official Subway - What If?

[Kendell]

Sorry that was idiotic... What about the second plan I posted?

[Quill Depot]

Sorry that was idiotic... What about the second plan I posted?

 

Trains station on the express track. trains run local from TSQ to 61st-Woodside, with a train shuttle from 61st to Junction Blvd.

 

Shuttle buses run from 74th Street to Flushing.

 

 

NEXT: A tanker truck has been involved in an accident and is ablaze on the Manhattan Bridge. As a result, the bridge is closed to all road and train traffic.

 

Are trucks allowed on that bridge, lol!

 

This is an emergency, so I'll go over 30tph

 

trains run via 8th Av and Fulton local to Euclid

Use trains to the to get to the for Brighton Service

trains run in two sections, 205th to West 4th and Atlantic to Coney Island

trains run from Astoria to Canal Street

trains run via tunnel.

[R188 7857]

NEXT: Structural problems were revealed on the line between 52 St and 82 St. It is a hazard to be driving in that area, so homes and businesses have been evacuated and no buses will run in that area. There is also a bus shortage at the time due to the train shuttle and the work that is being planned. Trains can not go near the part that of the structural problems because it is being said that the weight of the trains will make the structure collapse. Trains can only run between Times Sq and 40 St and Junction Blvd and Flushing Main Street. Residents in Queens still need to get to Manhattan without problems, and routes that are open in the area will be flooded with cars and buses. How will you fix this situation? The will re-open with a new structure in a few years. 

[FamousNYLover]

NEXT: Structural problems were revealed on the line between 52 St and 82 St. It is a hazard to be driving in that area, so homes and businesses have been evacuated and no buses will run in that area. There is also a bus shortage at the time due to the train shuttle and the work that is being planned. Trains can not go near the part that of the structural problems because it is being said that the weight of the trains will make the structure collapse. Trains can only run between Times Sq and 40 St and Junction Blvd and Flushing Main Street. Residents in Queens still need to get to Manhattan without problems, and routes that are open in the area will be flooded with cars and buses. How will you fix this situation? The will re-open with a new structure in a few years. 

 

Subway:

trains run as follows.

1. Single shuttle train operation between Flushing-Main St and Junction Blvd on express track.

2. Train run between 40th St & Times Sq. All 40th St-bound trains leaves from Manhattan-bound platform at 33rd and 40th Sts.

 

During this time, 37th Avenue between 58th & 83rd Sts will be buses only in either direction.

Buses:

Q18:

Maspeth-bound: Via 58th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 50th St, turn left at Queens Blvd, turn right at 65th Place, regular route.

Astoria-bound: Via 65th Place, turn left at Queens Blvd, turn right at 47th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 58th St, regular route.

 

Q32:

Manhattan-bound: Via 82nd St, right on 37th Av, turn left at 58th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 50th St, regular route.

Queens-bound: Via Queens Blvd, turn left at 47th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 58th St, turn right at 37th Av, turn left at 81st St, regular route.

 

Q33:

74th St-bound: Via 82nd St, turn right at 37th Av, turn right at Broadway, turn left at 69th St, turn left at 37th Av, turn right at Broadway, turn left at 37th Rd, turn left at 75th St, take stand

LGA-bound: From temporality stand, turn right at 37th Av, turn left at 83rd St, regular route.

 

Q47:

Glendale-bound: Via 73rd St, turn left at 37th Rd, turn left at 75th St, turn left at 37th Av, turn left at 58th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 50th St, turn left at Queens Blvd, turn right at 69th St, regular route.

LGA-bound: VIa 69th St, turn left at Queens Blvd, turn right at 47th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 58th St, turn right at 37th Av, turn left at 74th St, regular route.

 

Q49:

74th St-bound: Via 75th St, turn right at 37th Av, turn right at Broadway, turn left at 69th St, turn left at 37th Av, turn right at Broadway, turn left at 37th Rd, turn left at 74th St, regular route.

 

Q53:

Woodside-bound: VIa Broadway, right at Baxter Av, turn right at Hampton St, turn left at Elmhurst Av, turn left at Roosevelt Av, turn right at 83rd St, turn left at 37th Av, turn right at Broadway, turn left at 58th St, turn left at 39th Av, take stand on near side of 61st St.

