YA- Why do NJT trains have to yield to Amtrak trains on the North East Corridor Li

[FamousNYLover]

I came to interesting question at Yahoo Answers while I was looking for good one that I could answer questions.

Is this true that (NJT) have to yield to Amtrak while on Northeast Corridor Line?

[D.J.]

Yes, and this is because Amtrak owns the trackage along that line and therefore have right of way

[FamousNYLover]

Thanks.

[Pablo M 201]

Besides that too, Amtrak has to keep it flowing since not many trains are making stops between Newark and Trenton (only the few that stop at Metropark, and then those one or two trains that would stop at New Brunswick and Princeton Junction).

[PATCOman]

To sum things up, Amtrak's railroad, Amtrak's rules.

[KeystoneRegional]

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[captain82]

well heres my question. Why does Metro North have to yield to Amtrak on both the Hudson and New Haven lines when Metro North owns those tracks to New Haven and Pougkeepsie?

[Zman]

New Rochelle to Port Chester and Spuyten Duyvil to Poughkeepsie are owned by the State of New York and Greenwich to New Haven is owned by the State of Connecticut. IIRC, Amtrak trains get the right-of-way due to the federal funding that the states receive to help maintain these railways.

[Amtrak7]

By federal law, all host railroads must give priority to Amtrak. In practice, most railroads follow the rule to a certain degree, by routing Amtrak behind high-priority intermodal and in front of all other freight. However, some care only about their profits, especially on busy lines (UP, CSX/NS in some cases). FRA investigations have led to better service in some cases.

 

Remember, MNR New Haven only allows 2 Amtrak revenue service trains an hour on their territory.

 

EDIT: Posts crossed. States get funds to help maintain Amtrak service routes?

[Zman]

 

EDIT: Posts crossed. States get funds to help maintain Amtrak service routes?

 

Not the service routes, per se.

[Myrtle Local]

By federal law, all host railroads must give priority to Amtrak. In practice, most railroads follow the rule to a certain degree, by routing Amtrak behind high-priority intermodal and in front of all other freight. However, some care only about their profits, especially on busy lines (UP, CSX/NS in some cases). FRA investigations have led to better service in some cases.

 

Remember, MNR New Haven only allows 2 Amtrak revenue service trains an hour on their territory.

 

EDIT: Posts crossed. States get funds to help maintain Amtrak service routes?

 

Not sure where you heard only 2 Amtrak trains an hour are allowed on New Haven territory but that's not true. Train 94 is late every night and by then 148 is right on it's tail followed by 2172 and those are only the northbounds. It would be impossible for only 2 Amtrak trains an hour to be allowed on New Haven territory between CP 216-CP 274.

 

New Rochelle to Port Chester and Spuyten Duyvil to Poughkeepsie are owned by the State of New York and Greenwich to New Haven is owned by the State of Connecticut. IIRC, Amtrak trains get the right-of-way due to the federal funding that the states receive to help maintain these railways.

 

Amtrak does not get the right of way, MNR's priority is to their trains obviously which is why we have to keep delay reports. Of course they're not supposed to slow us down but even if we are on time and they aren't, that's what happens. If we're late and out of our time slot, forget about it.

[Zman]

Amtrak does not get the right of way, MNR's priority is to their trains obviously which is why we have to keep delay reports. Of course they're not supposed to slow us down but even if we are on time and they aren't, that's what happens. If we're late and out of our time slot, forget about it.

 

And there you go, right from the horse's mouth.

[Nexis4Jersey]

Would widening the entire corridor to 6 Tracks fix that delay issue? True Acela High Speed in the center 2 tracks , Amtrak & Metro-North expresses on the Next set and the last set of tracks would be local MNR....I can be built. My friend said he puts at 20 billion for the entire NEC & upgrading it to handle 220mph. Amtrak needs to allow private investment onto the NEC.

[metsfan]

The real reason on the northeast corridor in NJ isn't station stops or funding or anything aside from NJTR trains only go 100 mph, arrow sets can only go 80 or 85. Amtrak trains travel at track speed, between 110 and 125 depending on if it has viewliners or not (viewliners have a restriction of 110). Once NJTR starts operating at 125 mph regularly with the new locos (if they ever do), they will no longer be held for amtrak trains unless they are making a station stop such as at trenton, newark, or metropark, in which case the track would be occupied by the amtrak train and the signal would go red.

 

The only train on the NEC to have true priority is the acela. If power goes out on the overhead lines, or there's a signal problem where the signals go dark, as soon as trains are allowed to move, you will notice the acelas will move first, followed by the trains that have waited the most, followed by everything else. Just listen to the scanner next time the **** hits the fan and you'll see what i mean. :cool:

 

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[FamousNYLover]

I also have another question.

I remember the incident on East River Tunnel that involves Amtrak and LIRR in Passenger Service.

I wonder how that happened?

[Myrtle Local]

I also have another question.

I remember the incident on East River Tunnel that involves Amtrak and LIRR in Passenger Service.

I wonder how that happened?

 

What incident was that?

[GojiMet86]

A mini - blackout, I think. It stranded the trains in the tunnel.