pelhamlocal Posted May 3, 2011 Share #1 Posted May 3, 2011 couldn't they survived until atleast 2000?:cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted May 3, 2011 Share #2 Posted May 3, 2011 couldn't they survived until atleast 2000?:cry: nope, the R68As replaced them, the R30s were also found to be unnecessary after the R68A order was complete and all the cars were back from their overhauls. They may have looked nice in their day but they lacked air conditioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
105th St KK QJ JJ J Posted May 3, 2011 Share #3 Posted May 3, 2011 Loved the R-27/30's(grew up riding them) but with no AC and the cars running down,it was their time to be replaced. I do miss them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted May 4, 2011 Share #4 Posted May 4, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted May 4, 2011 Share #5 Posted May 4, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted May 4, 2011 Share #6 Posted May 4, 2011 the R10s and R16s were replaced by R68s (the non A variety) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted May 4, 2011 Share #7 Posted May 4, 2011 The TA only saved one car,which is #8145.it used to be a schoolcar but the TM has it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted May 4, 2011 Share #8 Posted May 4, 2011 nope, the R68As replaced them, the R30s were also found to be unnecessary after the R68A order was complete and all the cars were back from their overhauls. They may have looked nice in their day but they lacked air conditioning. R68's Never Replaced them, The R143's basicly Replaced the some R27/ all R30's, The TA just wanted the R27/30's to retire due to the fact they didn't have A/C and faced a car shortage from 1993-2002, They were good cars, The R68's replaced Some of the R27's and Mainly Replaced the R10's and the remaining R16's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted May 4, 2011 Share #9 Posted May 4, 2011 The TA only saved one car,which is #8145.it used to be a schoolcar but the TM has it now. That car is on the scrap list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted May 4, 2011 Share #10 Posted May 4, 2011 That car is on the scrap list... WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Oh come on are you serious, I rather see the dead R33ML that are in 207th get scrapped than that 1 R27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted May 4, 2011 Share #11 Posted May 4, 2011 R68's Never Replaced them, The R143's basicly Replaced the some R27/ all R30's, The TA just wanted the R27/30's to retire due to the fact they didn't have A/C and faced a car shortage from 1993-2002, They were good cars, The R68's replaced Some of the R27's and Mainly Replaced the R10's and the remaining R16's. from 91 to 93 the R30s werent even on the Eastern Divison anymore, the last few of em were moved off the around that time and moved to the . The had plenty of cars thru the 90s. They didnt as many cars back then because of the Manhattan bridge construction killing off Broadway Express service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted May 4, 2011 Share #12 Posted May 4, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtattrain Posted May 4, 2011 Share #13 Posted May 4, 2011 It's not just that car either. The remaining R30s being used as school cars, the R17 and R21 that's at Concourse are in danger of being scrapped along with the rest of the redbirds being used as work cars, and the Slants being used as school cars. Though that doesn't mean it isn't too late to save some of them before there is a chance for that to happen. There's also an R14 museum car and an R22 garbage motor at 207th's scrap line. I have photos of them in flickr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted May 4, 2011 Share #14 Posted May 4, 2011 That car is on the scrap list... WOW,i thought the TM had the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted May 4, 2011 Share #15 Posted May 4, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R36 Preservation Posted May 4, 2011 Share #16 Posted May 4, 2011 It's not just that car either. The remaining R30s being used as school cars, the R17 and R21 that's at Concourse are in danger of being scrapped along with the rest of the redbirds being used as work cars, and the Slants being used as school cars. Though that doesn't mean it isn't too late to save some of them before there is a chance for that to happen.Does that include ALL Redbirds still in use, including the R33 WFs? If so, what will be replacing them? Some R33 WFs are based at Corona as they are needed for car moves (being equipped with double-sided cocks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted May 5, 2011 Share #17 Posted May 5, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R36 Preservation Posted May 5, 2011 Share #18 Posted May 5, 2011 Realistically, being parts cars or cannibalized is going to be the fate of many of the scrap SMEE cars. For the IRT 51' units, I could see installing trolley poles and sending them to San Francisco where they could be a welcome addition on the F-Market. The doors would have to be converted to low level (even with ADA mini high ramps) and one problem is that the R17/22/33/36 have right-hand cabs, while the PCCs are left-handed, making fare collection an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted May 7, 2011 Share #19 Posted May 7, 2011 R27s and the Westinghouse R30s were replaced by the R68A. The GE R30s were arguably not replaced until the R143. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelhamlocal Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share #20 Posted May 8, 2011 I don't remember ever seeing any GE's in service on the in the late 90's and early 2000's or even on any other line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted May 8, 2011 Share #21 Posted May 8, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted May 8, 2011 Share #22 Posted May 8, 2011 Does that include ALL Redbirds still in use, including the R33 WFs? If so, what will be replacing them? Some R33 WFs are based at Corona as they are needed for car moves (being equipped with double-sided cocks). Most of them will be scrapped, they have been doing moves using cars with out dual trips. It's allowed if there is a TSS on the train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted May 8, 2011 Share #23 Posted May 8, 2011 What Art Vandelay meant was that the R143s basically replaced the GE R30s nine years later. Right, I remember reading about how B division had a shortage of cars till the R143s showed up. Once they came the slants and R40Ms on the were then displaced to CIY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdi919 Posted May 8, 2011 Share #24 Posted May 8, 2011 well you guys wont see any r44s anymore because they were deemed structurally unsafe for passenger service. they wont even let us touch them for schoolcar use. they are going to be moth balled and sit in the yards till they can get rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R36 Preservation Posted May 9, 2011 Share #25 Posted May 9, 2011 Most of them will be scrapped, they have been doing moves using cars with out dual trips. It's allowed if there is a TSS on the train. I spoke with the #7 line manager last week and he said the Redbirds in Corona Yard are NOT being scrapped, as they are "used almost every day" and are active. But is there a reason why almost all the R12 to R36 cars still on the property are at risk of scrapping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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