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What kills me is that they never even bothered to install emergency intercoms in each car like the tech trains on all the R46's and R68's. That would have helped because the crew would have been notified and the police could have a greater chance of nabbing the guy. People tend to cap for these cars knowing that they are rolling safety hazards and have been for years. Locked doors and no way of communicating to the crew is just disastrous . is going to be under fire when all of this comes out. People will speak out saying they were trapped because of the locked doors.

Yep, If this is the case. This will backfire real hard on the governor and anyone who supports it.

They are going to really come down on over this. These 75 foot subway cars are giant safety hazards regardless of any situation. They don't even have an emergency intercom system like the tech trains. But This is some serious shit and with all the things i've been seeing between idiots going into to tunnels vandalizing shit and other non sense. I knew something like this would happen. Maybe this is a wake up call to keep our city safe and our subways safe by ramping up Police.

I'm hoping the next holiday train is 2 trains like what they are doing with the Yankee special . Have the set of R32's from last year or the TOMM with the R1/9's. It would divide the crowd. I like what they are doing here.

They edited the article, The redbird part was edited out so they might have made a mistake. I was hoping to see the TOMC but it seems the corrected them so it's just the low V's.

I will never understand why they do these types of GO's at the same time knowing that people will use the by default. They should have had express shuttle bus service to Myrtle and Wycoff for the and have the go to 96th st.

Potential Bus Depot list of redesigned routes Q1-QV JFK loses the Q6 but gains more buses for the extended Q10 and etc. (I still think this merge won't go through.) Q2-QV Q3-JA Q4-JA Q5-JA Q7-JFK Q8-JFK Q9-JFK Q10-JFk Q11-FR/JFK Q12-CS Q13-CS Q14-FP or LGA (the Eliot ave part of the Q38, Could be FP since this is a new route) Q16-CS Q17-CS (makes sense to move this to CS, It won't terminate in Jamaica anymore.) Q18-LGA Q19-CP Q20-CS Q21-FR/JFK Q22-FR Q23-LGA Q24-ENY Q25-CP Q26-QV (replaces the Q27) Q27-CS (Q27 goes back to CS, makes no sense for it to come out of QV) Q28-CS Q31-JA Q32-CS Q33-LGA Q35-FR Q37-JFK Q38-CP or LGA (Could go back to LGA or stay at CP) Q39-LGA Q40-JFK Q42-JA Q43-QV Q44-CS Q45-QV Q46/48-QV Q47-LGA Q49-LGA Q50-ECH Q51-JFK,BP or ENY (This one is very Tricky. BP is right there on linden in the middle of the route, Could deadhead to BP like the Q110, The western terminal is not far from ENY or JFK depot) Q52-JFK/FR Q53-LGA Q54-FP Q55-FP Q56-ENY Q57-BP or QV (BP deadhead isn't far since the western terminal is where the Q112 terminates, QV could get this route since it's also not too far from the depot at it's eastern terminal) Q58-FP Q59-GA Q60-JFK Q61-CS Q62-CS Q63-LGA? GA? (this one is tricky) Q65-CP Q66-CP Q67-LGA Q68-LGA or GA Q69-LGA Q70-LGA Q72-LGA Q73-QV Q75-JA Q76-CS Q77-JA Q78-CS or JFK (JFK is very close to the southern terminal of this route) Q80-FP Q82-QV Q83-QV Q84-JA Q85-JA Q86-JA Q88-QV Q98-CS or FP (This one is very tricky) Q104-LGA Q105-LGA Q109-JFK (I think JFK would get this route, But BP could also get it) Q111-BP Q114-BP Q115-BP B53-ENY or GA B57-GA or FP B62-GA Express routes stay at their Depots that they are at currently New Express route QM65- BP (fills the void of losing the Q64 and the BP would make the best sense because the depot is right there not to far from the terminal and the fact they are reducing the QM21 makes it obvious BP is getting the QM65.) I just don't want bus B/O's getting screwed because I know put's NYCT on top while Bus company is at the very bottom. This whole thing is going to be a big mess since Queens have different unions. I don't want to hear about NYCT, MaBstoa and Bus company merging because I heard that same rumor for 14 years now.

I made a list of the routes on which Depots they could come out of, I wonder if i should post it here or in a separate thread? Nothing much changes with an exception of the merged or new routes. I think the majority of the routes will still be at their respective depots.

looking at the QM65, I could see it being a Baisley route .Q109 could also be a Baisley route as well. I don't know about the Q57 though, It could still be a BP route but it could also be a QV route.

The Only issue is that the doesn't serve briarwood during the day, Only the . Only Off peak and Weekends the serves briarwood. I think that's why he thinks union turnpike is a better terminal since you can connect to both the 24/7. I Still Think they were better off Having the Merged Q1 serve Merrick Blvd instead of replacing the Q6. That would have made more sense while the Q25 either serve it's current terminal or have it terminate somewhere else close to Jamaica. Also If the Combined Q1 is a thing where it replaces the Q6, JFK would not get the newly revised Q1 since that would stay at QV but gain more with the Q10 extension.

People Still use the Q60 from South Jamaica, Esp in the peak hours. Them running every other bus to archer ave was a good move to balance out the route. The Q20 should have went as far as Supthin Blvd if they wanted to cut it back. Yea losing the Q65 LTD isn't gonna go well. The Super routes like the Q1 merge and the Q25 on Merrick I'm mixed on. The Q25 on Merrick will have frequent service, People who live along Merrick along where the Q25 will be serving has a vocal community. So I can see them improving the Q25 since it would be serving the local stops btween Springfeild and Jamaica. I don't see the Q1 super route being a thing since it's a grey area. The Q6 is a very busy route while the Q1 only gets busy during the peak hours on hillside ave. JFK would lose this route to QV which isn't going to sit well with JFK depot.