Rockaway Park-bound: From temporality stand, turn right at 37th Av, turn right at 84th St, turn left at Roosevelt Av, turn right at Ake St, turn right at Whitney Av, turn right at Judge St, turn left at Baxter Av, turn left at Broadway, regular route.

[BreeddekalbL]

If trains can still run through the tunnels, they can just skip stops.

(You also can't say that debris from a plane crash can fall in just one specific intersection, but okay...)

im making it as if the 1960 mid air collision happened today what would they do?  

[Kendell]

A metor has Struck On the Manhattan Bridge , Collapsing It and Is Ablaze. The metor Has also affected Subway and Home Power in Manhattan causing no power. (I got this idea from that metor that hit Saturday. I forgot where?) What is the reroute?

[Eric B]

Coney Island to Franklin, with wooden platform extensions; since this is basically permanent, then begin laying down the second track on the space that was reserved for it, though Park Pl. will have to be reconfigured for this.

 

‹Q› Brighton Beach to DeKalb, relay to Gold St. interlocking, and then wrong rail to Pacific, and then wrong rail back to Gold St. on the southbound side, and then enter service on A3 track at DeKalb.

 

West End Line to PAcific, then cros over to stop at Dekalb, (to avoid ‹Q› wrong rail moves), and then follow Gold St. relay, to Pacific, and then continue south.

 

To Court St. 

 

On the other side, depends on where in Manhattan power is out. If 34th St. was accessible, then would terminate there; between , one would terminate at 34th, and the other at 42nd.

 

Fulton local service would be increased (with either local/exp swap, or swap), to pick up additional riders from Franklin.

But then, that is determined by where the power is out in Manhattan.

[Quill Depot]

NEXT: Structural problems were revealed on the line between 52 St and 82 St. It is a hazard to be driving in that area, so homes and businesses have been evacuated and no buses will run in that area. There is also a bus shortage at the time due to the train shuttle and the work that is being planned. Trains can not go near the part that of the structural problems because it is being said that the weight of the trains will make the structure collapse. Trains can only run between Times Sq and 40 St and Junction Blvd and Flushing Main Street. Residents in Queens still need to get to Manhattan without problems, and routes that are open in the area will be flooded with cars and buses. How will you fix this situation? The will re-open with a new structure in a few years. 

 

Stop retiring buses, so you can run shuttle buses. Get rid of parking on Roosevelt, so you can reserve a lane for buses. SBS machines will be put in, taken from the opening B44 SBS. This SBS will run on Roosevelt from Main Street to Queens Blvd. It will then run on Queens Blvd, only stopping at 46th Street, Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza where it will turn around and head back to Flushing.

 

trains run from TSQ to 46th Street

trains suspened

[Quill Depot]

A metor has Struck On the Manhattan Bridge , Collapsing It and Is Ablaze. The metor Has also affected Subway and Home Power in Manhattan causing no power. (I got this idea from that metor that hit Saturday. I forgot where?) What is the reroute?

 

I'm assuming NO power is out.

 

This is a long term solution:

 

I am putting a few switches in an stuff, here they are

-Broadway express tracks connected to the bottom level at City Hall (it is pumped out)

-X switch before Pacific St on the 4th Ave express tracks

-X switch after Atlantic on the Brighton Line

 

trains run via tunnel

trains run in two sections, Astoria to City Hall Lower Level and DeKalb Ave to Coney Island

trains run from Bedford/145th to Church Ave (Culver)

trains run in two sections, 205th to W4 and Pacific to Coney Island

Grand Street Shuttle

[Grand Concourse]

A metor has Struck On the Manhattan Bridge , Collapsing It and Is Ablaze. The metor Has also affected Subway and Home Power in Manhattan causing no power. (I got this idea from that metor that hit Saturday. I forgot where?) What is the reroute?

sigh....

[Kendell]

What, it could happen!

[Wallyhorse]

NEXT: A tanker truck has been involved in an accident and is ablaze on the Manhattan Bridge. As a result, the bridge is closed to all road and train traffic.

