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There was one lady who helped me get on n80 Hicksville b/c she was also going on same bus at Hempstead Tnpk/Hicksville Rd,

She want n80 to start every 30 minutes at 5:30am b/c her job at Dunkin Dobut is 6am.

 

Ask her then ask 400 more random nassau people who don't use NICE they will ALL TELL YOU A SIMILAR story to this lady. Almost every LIRR rider I spoke with said something similar to this as one of the reasons they do not use NICE.

It has nothing to do with NICE and that's my point. I hear people complaining all the time that they wish the train schedule was better to to fit their schedule, boo hoo NICE sucks because they don't get me to work for the early morning shift that I picked up at Dunkin Donuts, the NXX runs hourly and gets me to work 30 minutes before. It's a transit system meant to fit the needs of the masses not a car service getting you to school or work at a time that best works for you and is not sitting there when you leave to take you straight home.

 

No agency is going to lose money running an empty bus or train to get this lady to Dunkin Donuts or me to Newark to get a cheap flight. I'm sick of hearing people complain how horrible NICE id because it doesn't fit their schedule to a T. It's not NICE or any other agency, that is life when you use PUBLIC transportation, it's not about one persons needs.

 

That is why many nassau residents DO NOT USE NICE/LIB!!!!!!!!!!!

Personally N6L needs to come back but minus the franklin ave stop as N1 does that.

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Ask her then ask 400 more random nassau people who don't use NICE they will ALL TELL YOU A SIMILAR story to this lady. Almost every LIRR rider I spoke with said something similar to this as one of the reasons they do not use NICE.

That is why many nassau residents DO NOT USE NICE/LIB!!!!!!!!!!!

Personally N6L needs to come back but minus the elmont ave stop as N1 does that.

 

sorry made mistake with N6 comment N6X can work if a stop at franklin is added then travel path is changed between mecham and jamacia to instead use mecham to tulip next stop little neck parkway at jericho then springfield @hillside and hillside at clearview or just all drop offs in queens to improve links with Q76&17 ect.
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Ask her then ask 400 more random nassau people who don't use NICE they will ALL TELL YOU A SIMILAR story to this lady. Almost every LIRR rider I spoke with said something similar to this as one of the reasons they do not use NICE.

That is why many nassau residents DO NOT USE NICE/LIB!!!!!!!!!!!

Personally N6L needs to come back but minus the franklin ave stop as N1 does that.

 

My plan was to take n71 to Sunrise Mall, however I made time schedule, mistake on n70/n71/n72 so I got off at Hicksville Rd to catch n80 Hicksville.

 

Hicksville Rd/Hempstead Turnpike NE stop for n80 was missing, so that lady help me and escorted me to same stop.

I cannot ask her because I don't always end up same time.

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Ask her then ask 400 more random nassau people who don't use NICE they will ALL TELL YOU A SIMILAR story to this lady. Almost every LIRR rider I spoke with said something similar to this as one of the reasons they do not use NICE.

That is why many nassau residents DO NOT USE NICE/LIB!!!!!!!!!!!

Personally N6L needs to come back but minus the franklin ave stop as N1 does that.

 

 

Not everybody who says that is necessarily going to use the bus. Some people complain that the bus doesn't serve their needs, but even if it did, they still wouldn't use it. Of course, some would, but still.

 

As for Franklin Avenue, the N1 doesn't help if you're trying to reach Hempstead.

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Hi everyone i am new here and I got a question about employment at NICE bus How is it compared to MTA and how is the pay?

 

Well, I don't know about the perks or the employee satisfaction compared to the (MTA), but I do know that the union (TWU 252) made an agreement with NICE where the minimum pay is a little more than 20 dollars an hour and you work your way up to a little less than 30 dollars an hour as a b/o. I don't know exactly what (MTA) pay is, but with NICE, you don't go through as much training as with the (MTA) and you start working faster.
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I thought that was just for the LIB leftovers, and there aren't too many of them left, if any. Also, I thought Veolia was anal about overtime compared to the (MTA) and LIMITED operators to 40 hours a week.