I think they should do away with the Q1/Q6 merge and instead have the Q1 go down Merrick Blvd while the Q25 terminates at it's current terminal. The Q6 would stay as is with the modifications. I wonder how this will go knowing that Queens have different unions. BP,LGA and CP are local 100 while JFK-FR,JA,CS and QV have different unions. But that Q1/Q6 merge might not happen as people along the Q6 would probably not agree with it. The Q6 is one of JFK's busiest routes and Merging it with the Q1 would cause more issues. As a fan the Q25 on Merrick is very interesting because we will see a CNG bus on Merrick Blvd but as a rider the route would simply be too long and the fact that it's local makes it even worse. I remember Queens Surface telling before the takeover to split the Q25 in half (Jamaica to Flushing, Flushing to college point) due to how unreliable the route was due to the traffic in downtown flushing. Them canning the Q113 in favor of the Q114 is dumb. Just keep it as the Q113 and have the Q114 as the local between Farmers and Parsons. I'm happy that the Q111 is an express rush route but a stop at Linden blvd is needed. The Q38 being split i have no issue with, As long as either part is kept, I'm good as that's my back up bus to take to the train just in case Queens blvd is screwed up. (I know they kept the Q38 portion because line crews use that bus to get to metropolitan from Rego park). The Q10 being merged with the Q64 isn't bad, Now those people will have a 100% artic route. The Q47 should have been split like before with the (old Q45 coming back) merging those 2 routes was a bad idea back in 2010 or 2011. That LGA part should have been more streamlined as it still has those turns which suck.

This is a lot better than the first draft but they still need to do some work but other than that, It isn't that bad compared to the first draft.

When they first Got to Jamaica, 2 sets of 9800's were on the . These were Jamaica's again as soon as the went back to it at the start of the new Pick. They just started swapping cars since those 98/9900's are due for an inspection. That's why they kept those cars on the , The 3rd week of the pick 9243-47 was on the . 9853-9942 already has CBTC in them and were running in CBTC before they were swapped to CI. remember some of the 9900's stayed at Jamaica for another month before going to CI for an earlier 9800 set.

there's a siemens R160 on the 9038-42.

3766-3783 stayed at BP since being delivered. 3764 was sent to FR along with 3500-3522,3524 and 3759-3765 for 3525-3546,3548-3559 10 years ago due to a mileage swap. 3523 was sent to JFK back in 2018 or 19 (if I'm correct). Some former 35/3700 (3764/65) BP units did come back around 2014 before they were moved to LGA or JFK when the XD60's were delivered.

In some cases yeah that's true but not all transit fans think like that. My issue is how it's being done. Instead of investing in more of a standardized way of doing things, They half ass it. I have no issue with the platform doors, My issue is the fact that this is more important than station rehabs. Supthin - Archer looks like a hell hole and other stations are in need of a need a rehab. Times sq on the is the only renovated station getting platform doors. All of this is just putting lipstick on a pig instead of doing it right.

It can work when done right. Why do platform doors in a station that needs rehab (Supthin/Archer) People in this community tend to lack common sense and not think. All of the decisions is making are due to political pressure. We have stations and elevated structures falling apart, That should be more of the focus vs. platform screen doors.

They are starting to rotate the r160's more now which was going to happen. 9893-97 was on the yesterday. So I would expect to start seeing more different consists on the hopefully they swap out a siemens set from the

BP might be the last depot, They only received 2 NG's so far but I think LGA and JFK are the main focus right now when it comes to replacing OG's.

the Local tracks on both sides the signals have been removed. The Express Tracks between Roosevelt and 36th st have been removed. There's only signals at certain locations along the line. A lot of you need to get over the fact that CI isn't going to have anything new for awhile. Yes While it does suck, It's not that big of a deal. If riders had to deal with R32's,38's,40's,42's,44's and R46's over a 30 year time span, People in Astoria,Broadway and south Brooklyn can deal with old shit for no less than a decade. You guys are starting to feel very entitled and it shows.

Dude, the R46's reliability has been on a nose dive. Plenty of T/O's have stated this on other places such as reddit, FB, etc. That's not exaggerating, It's a fact. A lot of people need to keep the same energy they had for the R32's reliability and flaws and point them out on the R46's as well. This is what happens when you reduce the spare factor and run the cars to death on 3 24 hour routes. The pitkin ones are way better than the CI ones. They might be dirty due to the wash being out but they run a lot better than the CI ones. They were going to do the swap regardless but Jamaica won't be keeping all of those R160's in the coming years.

Yeah, I heard the same but let em learn the hard way. But The R32's retiring this year isn't a surprise because they were supposed to retire this year anyway. The only thing that is different is that they didn't run at all in 2021 (Holiday runs in December of last year) and in 2020 they wanted all them OOS by april of 2020 due to the governors office but the R179 pull apart happened and they ended up running on the /. for 3 and a half months. I heard they are only scrapping the majority of the cars that were already OOS before they went back in service on the in 2020. (some of the cars that returned in service in 2020 are also getting scrapped) But that could all change to the majority of the remaing 200+ R32 fleet.

They need to send the other former cars back and give Westchester the 1800's that 240th has.

Queens Blvd all weekend was a crawling mess with flagging everywhere. Extending the to Jamaica Center would have made it worse with all 3 lines running local. What they should have did was Make the a shuttle between Jamaica Center and Forest Hills all weekend. The was pointless this weekend with it running only to 34th st/Broadway. The to Jamaica Center last happened in 2001, After that they didn't do it no more since people whined about it.