I'm going to assume that as this is an emergency, more than 30TPH can be used in some situations.  It also assumes the tracks to the Rockaways are back to normal:

 

ALL service runs to Far Rockaway or Rockaway Park (no Rockaway Park service during this)

 

runs Bedford Park Boulevard OR 145th Street to Broadway-Lafatette Street (express platform) with LIMITED service to Grand Street

 

is extended to Lefferts Boulevard (because of the , see below)

 

runs in two sections:

205th Street, Bronx-Euclid Avenue, Brooklyn (via 8th Avenue line south of West 4th and Fulton Street lines, local on Fulton Street line)

Whitehall Street (Broadway Line Station), Manhattan-Coney Island, Brooklyn via Montauge tunnel (local on 4th Avenue line)

(Transfer between the two lines at Jay Street-Metrotech)

 

LIMITED trains run via the between Queens Plaza and Hoyt-Schermerhorn (a transfer between the Manhattan-Euclid and those and trains is available at Hoyt-Schermerhorn Street on the Fulton line).  Most trains run normal.

 

is extended to 71st-Continental

 

is unaffected

 

and operate via the tunnel between Canal Street-DeKalb Avenue ( runs as a local on the 4th Avenue Line to 59th Street, operates as a local in Manhattan and Brooklyn).  There is a special OOS transfer available between the Queenboro Plaza and Queens Plaza stations (ask for a BLOCK transfer at either station).

 

runs between DeKalb Avenue (Bridge tracks) OR Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center (Pacific Street) and 95th Street, Brooklyn, running as an express between Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center and 59th Street.

Edited February 18, 2013 by Wallyhorse

[R188 7857]

What, it could happen!

Yes, in a 1/10000000+ chance......

[Gorgor]

Simple solution:

suspended

runs between the Bronx and Broadway Lafayette AND between Atlantic Av and Coney Island

via tunnel, LOCAL in Brooklyn

via tunnel

[FamousNYLover]

Subway:

trains run as follows.

1. Single shuttle train operation between Flushing-Main St and Junction Blvd on express track.

2. Train run between 40th St & Times Sq. All 40th St-bound trains leaves from Manhattan-bound platform at 33rd and 40th Sts.

 

During this time, 37th Avenue between 58th & 83rd Sts will be buses only in either direction.

Buses:

Q18:

Maspeth-bound: Via 58th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 50th St, turn left at Queens Blvd, turn right at 65th Place, regular route.

Astoria-bound: Via 65th Place, turn left at Queens Blvd, turn right at 47th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 58th St, regular route.

 

Q32:

Manhattan-bound: Via 82nd St, right on 37th Av, turn left at 58th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 50th St, regular route.

Queens-bound: Via Queens Blvd, turn left at 47th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 58th St, turn right at 37th Av, turn left at 81st St, regular route.

 

Q33:

74th St-bound: Via 82nd St, turn right at 37th Av, turn right at Broadway, turn left at 69th St, turn left at 37th Av, turn right at Broadway, turn left at 37th Rd, turn left at 75th St, take stand

LGA-bound: From temporality stand, turn right at 37th Av, turn left at 83rd St, regular route.

 

Q47:

Glendale-bound: Via 73rd St, turn left at 37th Rd, turn left at 75th St, turn left at 37th Av, turn left at 58th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 50th St, turn left at Queens Blvd, turn right at 69th St, regular route.

LGA-bound: VIa 69th St, turn left at Queens Blvd, turn right at 47th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 58th St, turn right at 37th Av, turn left at 74th St, regular route.

 

Q49:

74th St-bound: Via 75th St, turn right at 37th Av, turn right at Broadway, turn left at 69th St, turn left at 37th Av, turn right at Broadway, turn left at 37th Rd, turn left at 74th St, regular route.

 

Q53:

Woodside-bound: VIa Broadway, right at Baxter Av, turn right at Hampton St, turn left at Elmhurst Av, turn left at Roosevelt Av, turn right at 83rd St, turn left at 37th Av, turn right at Broadway, turn left at 58th St, turn left at 39th Av, take stand on near side of 61st St.

