pelhamlocal Posted June 17, 2013 Share #1 Posted June 17, 2013 Do all NTT's have both a normal local ( ) and < > route shapes on the front, or is it just the 142A's, because that's all i've seen them on, specifically on the 6? thnx sry if its a stupid question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted June 17, 2013 Share #2 Posted June 17, 2013 that's cause the and are the only <> left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted June 17, 2013 Share #3 Posted June 17, 2013 Yes, they have the diamond layouts. Not as if they would be used on anything other than the 142s and 188s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelhamlocal Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted June 17, 2013 thnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lirr42 Posted June 17, 2013 Share #5 Posted June 17, 2013 Are the runs to Rockaway Park still designated as <A> in the timetable? (so if the ever gets NTT's (as they likely would at some point) they might need that designation then). I'd be nice if the MTA could use that <> designation a little more, maybe using it to singal trians that short turn or go someplace only at certian times (i.e. the handful of to 179th St during rush hours and the like) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted June 17, 2013 Share #6 Posted June 17, 2013 Are the runs to Rockaway Park still designated as <A> in the timetable? (so if the ever gets NTT's (as they likely would at some point) they might need that designation then). I'd be nice if the MTA could use that <> designation a little more, maybe using it to singal trians that short turn or go someplace only at certian times (i.e. the handful of to 179th St during rush hours and the like) The to Rockaway Park uses the regular bullet. The <A> was never officially used on trains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted June 17, 2013 Share #7 Posted June 17, 2013 The to Rockaway Park uses the regular bullet. The <A> was never officially used on trains Indeed. And the rush hour to Rockaway Park is designated as the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted June 17, 2013 Share #8 Posted June 17, 2013 Indeed. And the rush hour to Rockaway Park is designated as the . No it isn't...it also says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted June 17, 2013 Share #9 Posted June 17, 2013 No it isn't...it also says Doesn't look like an to me... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rockaway_Park_Shuttle_@_Broad_Channel.jpg Also, the lists it as a shuttle in the Lefferts GO announcement rather than "the express to Rockaway Park". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 17, 2013 Share #10 Posted June 17, 2013 The shuttle and the Rockway Park are the same thing in the Rockaways. They label it . That picture is probably an during the summer (remember both and trains Utilize Broad Channel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted June 17, 2013 Share #11 Posted June 17, 2013 The shuttle and the Rockway Park are the same thing in the Rockaways. They label it . That picture is probably an during the summer (remember both and trains Utilize Broad Channel). The picture was taken in September so no, not in the summer. If you Google around you can find more pictures of the to Rockaway Park outside of summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 17, 2013 Share #12 Posted June 17, 2013 The picture was taken in September so no, not in the summer. If you Google around you can find more pictures of the to Rockaway Park outside of summer. September is mostly summer, so it depends, if it was before the end of summer (20-21) then that explains it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted June 17, 2013 Share #13 Posted June 17, 2013 September is mostly summer, so it depends, if it was before the end of summer (20-21) then that explains it But there are various pictures appearing Google Images of the to Rockaway Park in other seasons... How come then? Is it occasionally used or sometimes displayed as an on purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted June 17, 2013 Share #14 Posted June 17, 2013 But there are various pictures appearing Google Images of the to Rockaway Park in other seasons... How come then? Is it occasionally used or sometimes displayed as an on purpose? That's because the train specials are NOT the same as the Rockaway Park shuttle. They are two different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 17, 2013 Share #15 Posted June 17, 2013 But there are various pictures appearing Google Images of the to Rockaway Park in other seasons... How come then? Is it occasionally used or sometimes displayed as an on purpose? because the version that doesnt run to Manhattan is called , the one that goes up to Manhattan follows the , so it's called . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted June 17, 2013 Share #16 Posted June 17, 2013 because the version that doesnt run to Manhattan is called , the one that goes up to Manhattan follows the , so it's called . Now I'm confused. When is it called the and when not? Here it does list it as the , just like on the pictures. http://www.mta.info/nyct/service/sline.htm#rockaway And here it says so too: http://www.mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/thcur.