Chargerdodge9 Posted November 15, 2012 Share #1326 Posted November 15, 2012 This is off topic, but is the B35L actually doing anything for anyone? Back when it was introduced in 2004, I knew that this was going to be a wasted service due to all the traffic on chruch ave (even moreso between Utica and Flatbush avenues). Should the MTA keep it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted November 15, 2012 Share #1327 Posted November 15, 2012 This is off topic, but is the B35L actually doing anything for anyone? Back when it was introduced in 2004, I knew that this was going to be a wasted service due to all the traffic on chruch ave (even moreso between Utica and Flatbush avenues). Should the MTA keep it? It saves money for the MTA (somewhat) because the buses make less stops, but you'd be lucky to save more than 2-3 minutes from the local. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted November 16, 2012 Share #1328 Posted November 16, 2012 This is off topic, but is the B35L actually doing anything for anyone? Back when it was introduced in 2004, I knew that this was going to be a wasted service due to all the traffic on church ave (even moreso between Utica and Flatbush avenues). Should the MTA keep it? If you ask me, who lives around the B35 & uses either bus (local/LTD) interchangably b/w East 18th & East 42nd (the next LTD stop before you hit Utica), My answer to your last question is a resounding No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 16, 2012 Share #1329 Posted November 16, 2012 should B35L be rerouted to a street with less traffic or give up and make B35 straddling to bypass traffic completely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted November 16, 2012 Share #1330 Posted November 16, 2012 should B35L be rerouted to a street with less traffic or give up and make B35 straddling to bypass traffic completely? If it were re-routed, it would be irrelevant to the B35, and at the LTD stops. people jump on whatever arrives first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 17, 2012 Share #1331 Posted November 17, 2012 If it were re-routed, it would be irrelevant to the B35, and at the LTD stops. people jump on whatever arrives first. And before anyone says anything, a bus lame would cause a bigger problem on that thoroughfare then it would help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 17, 2012 Share #1332 Posted November 17, 2012 And before anyone says anything, a bus lame would cause a bigger problem on that thoroughfare then it would help why you think I suggested straddling bus to replace B35 LTD. It doesn't take away car lanes like HOV does and literally goes above traffic. Cars can continue to go 5mph but transit users get faster service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted November 18, 2012 Share #1333 Posted November 18, 2012 why you think I suggested straddling bus to replace B35 LTD. It doesn't take away car lanes like HOV does and literally goes above traffic. Cars can continue to go 5mph but transit users get faster service. How about no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 18, 2012 Share #1334 Posted November 18, 2012 why you think I suggested straddling bus to replace B35 LTD. It doesn't take away car lanes like HOV does and literally goes above traffic. Cars can continue to go 5mph but transit users get faster service. If bus lanes are put, it will lead to more patrol of bus lanes, and that whole throughfare would be an accident waiting to happen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 18, 2012 Share #1335 Posted November 18, 2012 How about no. How about its better than slow 3mph bus. Unless you have a better solution to speed up service without distrupting traffic STFU! If bus lanes are put, it will lead to more patrol of bus lanes, and that whole throughfare would be an accident waiting to happen It would piss off motorists and create backlash in the area. Straddling bus is the perfect compromise as it takes away no lanes and wouldn't be subject to backlash as it takes up no space on the road since it goes literally above traffic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 18, 2012 Share #1336 Posted November 18, 2012 How about its better than slow 3mph bus. Unless you have a better solution to speed up service without distrupting traffic STFU! It would piss off motorists and create backlash in the area. Straddling bus is the perfect compromise as it takes away no lanes and wouldn't be subject to backlash as it takes up no space on the road since it goes literally above traffic. Okay, but thats a huge investment there. The money needs to be available. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 18, 2012 Share #1337 Posted November 18, 2012 Okay, but thats a huge investment there. The money needs to be available. That is a much better argument. However the cost is much lower than a subway line and is much cheaper to build than one would think. I will do more research on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted November 18, 2012 Share #1338 Posted November 18, 2012 I'd be scared as hell to drive under one of those straddling buses. And what happens if you need to make a turn and the bus needs to go straight (or vice versa)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted November 18, 2012 Share #1339 Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) That is a much better argument. However the cost is much lower than a subway line and is much cheaper to build than one would think. I will do more research on it. With all do respect, you have some great proposals and ideas. Really you do. At the same time, somes of these proposals and ideas are essentially pointless. What I have seem to notice is that you will be one of the first to defend new technolgies (water buses, straddling buses, extensions) that have not yet been proven, and seem to want to implement without any further testing/analysis. Some quick advice, perhaps you could