Rockaway Park-bound: From temporality stand, turn right at 37th Av, turn right at 84th St, turn left at Roosevelt Av, turn right at Ake St, turn right at Whitney Av, turn right at Judge St, turn left at Baxter Av, turn left at Broadway, regular route.

 

Addition to my post

Shuttle Bus between Junction Blvd & 46th St.

46th St-bound: Via Roosevelt Av, turn right at 83rd St, turn left at 37th Av, turn left at 58th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 48th St, terminate at Q104 bus stop.

Junction Blvd-bound: From Q104 stop, turn right at Queens Blvd, turn right at 47th St, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at Woodside Av, turn right at 39th Av, turn left at 58th St, turn right at 37th Av, turn right at 84th St, turn left at Roosevelt Av, turn left at Elmhurst Av, turn right at 37th Av, turn right at Junction Blvd,turn right at Roosevelt Av.

[NYCRailfan523]

A structural problem was found at the  platform of 42nd Street - Bryant Park (I'm not referring to the  as 5th Avenue). Trains cannot pass the areas near the station. This would take a 5 year-fix. What would you do?  

[Wallyhorse]

A structural problem was found at the  platform of 42nd Street - Bryant Park (I'm not referring to the  as 5th Avenue). Trains cannot pass the areas near the station. This would take a 5 year-fix. What would you do?  

As this would be a five-year fix, here's how I would handle this:

 

terminates at Grand Central

 

FREE OOS transfer between the subway at Grand Central (Lexington, Park and Madison Avenues) and the M42 and M104 buses.  There also are special OOS transfers between the subway and the Q32 Bus at Queensboro Plaza in Queens AND 3rd Avenue-59th and 60th Streets in Manhattan AND 5th Avenue-60th Street in Manhattan (These transfers do not count against the normal transfer on pay-per-ride MetroCards, passengers can re-enter the subway if they use any of these transfers from it).

 

runs local 125th-168th Street at all times and is express in Brooklyn at all times (normal Manhattan service late nights).

 

runs at all times 34th Street-Brighton Beach via 6th Avenue express and Brighton Express.

 

runs at all times and is re-routed to 205th Street to replace the in the Bronx.  Late nights, is extended to Lefferts Boulevard to replace the late-night shuttle.

 

becomes yellow, replaces the in Queens from 179th Street and via 63rd Street in Manhattan AND operates as a Broadway express train from 57th Street-Coney Island at all times via the bridge.

 

operates on the express track between Canal Street and 42nd Street-8th Avenue, skipping Spring and 23rd Street.

 

operates 34th Street-Coney Island ONLY, with some trains operating express 34th Street-West 4th in Manhattan.

 

is re-routed via 8th Avenue local from Broadway-Lafayette to 5th Avenue-53rd Street.

 

The 47th-50th Street/Rockerfeller Plaza and 57th Street-6th Avenue stations are closed until further notice.  Please use nearby Broadway line stations for service to/from this area.

[R42N]

7 trains would terminate at GC or Queensboro and the shuttle would operate overnight a transfer to the M to Bryant park at court sq

[Quill Depot]

Crossover added before 5th Ave

 

trains run from Flushing to 5th Ave

trains on track 1 run overnight

Half trains run via the from Lex to W4

M42 buses are free between 6th Ave and Times Square

Transfer to the or in Queens for service to Times Sq

 

 

As this would be a five-year fix, here's how I would handle this:

 

terminates at Grand Central

 

FREE OOS transfer between the subway at Grand Central (Lexington, Park and Madison Avenues) and the M42 and M104 buses. There also are special OOS transfers between the subway and the Q32 Bus at Queensboro Plaza in Queens AND 3rd Avenue-59th and 60th Streets in Manhattan AND 5th Avenue-60th Street in Manhattan (These transfers do not count against the normal transfer on pay-per-ride MetroCards, passengers can re-enter the subway if they use any of these transfers from it).

 

runs local 125th-168th Street at all times and is express in Brooklyn at all times (normal Manhattan service late nights).

 

runs at all times 34th Street-Brighton Beach via 6th Avenue express and Brighton Express.

 

runs at all times and is re-routed to 205th Street to replace the in the Bronx. Late nights, is extended to Lefferts Boulevard to replace the late-night shuttle.

