Bus Guy Posted November 24, 2010 Share #1 Posted November 24, 2010 Is there a line that doesnt or hasnt seen a R160 due to various issues with the car, third rail or track issues? I am aware of the and issues, with the poor power at the rockaways and the flexibilty issues with running them on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted November 24, 2010 Share #2 Posted November 24, 2010 not that i can think of... just about every other letter line has seen R160's run along their length of track... except the but for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanarsie Guy Posted November 24, 2010 Share #3 Posted November 24, 2010 I think the shouls just take a 4 set of R160 and replace those R68 on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted November 24, 2010 Share #4 Posted November 24, 2010 I've never seen them on the line. I think the shouls just take a 4 set of R160 and replace those R68 on the . Why? The R68s are fine there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted November 24, 2010 Share #5 Posted November 24, 2010 I've never seen them on the line. Why? The R68s are fine there. Just New York's fascination with newer technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted November 24, 2010 Share #6 Posted November 24, 2010 For those that want to see an R160 train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 24, 2010 Share #7 Posted November 24, 2010 These are all the lines that seen R160s at one time or another in passenger service... ****** *When the R160s came in, they first started out there testing (although still technically in passenger service) **When the was split in 2 sections a while back, there was some CI R160s on the ***When the is split in 2 sections and is extended to Coney Island for service, sometimes Jamaica's R160s are used in full 10-car sets (although the northen half of the split will still use 4-car R46s The was not included cuz that time there was R160s there, it was just rerouted trains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted November 24, 2010 Share #8 Posted November 24, 2010 I think the , and the also saw R160's too when they were still in existence didn't they. The used R160's from the Jamaica Yard and the from the Coney Island Yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted November 24, 2010 Share #9 Posted November 24, 2010 I think the shouls just take a 4 set of R160 and replace those R68 on the . Franklin can't handle more then 2 cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus Guy Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share #10 Posted November 24, 2010 Franklin can't handle more then 2 cars. depends.... 2 R68s = 150 ft 2 R160s = 120 ft 3 R160s = 180 ft Id say the could handle a 3 car set and bump the extra car to make a 6 car set for use on say the or .....or rig it up with the 3 R143s out of service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted November 24, 2010 Share #11 Posted November 24, 2010 The R160'S and the R68's run in married 2 car sets. You can't get a three car set unless you break the set into pieces which is nearly impossible. To say it in a better term the shuttles would never see an R160, and you can stop dreaming and foaming about it, because it won't happen. I believe the only that would see an R160 is the Rockaway Park which during it's summer months is increased to 8 cars to help with the beachgoers. No other would see an R160. Same with the 42nd Street it would never see an R142. If you were wondering I only posted the R160 train because someone requested for one, and I don't really find R160's different from any other subway car. It's just a train nothing more. For those people that aren't happy with the R32's and R46's on the and stop complaining. They might leave by 2015 to be replaced by the mythical R179. Also the R160's, and R143's will not be taken off the , , and the to please any foamer. The decides on the fate and the line the R160's run on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted November 24, 2010 Share #12 Posted November 24, 2010 At the moment, they are on the lines they run on because of CBTC. The 4 car units are because the can't fit longer trains. They can also outfit some easily for CBTC and it won't be a long transfer for use on the . The 143s are self explanatory. The queens lines have it for CBTC down the line, notice it does not go uptown on lines where ATS is eventually planned (CBTC has an ATS like function as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted November 25, 2010 Share #13 Posted November 25, 2010 depends.... 2 R68s = 150 ft 2 R160s = 120 ft 3 R160s = 180 ft Id say the could handle a 3 car set and bump the extra car to make a 6 car set for use on say the or .....or rig it up with the 3 R143s out of service. Are shuttles even programmed in? Also imagine the FINDs on the 42nd Street Shuttle.... "This is a Grand Central bound Shuttle train...The Next and Last stop is... Grand Central 42 St." How ridiculous would that sound BTW.... wait what am i saying? 