BreeddekalbL Posted February 10, 2013 Share #5226 Posted February 10, 2013 How do they change the run numbers on the MCI d4500 CT'S that they are on the top left of the window when you face the bus instead of the traditional lower left? and why did they put them there? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted February 10, 2013 Share #5227 Posted February 10, 2013 How do they change the run numbers on the MCI d4500 CT'S that they are on the top left of the window when you face the bus instead of the traditional lower left? and why did they put them there?Same way as the others. The knobs are on top and I'm pretty sure it still folds inward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted February 10, 2013 Share #5228 Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Edited February 10, 2013 by Metro CSW 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted February 10, 2013 Share #5229 Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Great Exclusive!! Thinking about where they should put the logo, im thinking on the top left going down...like this New York City Bus Edited February 10, 2013 by XcelsiorBoii4888 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted February 10, 2013 Share #5230 Posted February 10, 2013 Great Exclusive!! Thinking about where they should put the logo, im thinking on the top left going down...like this New York City Bus Maybe they'll omit it on 4899. Also, still interested in that XD35? Check your status from last night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted February 10, 2013 Share #5231 Posted February 10, 2013 Great Exclusive!! Thinking about where they should put the logo, im thinking on the top left going down...like this New York City Bus Just need to put it on the engine hatch or on a numberplate like they did with 2185. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted February 10, 2013 Share #5232 Posted February 10, 2013 Just need to put it on the engine hatch or on a numberplate like they did with 2185. oohh yeahh, and the RTS. Maybe they'll omit it on 4899. Also, still interested in that XD35? Check your status from last night. I saw, and it was not for me, it was for a guy i know who operates school buses, he was trying to see if the school bus company would purchase xcelsior buses. (my idea) .They would, but it cost a lot of money i believe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5233 Posted February 11, 2013 oohh yeahh, and the RTS. I saw, and it was not for me, it was for a guy i know who operates school buses, he was trying to see if the school bus company would purchase xcelsior buses. (my idea) .They would, but it cost a lot of money i believe. Xclesior School buses? lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5234 Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) Xcelsior School buses? lol yeahh buddy Edited February 11, 2013 by XcelsiorBoii4888 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5235 Posted February 11, 2013 yeahh buddy That'll never happen lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MTA Bus Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5236 Posted February 11, 2013 Today in the Rockaways, the Q22 & Q52 were using JFK buses. I even saw a NG on the Q22. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5237 Posted February 11, 2013 Back to the incident with 4839, I think all operators should check all panels before starting their run. I have seen like, 3-5 buses driving with their rear panel open (next to their lights). They all are from Stengel, a while back I saw an Orion 5 drive near Bay Terrace with it's rear panel open. I have also seen OG's and NG's with their rear panel open. That is a hazard because some cars can crash into it and it can just swing into something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5238 Posted February 11, 2013 Today in the Rockaways, the Q22 & Q52 were using JFK buses. I even saw a NG on the Q22. Guess JFK took the CNGs and let FR use their buses instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5239 Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) That'll never happen lol. i mean maybe...look.how EMTA has some C35LFs as school buses/city buses now picture that in XD35 form...and more futuristic. Edited February 11, 2013 by XcelsiorBoii4888 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5240 Posted February 11, 2013 i mean maybe...look.how EMTA has some C35LFs as school buses/city buses now picture that in XD35 form...and more futuristic. That's a straight up transit bus, not a school bus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5241 Posted February 11, 2013 Guess JFK took the CNGs and let FR use their buses instead. Saying this as a serious suggestion: just convert JFK to CNG. The filling station is there and CNG is cheaper than diesel; and in general tends to be cleaner to run. The price of CNG alone makes it a good long-term investment for the MTA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5242 Posted February 11, 2013 Saying this as a serious suggestion: just convert JFK to CNG. The filling station is there and CNG is cheaper than diesel; and in general tends to be cleaner to run. The price of CNG alone makes it a good long-term investment for the MTA. The CNG filling station is within JFK airport, nowhere near the depot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5243 Posted February 11, 2013 The CNG filling station is within JFK airport, nowhere near the depot It seems close enough for them to use it anyways. 