put more thought in what you can achive much more realistically, or with current resources. You would be taken a lot more seriously then. Edited November 18, 2012 by Turbo19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 18, 2012 Share #1340 Posted November 18, 2012 With all do respect, you have some great proposals and ideas. Really you do. At the same time, somes of these proposals and ideas are essentially pointless. What I have seem to notice is that you will be one of the first to defend new technolgies (water buses, straddling buses, extensions) that have not yet been proven, and seem to want to implement without any further testing/analysis. Some quick advice, perhaps you could put more thought in what you can achive much more realistically, or with current resources. You would be taken a lot more seriously then. Water buses were around for decades actually however they would only work on a handful of lines. Straddling will only work on the SLOWEST lines that do not duplicate or go under elevated subways. Besides those are long term. However my short term ideas use current resources to consolidate some routes or close service gaps. Boarding rule changes to add ridership without pressuring local bus resources. In other regions I look at segment manipulation to merge 2 or 3 lines as an excuse to add full time express service. In some of my posts about beeline I would try that time to time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted November 19, 2012 Share #1341 Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) should B35L be rerouted to a street with less traffic or give up and make B35 straddling to bypass traffic completely? Not re-routing B35's on snyder, linden, or lenox..... If it were re-routed, it would be irrelevant to the B35, and at the LTD stops. people jump on whatever arrives first. And before anyone says anything, a bus lane would cause a bigger problem on that thoroughfare then it would help +1, times two You will be hard pressed to see/hear people along church av in my area implicitly stating that they're waiting for the LTD (or they need the LTD).... Even over there by the for ppl seeking to head east on the B35, you'll get a few that'll specifically wait around for the LTD, but most'll generally hop on the first thing that comes.... Or, you'll get those that'll let the LTD's go & wait for the locals so that they get first dibs on a seat (since mcdonald is the first stop)..... Edited November 19, 2012 by B35 via Church 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted November 23, 2012 Share #1342 Posted November 23, 2012 I would personally break up the B24. I would extend the B48 to Queens, but I'm having trouble on where. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted November 23, 2012 Share #1343 Posted November 23, 2012 I would personally break up the B24. I would extend the B48 to Queens, but I'm having trouble on where. Well, B35's plan made sense. Have the B48 cover the southern half, and leave the northern half as a shuttle. You split the route and extend the B48 into Queens, all in one shot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted November 23, 2012 Share #1344 Posted November 23, 2012 Well, B35's plan made sense. Have the B48 cover the southern half, and leave the northern half as a shuttle. You split the route and extend the B48 into Queens, all in one shot. That would be the most effective, in terms of allocating current resources. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted November 23, 2012 Share #1345 Posted November 23, 2012 Well, B35's plan made sense. Have the B48 cover the southern half, and leave the northern half as a shuttle. You split the route and extend the B48 into Queens, all in one shot. Better than my plan. Have a through Greenpoint-Roosevelt route to Flushing since there's space along Roosevelt now. It can share a stop with the Q50 or across the street with the 48. The Sunnyside-Williamsburg half would be covered by an extended Q104. It would just make a u-turn on Queens Blvd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 24, 2012 Share #1346 Posted November 24, 2012 Well, B35's plan made sense. Have the B48 cover the southern half, and leave the northern half as a shuttle. You split the route and extend the B48 into Queens, all in one shot. ERR IT was my my idea originally. B35 just modded it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted November 24, 2012 Share #1347 Posted November 24, 2012 ERR IT was my my idea originally. B35 just modded it. I had both those routes doing that as far back as 2011 (See here, you liar).... Back around that time, you were actually suggesting Q33's going to greenpoint & Q49's going to Williamsburg.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 24, 2012 Share #1348 Posted November 24, 2012 I had both those routes doing that as far back as 2011 (See here, you liar).... Back around that time, you were actually suggesting Q33's going to greenpoint & Q49's going to Williamsburg.... ohh IC kay man My implementation was different I didn't do the research as I didn't know you then actually. But I have a hidden secret related to that later I will elaborate on that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted November 24, 2012 Share #1349 Posted November 24, 2012 ohh IC kay man My implementation was different I didn't do the research as I didn't know you then actually. But I have a hidden secret related to that later I will elaborate on that. What secret man? The more you do this, the more respect you lose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted November 24, 2012 Share #1350 Posted November 24, 2012 He never really had much respect to begin with, now it's just turning into pure hate. I don't know what's the difference between announcing these plans from the start or playing this game to get us to figure it out... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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