 

becomes yellow, replaces the in Queens from 179th Street and via 63rd Street in Manhattan AND operates as a Broadway express train from 57th Street-Coney Island at all times via the bridge.

 

operates on the express track between Canal Street and 42nd Street-8th Avenue, skipping Spring and 23rd Street.

 

operates 34th Street-Coney Island ONLY, with some trains operating express 34th Street-West 4th in Manhattan.

 

is re-routed via 8th Avenue local from Broadway-Lafayette to 5th Avenue-53rd Street.

 

The 47th-50th Street/Rockerfeller Plaza and 57th Street-6th Avenue stations are closed until further notice. Please use nearby Broadway line stations for service to/from this area.

W-w-what? You aren't giving 6th Ave service because the cant get to it. Edited February 20, 2013 by Quill Depot

[Kendell]

A train has derailed at 42 St , Port Authority and the station isn't passable. Reroute all trains.

[Around the Horn]

via between 59th and w4

via QPlz toW4

some via

6th avenue express

6TH AVENUE LOCAL

Edited February 20, 2013 by Around the Horn

[CDTA]

A train has derailed at 42 St , Port Authority and the station isn't passable. Reroute all trains.

Via from Jay St to Broadway-Lafayette, then via the to 59th St. Runs local on CPW and St. Nicholas.

34th St-Euclid Ave (Southbound trains run express on 8th Ave) Any trains currently heading southbound in service north of 42nd St will terminate at either 50th St or 2nd Ave and will be held there until the incedent has been cleared. Trains heading northbound will be held in 174th St Yard, with a few being turned around NIS, to deadhead to Brooklyn.

Via 6th Ave Local

Brighton Beach-Forest Hills via Broadway Express, and QBL Local

Via Montaugue

Metropolitan Ave-Chambers St

Edited February 20, 2013 by CDTA

[TrainFanInfinity]

A train has derailed at 42 St , Port Authority and the station isn't passable. Reroute all trains.

 

: Via 6th Avenue Local in both directions b/w 59th Street and West 4th Street.

:

From Brooklyn - Trains terminate at 34th Street/Penn Station, and run via 8th Avenue Express.

From 168th Street - Trains run via 6th Avenue Local.

: Via 6th Avenue Local in both directions b/w 5th Avenue/53rd Street and West 4th Street. Select trains run via the Brooklyn-Queens Crosstown Line to Bedford-Nostrand Avenues, or Court Square-Long Island City.

: Most trains run via Brooklyn-Queens Crosstown Line in both directions.

: Select trains run via Nassau Street Line to Chambers Street.

 

Southbound or trains already at 50th Street or 7th Avenue/53rd Street terminate there until the collision is cleared.

There is a free OOS-transfer b/w 50th Street/8th Avenue and 50th Street/Broadway , using the passageway b/w those stations.

Edited February 21, 2013 by TrainFanInfinity

[R188 7857]

How to Answer: 

Copy and paste this notification and explain how you will re-route trains without bunching on shuttle buses, therefore flooding the streets and preventing workers from fixing the area, therefore, LIMITED SHUTTLE BUSES!!! WE DON'T WANT STREETS FLOODED WITH PEOPLE AND BUSES. Trains can be rerouted, but you have to explain the minutes between each train. If you can't then that is not considered correct. Lets do mine the real way and let someone satisfy me before posting a new one. -.-

Service Change Posted: 2/20/2013 7:39 PM

Until further notice:

Due to the hurricane, and trains are not running between Brooklyn Bridge- City Hall and 86 Street. 

     Structural problems have been revealed in the tunnels and all power is out. There was also flooding in the tunnels. No trains can pass due to no power in that area. Signals, switches, lights, and much more things are not working. Power has to be restored, water has to be pumped out, and the structure needs to be overhauled.

Trains will be rerouted:

[R42N]

Ok, 5 runs via the 2 train ,4 will run between 125th and Woodlawn transfer to the 2/5 for the 3 for Brooklyn service and the 6 between 86th and phelam 1 trains are extended after rector st (assuming that sandy has a lready hit) 1 trains run via the loop through bowling green to Brooklyn bridge