 27, 2012 Where else would it go? What's wrong with 2nd Avenue? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted May 27, 2012 Share #818 Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) Because the West End Line is hit by something and goes flying up in the air , then lands in the waters of The Rockaways, there is flooding in the Rockaways and the West End Tracks (elevated) is also taken. Somehow, Coney Island suffered sever damage and a the glass fell throughout the tracks 1-6 and the platform. Tracks 7-8 was sent up in the air. An R68 later falls onto the Astoria EL between 30 Avenue and Broadway. The Marine Parkway Bridge is destroyed. Edited May 27, 2012 by Q23 Central Term 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted May 27, 2012 Share #819 Posted May 27, 2012 What's wrong with 2nd Avenue? Can't handle all the trains, and it leaves Rutgers with no service. Because the West End Line is hit by something and goes flying up in the air , then lands in the waters of The Rockaways, there is flooding in the Rockaways and the West End Tracks (elevated) is also taken. Somehow, Coney Island suffered sever damage and a the glass fell throughout the tracks 1-6 and the platform. Tracks 7-8 was sent up in the air. An R68 later falls onto the Astoria EL between 30 Avenue and Broadway Oh god, here we go again... What could possibly fly from WEST END to the ROCKAWAYS?! This is just like the damn magic bullet... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share #820 Posted May 27, 2012 Ou sir, have just seen the apocalypse in the subway form. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted May 27, 2012 Share #821 Posted May 27, 2012 Can't handle all the trains, and it leaves Rutgers with no service. Oh god, here we go again... What could possibly fly from WEST END to the ROCKAWAYS?! This is just like the damn magic bullet... By flying in the air, I mean by like going high by altitude, then coming back down. That Flying 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted May 27, 2012 Share #822 Posted May 27, 2012 I believe it was the Cloverfield monster that did all of this damage! LMAO!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted May 27, 2012 Share #823 Posted May 27, 2012 Because the West End Line is hit by something and goes flying up in the air , then lands in the waters of The Rockaways, there is flooding in the Rockaways and the West End Tracks (elevated) is also taken. Somehow, Coney Island suffered sever damage and a the glass fell throughout the tracks 1-6 and the platform. Tracks 7-8 was sent up in the air. An R68 later falls onto the Astoria EL between 30 Avenue and Broadway. The Marine Parkway Bridge is destroyed. Ok, I don't know or care about what you're smoking, but JUST TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT STATIONS CANNOT BE USED. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share #824 Posted May 27, 2012 I'm guessing the whole west end line, which would affect the sea beach at new Utrecht, The Rockaways below Broad Channel, Coney Island, and the astoria el btwn 30 and broadway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted May 27, 2012 Share #825 Posted May 27, 2012 Ok, I don't know or care about what you're smoking, but JUST TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT STATIONS CANNOT BE USED. Chill, man! What are you smoking, jeez... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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