7 minute run. https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Rockaway+Blvd&daddr=Tow+Pound&hl=en&ll=40.65349,-73.79096&spn=0.019633,0.038581&sll=40.646203,-73.798135&sspn=0.001735,0.002411&geocode=FQJvbAIdWUma-w%3BFcA1bAIdoOyZ-w&t=h&mra=me&mrsp=1,0&sz=19&z=15 Not ideal, sadly. I suggested it because, as I said, they were using CNG buses anyways. This brings me to a question: with CNG being cheaper and (a tiny bit) cleaner, why haven't all depots undergoing rebuilds (such as FR, prior to Sandy) been equipped to handle CNG filling? I don't want to get into the pro/con argument of NG extraction, but it's going full steam ahead anyways, might as well take advantage of the low prices and slightly better emissions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5244 Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) Can Someone please tell me who are the local unions in queens for bus company and ta that are not represented by local 100 and is BP(Jamaica Bus) represented by local 100 ? Edited February 11, 2013 by BreeddekalbL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5245 Posted February 11, 2013 It seems close enough for them to use it anyways. 7 minute run. https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Rockaway+Blvd&daddr=Tow+Pound&hl=en&ll=40.65349,-73.79096&spn=0.019633,0.038581&sll=40.646203,-73.798135&sspn=0.001735,0.002411&geocode=FQJvbAIdWUma-w%3BFcA1bAIdoOyZ-w&t=h&mra=me&mrsp=1,0&sz=19&z=15 Not ideal, sadly. I suggested it because, as I said, they were using CNG buses anyways. This brings me to a question: with CNG being cheaper and (a tiny bit) cleaner, why haven't all depots undergoing rebuilds (such as FR, prior to Sandy) been equipped to handle CNG filling? I don't want to get into the pro/con argument of NG extraction, but it's going full steam ahead anyways, might as well take advantage of the low prices and slightly better emissions. Like the hybrid buses, CNG buses are more expensive to buy, more expensive to maintain, and more expensive to build/convert facilities around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5246 Posted February 11, 2013 Like the hybrid buses, CNG buses are more expensive to buy, more expensive to maintain, and more expensive to build/convert facilities around. What's more expensive to maintain on a CNG bus? The fuel system is supposed to be sealed and gas is supposed to keep spark plugs clean (unless they use a diesel pilot spray, I guess). Otherwise, it's essentially the same Cummins ISL9 but with some modifications, and the same transmission. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5247 Posted February 11, 2013 What's more expensive to maintain on a CNG bus? The fuel system is supposed to be sealed and gas is supposed to keep spark plugs clean (unless they use a diesel pilot spray, I guess). Otherwise, it's essentially the same Cummins ISL9 but with some modifications, and the same transmission. It's just the initial cost of buying the bus(es) that is somewhat expensive, however due to the low cost of CNG fuel, the costs will likely be made up in less than five years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted February 11, 2013 Share #5248 Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) Bus 3504 with an 'identity crisis'. Front sticker is JFK, but the rear sticker is Far Rock. So dunno if they forgot to put up the JFK sticker/fell off, but thought it was kinda odd. *I know for now FR will be borrowing some buses from JFK now and reverting back to mainly hybrids again. Edited February 11, 2013 by Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted February 12, 2013 Share #5249 Posted February 12, 2013 What's more expensive to maintain on a CNG bus? The fuel system is supposed to be sealed and gas is supposed to keep spark plugs clean (unless they use a diesel pilot spray, I guess). Otherwise, it's essentially the same Cummins ISL9 but with some modifications, and the same transmission. Everything on a CNG engine has to be made of a higher strength metal due to the extremely high temperature that the combustion stroke and the exhaust creates. Everything in the engine compartment has to either be made of the same higher strength metal or be heat shielded as well. And recently the started using more ventilation on the engine compartment panels. And let's not forget about the cost of those carbon-Kevlar "bulletproof" tanks with all of the associated hardware... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted February 12, 2013 Share #5250 Posted February 12, 2013 Everything on a CNG engine has to be made of a higher strength metal due to the extremely high temperature that the combustion stroke and the exhaust creates. Everything in the engine compartment has to either be made of the same higher strength metal or be heat shielded as well. And recently the started using more ventilation on the engine compartment panels. And let's not forget about the cost of those carbon-Kevlar "bulletproof" tanks with all of the associated hardware... Thanks for the explanation. Knew about the tanks, was disappointed that the engine-related modifications increase cost significantly. But is actual maintenance more expensive, too? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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