 

Well I don't remember a lot about what they said about overtime and such, but that sounds accurate.
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I don't know what goes on these days but at the beginning of the year NICE was very anti-overtime... Route picks for MTA LIB used to include picks that were OVER 40 hours, some route picks that senior drivers picked were 50 hours and over. That was just their regular route that they picked PLUS regular overtime for LIRR work (transporting pax between LIRR stations when LIRR was doing work and the trains weren't running) this is why it was not uncommon for senior drivers to be making well over $100,000 a year! You can see driver pay for MTA LIB by googling seethroughny and selecting MTA Long Island Bus.

 

One way NICE planned on reducing costs was reducing all run picks to 40 hours no over time... The new contract with the TWU has come out since then so it could include overtime, I dunno. What was released in the news is that drivers would be receiving a 3% raise every when NICE took over top pay was near $27, with the first raise it would be near $27.75, next raise would be just over $28.50....

 

I really don't know what starting pay is, it depends if you drive fixed route (big bus) or able ride (para transit).... I would imagine para starts out between $14 & $16 and fixed route is between $16 & $19... I know the OP on this subject would rather drive a big bus, everyone wants to drive a big bus. If everyone wants to drive the big bus where do you think the demand is at? ;)

 

In a news article I read about the new union contract, NICE drivers pay 20% and the company pays 80% of the cost of benefits! That's a damn good deal right there. I don't know why everyone is so anti Veolia/NICE but I would drive for NICE in a heartbeat if it fit my situation, I mean come on a union gig with benifits and a good starting rate, great top pay. (has anyone seen what other CBL B P/S pay in Nassau County? Peanuts.) I would make a career out of it.

 

Brett, where did you hear drivers start at $20? Not saying it isn't true but $20 sounds high and NICE is always advertising for jobs, if starting pay was so high you wouldn't think there would be a demand for jobs...

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Sorry for the double post but I just wanted to add a little to the difference between NICE and MTA LIB... I appled for MTA LIB probably a year or year and a half before NICE took over. When you applied for MTA LIB they called you in cattle call type to complete a job application, this involved the MTA putting you in a room with other applicants and you literally filled out an application together. "Where it says X put X.." I can't remember if it was the same day but they also had you sitting in the lobby of Mitchel Field taking a map test with other driver related questions. They then called you for an interview and assessed your skills most were put through to para but if it was determined that you had enough experience like a year or more driving a coach bus or full size school bus you were eligible to go through the MTA's training program. Oh it's also important to note that you would be hired as LABO, Limited assignment bus operator, thorugh talking to the HR guy and drivers LABO means you are part time and worked to fill in the gaps basically. I talked to one guy who was LABO and pretty much his week was 3 days working 6 hours a day EARLY morning on the N19 and spent 2 days filling in for the two days off of a driver on the N6 or N4 (can't remember which). With the two hour days relieving the driver on his days off he was lucky enough to get 34 hours. I quickly got the picture as a LABO driver your job was to pick up the work the full time guys didn't want.... It was explained to me that you could also get a swing work 3 hours on a shift for the AM rush and come back for 3 hours on the PM rush, fun. I thought cool LABO's get the N19, how bad could that be? Well one driver said it was because no one wanted the N19 in the early morning because there was no on it between Babylon and Massapequa in the morning, and the road is dark and boring making most of your shift boring.

 

If you were hired for para or took the option to do para instead of fixed route they would train you at Mitchel Field. If you were hired for fixed route you would have to get yourself to the Bronx every morning for class for 8 weeks! You would think they hire around the time they have a class scheduled. Oh no, they would be constantly recruiting and give you very little notice. They called me a few times for class and it never really worked out, I was out of town when they called, etc. etc. etc. You would also go through the regular MTA bus operator training program, which is odd because I heard you could be training with people the city hired with only a CDL permit and everyone from LIB already had a CDL and at least years experience. You drove around the city and even learned city routes (a waste IMO) and they briefly covered long island bringing training buses put to Long Island showing students (including city drivers) some of teh LIB routes.

 

With NICE they hire you and you do about 4 weeks of training at Mitchel Field...

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Brett, where did you hear drivers start at $20? Not saying it isn't true but $20 sounds high and NICE is always advertising for jobs, if starting pay was so high you wouldn't think there would be a demand for jobs...

 

I may be wrong, but thats what I think I remember from the agreements at the beginning of the year.
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