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted June 17, 2013 Share #17 Posted June 17, 2013 The to Rockaway Park is a rush hour variant of the train that runs from Manhattan to Rockaway Park. That's why it has the bullet. The Rockaway Park shuttle just runs between Rockaway Park and Broad Channel. Here's an Instagram shot of one of the Rock Park (A)s at Rock Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted June 17, 2013 Share #18 Posted June 17, 2013 Do all NTT's have both a normal local ( ) and < > route shapes on the front, or is it just the 142A's, because that's all i've seen them on, specifically on the 6? thnx sry if its a stupid question The R160s include a diamond... the R160 in this video glitched to a <M> instead of Yes, they have the diamond layouts. Not as if they would be used on anything other than the 142s and 188s. Well if the MTA ever does decide to create a Culver Express service then I would presume it would be labeled as . This would probably be the only possibility where the R160s used the diamond symbol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelhamlocal Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share #19 Posted June 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted June 17, 2013 Share #20 Posted June 17, 2013 Now I'm confused. When is it called the and when not? Here it does list it as the , just like on the pictures. http://www.mta.info/nyct/service/sline.htm#rockaway And here it says so too: http://www.mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/thcur.pdf This is always the ... except when it's the . The Rockaway Park (A)s are (A)s that run to Rockaway Park instead of Far Rockaway in suplement to the . They only run in the peak direction, and give Rockaway Park riders a one seat to/from manhattan, to make up for having the shuttle under normal cirmcustances. 5 trains to Mahattan in the morning, and 5 back in the evening. All but the last are 168th street put-ins. These are distinct, seperate lines. If the shuttle went all the way to manhattan, then it wouldn't be a shuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted June 18, 2013 Share #21 Posted June 18, 2013 I downvoted all of the false information being given in this thread. Mostly coming from the same person over and over. The to Rockaway Park is the (also informally referred to as the SHOWCASE). There is NO <A> in use ANYWHERE, nor is it called or signed as a ! Also, since it continuously keeps coming up here, ALL 's that run to Rock Park start at 168 St, and all AM 's that come out of Rock Park run to 207 St like any other . At NO POINT do trains go in or out of service at 59 St!!!!! Anyway, getting back to the original question - the 142, 142A, and 160 are all capable of displaying diamond bullets, but will only do so if the route is programmed that way. The only active route programs which use it are if the is running express in the Bronx, or if the is running express in Queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted June 18, 2013 Share #22 Posted June 18, 2013 Just a question... whats up with the <L> and programs then? What are they used for?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted June 18, 2013 Share #23 Posted June 18, 2013 I downvoted all of the false information being given in this thread. Mostly coming from the same person over and over. The to Rockaway Park is the (also informally referred to as the SHOWCASE). There is NO <A> in use ANYWHERE, nor is it called or signed as a ! Also, since it continuously keeps coming up here, ALL 's that run to Rock Park start at 168 St, and all AM 's that come out of Rock Park run to 207 St like any other . At NO POINT do trains go in or out of service at 59 St!!!!! Anyway, getting back to the original question - the 142, 142A, and 160 are all capable of displaying diamond bullets, but will only do so if the route is programmed that way. The only active route programs which use it are if the is running express in the Bronx, or if the is running express in Queens. I always thought they went to Dyckman...well you learn something new every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted June 18, 2013 Share #24 Posted June 18, 2013 There are some trains that do terminated at 168th or Dyckman Streets from what I've seen at the AM Rush. Reverse goes true southbound at the PM Rush. I assume 207th Street can't handle all those frequent service during the rush hour periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted June 18, 2013 Share #25 Posted June 18, 2013 I downvoted all of the false information being given in this thread. Mostly coming from the same person over and over. The to Rockaway Park is the (also informally referred to as the SHOWCASE). There is NO <A> in use ANYWHERE, nor is it called or signed as a ! Also, since it continuously keeps coming up here, ALL 's that run to Rock Park start at 168 St, and all AM 's that come out of Rock Park run to 207 St like any other . At NO POINT do trains go in or out of service at 59 St!!!!! Anyway, getting back to the original question - the 142, 142A, and 160 are all capable of displaying diamond bullets, but will only do so if the route is programmed that way. The only active route programs which use it are if the is running express in the Bronx, or if the is running express in Queens. Well, then what were those trains doing in the Rockaways? You can find the pictures real easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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