Platform Screen doors in the NYC Region?

[Nexis4Jersey]

 

 

 

 

Could these be installed in NYC/ Jersey City? If the station was completely sealed then the MTA or PATH could Air Condition the stations.....i know it would hurt us Rail Fanners but it would be freshing....

[Citaro]

Good idea:tup:, but there is no money for it.

 

St-Lazare station, Paris

[SoSpectacular]

They were planning those for the extension... But things do change.

[Kamen Rider]

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[lilbluefoxie]

platform screens are a waste of money and it makes it much harder for the motormen becasue they have to stop exactly or the doors dont line up, not to mention in an emergancy its unsafe

[Citaro]

platform screens are a waste of money and it makes it much harder for the motormen becasue they have to stop exactly or the doors dont line up, not to mention in an emergancy its unsafe

 

These doors help:

 

• Prevent accidental falls off the platform onto the lower track area, suicide attempts and homicides by pushing.

   

• Reduce the risk of accidents, especially from service trains passing through the station at high speeds.

   

• Improve climate control within the station (heating, ventilation, and air conditioning are more effective when the station is physically isolated from the tunnel).

   

• Improve security - access to the tracks and tunnels is restricted.

   

• Lower costs - eliminate the need for motormen or conductors when used in conjunction with Automatic Train Operation, thereby reducing manpower costs.

   

• Prevent litter build up on the track which can be a fire risk.

 

[SoSpectacular]

While screen doors would drastically reduce the number of 12-9s the railfans wouldn't have anything to foam at with those big glass window panes in the way

[Roadcruiser1]

Not unless we do it on a train. Or at a yard. That is impossible well almost impossible.

[lilbluefoxie]

some stations already have air conditioning and they work pretty well without expensive platform screens, such as South Ferry and Grand Central. I dont think itll work untill the fleet is completely standardized an such automatic systmes are put in place, and who knows when that will come to the entire system. Comparitively no other major systems in the US have platform screens, Boston and Washington dont have them for example. Ive only seen platform screens used in Las Vegas on their free resort trams.

[N-Trizzy2609]

 

 

 

Could these be installed in NYC/ Jersey City? If the station was completely sealed then the MTA or PATH could Air Condition the stations.....i know it would hurt us Rail Fanners but it would be freshing....

 

*SMACK*

[rr4567]

Platform screen doors are a disgusting waste of money. That's all we need, a new problem: Platform screen door motor burnouts, power failures, etc.

[Nexis4Jersey]

I know you guys like to fan , but its time we upgrade our system into the 21 Century. The NYC subway system is an embarrassment you have to admit that. Whats wrong with platform screen doors at stations like Penn station , Times Sq , Grand Central , Exchange Place , Journal SQ?

[YankeesPwnMets]

Screen doors aren't a waste of money. It might help some of you foamers get off the obsession of subway cars. Our system is a freaking disgrace. Rats all over the place, suicides like once a month and idiots walking across 4 tracks because they are too lazy. Screen doors will help, and its about time we upgrade the technology in the system

[metsfan]

Platform doors only actually make sense if the other side of the tracks is open to the ground on an elevated station. Another thing about the japanese platform screens, the stations they are used on get about 100 times more crowded than the worst peak hour crowds at the busiest stations in any system in the us. Maybe if people rode more it'd be a good idea, but then you have the antiquated rail system and magic new platform barriers, recipe for disaster. Once the physical plant infrastructure (tunnels bridges, tracks), signaling, communications, and control systems are upgraded to modern standards, and if there is a valid cause, platform crowding you dont want people being pushed off by the mass of folks moving around, and there is money, not taken from other possible projects, then yes it could be beneficial at some key stations, otherwise hell no.

 

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[rr4567]

I know you guys like to fan , but its time we upgrade our system into the 21 Century. The NYC subway system is an embarrassment you have to admit that. Whats wrong with platform screen doors at stations like Penn station , Times Sq , Grand Central , Exchange Place , Journal SQ?

 

No. This isn't about railfanning. It's about failure predictability and it's outcome. What happens if one of the sets of screen doors won't open? What if someone gets stuck in it? What if vandals use it as a canvas? What if the doors wont open and the platform is a single side platform with no over/underpass? What if someone runs into the window? What if a kid's hand gets caught in them?

 

These are all questions to think of before even considering that kind of plan.

[YankeesPwnMets]

No. This isn't about railfanning. It's about failure predictability and it's outcome. What happens if one of the sets of screen doors won't open? What if someone gets stuck in it? What if vandals use it as a canvas? What if the doors wont open and the platform is a single side platform with no over/underpass? What if someone runs into the window? What if a kid's hand gets caught in them?

 

These are all questions to think of before even considering that kind of plan.

Look at the Airtrains rolling around here. Have there ever been porblems with the screen doors? not really

[rr4567]

Look at the Airtrains rolling around here. Have there ever been porblems with the screen doors? not really

 

No, there haven't been "porblems", and probably no problems too B)

 

Think about it. The Port Authority owns Airtrain JFK, not bringer-of-deferred-maintenance MTA NYCT.

[EE Broadway Local]

We already have Platform Edge Screen Doors (PEDS):

 

JFK AirTrain uses PEDS:

 

Times Square-42d Street or Journal Square would likely look similiar to JFK Terminal 4 Station if PEDS were installed.

[rr4567]

We already have Platform Edge Screen Doors (PEDS):

 

JFK AirTrain uses PEDS:

 

 

Times Square-42d Street or Journal Square would likely look similiar to JFK Terminal 4 Station if PEDS were installed.

 

Differrence:

 

JFK Airtrain is a distance limited tram system

The NYC Subway is a full-blown subway system with over 400 stops

 

Which one seems easier to maintain

 

And besides, $$$MONEY$$$