42st is IRT xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted November 25, 2010 Share #14 Posted November 25, 2010 I'm not sure of the 42nd Street or Franklin Avenue shuttles, but the Rockaway Park shuttle is indeed in the system. Proof Courtesy: Emmanuel Nicolas (NYCSubway.org) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DJ MC Posted November 25, 2010 Share #16 Posted November 25, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted November 25, 2010 Share #17 Posted November 25, 2010 That's probably why I think the R160s should have been delivered as singles just like the R62s and R68s were they were delivered in the 1980s, but that would be an issue. Though it would have been pretty intresting to see. The cabs would waste space and maintenance $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted November 25, 2010 Share #18 Posted November 25, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 25, 2010 Share #19 Posted November 25, 2010 depends.... 2 R68s = 150 ft 2 R160s = 120 ft 3 R160s = 180 ft Id say the could handle a 3 car set and bump the extra car to make a 6 car set for use on say the or .....or rig it up with the 3 R143s out of service. The R160'S and the R68's run in married 2 car sets. You can't get a three car set unless you break the set into pieces which is nearly impossible. To say it in a better term the shuttles would never see an R160, and you can stop dreaming and foaming about it, because it won't happen. I believe the only that would see an R160 is the Rockaway Park which during it's summer months is increased to 8 cars to help with the beachgoers. No other would see an R160. Same with the 42nd Street it would never see an R142. R160's run in FOUR car (R160A-1) or FIVE car (R160A-2, R160B) sets, not 2 or 3 car sets. Neither a four car set nor a five car set could run on the Franklin Shuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38th Street Yard Posted November 25, 2010 Share #20 Posted November 25, 2010 The R160'S and the R68's run in married 2 car sets. You can't get a three car set unless you break the set into pieces which is nearly impossible. To say it in a better term the shuttles would never see an R160, and you can stop dreaming and foaming about it, because it won't happen. I believe the only that would see an R160 is the Rockaway Park which during it's summer months is increased to 8 cars to help with the beachgoers. No other would see an R160. Same with the 42nd Street it would never see an R142. If you were wondering I only posted the R160 ( train because someone requested for one, and I don't really find R160's different from any other subway car. It's just a train nothing more. For those people that aren't happy with the R32's and R46's on the and stop complaining. They might leave by 2015 to be replaced by the mythical R179. Also the R160's, and R143's will not be taken off the , , and the to please any foamer. The decides on the fate and the line the R160's run on. these cars on the franklin shuttle are still singles 2916-2924 they can be cut and added on both endes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38th Street Yard Posted November 25, 2010 Share #21 Posted November 25, 2010 I'm not sure of the 42nd Street or Franklin Avenue shuttles, but the Rockaway Park shuttle is indeed in the system.Proof Courtesy: Emmanuel Nicolas (NYCSubway.org) Yes the R-160's has the Frankiln shuttle line in the computer but the 42st shuttle is A div so it would not be in there only in the R-142/142A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38th Street Yard Posted November 25, 2010 Share #22 Posted November 25, 2010 depends.... 2 R68s = 150 ft 2 R160s = 120 ft 3 R160s = 180 ft Id say the could handle a 3 car set and bump the extra car to make a 6 car set for use on say the or .....or rig it up with the 3 R143s out of service. Those 143 3 cars are shot windows and the frames are broken:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted November 25, 2010 Share #23 Posted November 25, 2010 Plus the other end is missing the cab [or A-car], there's no way they can run that train without the cab at the front. Plus the MTA isn't going to waste money paying another guy to stand at front to radio the t/o how soon to stop/go. It's staying OPTO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 25, 2010 Share #24 Posted November 25, 2010 Can't the R160s be broken up if needed? I forgot where I read it, but the R142s can be broken up from 5 cars to be in 3, 4, 6, or 11 (not sure how the latter would work out) car sets as semi-married sets but I guess the principle is still the same For the record, you would never find the 42 St on any R160...that's A-division. You can find all the B-division routes on a R160 (I've seen them all except for the shuttles, but that was proven) with almost every possible combination for them. Somme examples... to Bedfors Pk Blvd to 96 St-2 Av (yes, it exists already) via West End & Sea Beach to Prospect Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted November 25, 2010 Share #25 Posted November 25, 2010 Can't the R160s be broken up if needed? I forgot where I read it, but the R142s can be broken up from 5 cars to be in 3, 4, 6, or 11 (not sure how the latter would work out) car sets as semi-married sets but I guess the principle is still the same For the record, you would never find the 42 St on any R160...that's A-division. You can find all the B-division routes on a R160 (I've seen them all except for the shuttles, but that was proven) with almost every possible combination for them. Somme examples... to Bedfors Pk Blvd to 96 St-2 Av (yes, it exists already) via West End & Sea Beach to Prospect Park When the R160's were delivered,they took a 5-car set and took one car out of each set.they did this to the 1st R160A-2 set they had when they were testing the first R160's the got.they also tested an 11-car R160 train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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