nel070 Posted October 6, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 6, 2009 does anyone know when jamaica depot got the new orions saw one on teh q4 this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted October 6, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 6, 2009 It was probably testing. AFAIK Jamaica is next to get the NG's anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous85 Posted October 6, 2009 Share #3 Posted October 6, 2009 OMG (I always wanted to type that lol), I'm hype now, I hope it all goes well and the NGs don't end up going to another depot, I hope they test it on the Q85. The End of An Era (RTS edition) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted October 6, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 6, 2009 I'm hoping it means their '99 Novas are sent over to ENY and other Brooklyn depots B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted October 6, 2009 Share #5 Posted October 6, 2009 Are you sure it was in service? That garage should be training drivers on those buses now, but they aren't supposed to get them for another week or two. Did you get the number by any chance? Currently, Gun Hill is supposed to get O7 NGs before Jamaica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted October 6, 2009 Share #6 Posted October 6, 2009 Please keep the NG/Hybrid away from Jamaica. I like getting a seat on the Q85, not being cramped in some two level monstrosity. Jamaica is the last refuge from the Hybrids. Lets keep it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted October 6, 2009 Share #7 Posted October 6, 2009 What the MTA decides is final, nothing is going to change it. And give it a rest already, there's nothing wrong with the low floor buses. If you hate the low floors that much, then ride the D4500's that you love so much. No one is forcing you to ride the local buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous85 Posted October 6, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 6, 2009 Please keep the NG/Hybrid away from Jamaica. I like getting a seat on the Q85, not being cramped in some two level monstrosity. Jamaica is the last refuge from the Hybrids. Lets keep it that way. Getting a seat on the Q85 is hard in the morning with the RTSs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous85 Posted October 6, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 6, 2009 I just passed Jamaica Depot on the Q85 and there is an NG in the yard towards the back up against the fence, I was too far away and going too fast to see the number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted October 6, 2009 Share #10 Posted October 6, 2009 What the MTA decides is final, nothing is going to change it. And give it a rest already, there's nothing wrong with the low floor buses.If you hate the low floors that much, then ride the D4500's that you love so much. No one is forcing you to ride the local buses. I can no longer afford the express bus. In a perfect world I would ride the x bus all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted October 6, 2009 Share #11 Posted October 6, 2009 Getting a seat on the Q85 is hard in the morning with the RTSs too. If I get on the Q85 local that starts at 137/Farmers then I can get a seat. There's a 0% chance of getting a seat on the Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacAlert Posted October 6, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 6, 2009 I've been seeing an O7 NG driving the Q17 route but it was not in service. Hopefully Jamaica gets new buses soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted October 6, 2009 Share #13 Posted October 6, 2009 there's nothing wrong with the low floor buses. Yes their is, those things handle crowds poorly. Like on the B68 & B41 for example. Also they don't hold as many people as an high floor bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted October 6, 2009 Share #14 Posted October 6, 2009 Yes their is, those things handle crowds poorly. Like on the B68 & B41 for example. Also they don't hold as many people as an high floor bus. he's absolutely right. you should see the low floors when their crowded. low floor bus = FAIL well then again at least i get the bus fan window on the orion 7's when its moderately crowded lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted October 6, 2009 Share #15 Posted October 6, 2009 NGs already? Looks like my new ride is here. :cool: But really, Jamaica do need some of these new buses to replace some of their Nova fleets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted October 6, 2009 Share #16 Posted October 6, 2009 I'm hoping it means their '99 Novas are sent over to ENY and other Brooklyn depots HELL NO, Let those 1999 Nova's stay, I heard they are going to send the remainer of the 9200 series RTS as well as the 8900 RTS to MTA bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfkdepot09 Posted October 6, 2009 Share #17 Posted October 6, 2009 I've been seeing an O7 NG driving the Q17 route but it was not in service. Hopefully Jamaica gets new buses soon.I think that may had a school run on the 17....I'm not sure.........but I like low floors sure it gets pack.. most time ........well 80% of the time its when people don't wanna step up the stairs...that's all .....those ngs will be well kept there.....so iguess the next thing is wat about qv depot......... ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted October 6, 2009 Share #18 Posted October 6, 2009 I think that may had a school run on the 17....I'm not sure.........but I like low floors sure it gets pack.. most time ........well 80% of the time its when people don't wanna step up the stairs...that's all .....those ngs will be well kept there.....so iguess the next thing is wat about qv depot......... ..... QV isn't slated to get NGs. yet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted October 7, 2009 Share #19 Posted October 7, 2009 Please keep the NG/Hybrid away from Jamaica. I like getting a seat on the Q85, not being cramped in some two level monstrosity. Jamaica is the last refuge from the Hybrids. Lets keep it that way. he's absolutely right. you should see the low floors when their crowded. low floor bus = FAIL well then again at least i get the bus fan window on the orion 7's when its moderately crowded lol 99% OF THE TIME there are seats in the back of a low-floor bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted October 7, 2009 Share #20 Posted October 7, 2009 I just passed Jamaica Depot on the Q85 and there is an NG in the yard towards the back up against the fence, I was too far away and going too fast to see the number. That bus should be there for training; it is probably a loaner from Casey Stengel, Kingsbridge, or JFK. In order of units, JAM is about 20 units away (the order is into the 441x now). Jamaica NEEDS those NGs; it has been 10 years since they got a new bus (that area also had to wait 10 years between 1986 and 1996 for a new bus). This would leave Ulmer Park, Eastchester, and College Point as the only garages in the MTA bus system with no low-floor buses (although low-floor CNGs are in the pipeline for CP next year or 2011). The only time I have seen problems is when one is on a normally articulated route. Jamaica is slated for 19 now and then 33 after a pause in the order, and then also a later batch, possibly to finish the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43 Floral Park Posted October 7, 2009 Share #21 Posted October 7, 2009 UP needs new buses badly. Putting new designation signs on the 5100s does not make them any younger. As for the crowding problems I rode a NG on the Bx3 during rush hour Monday and people actually had common sense enough to move to the rear and stand/sit without the B/o having to yell at them. Once people get used to the buses it'll be fine over at JAM. I do want to see a Q30 in the height of rush hour with an NG though... and the 1999 RTS should stay there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous85 Posted October 7, 2009 Share #22 Posted October 7, 2009 That bus should be there for training; it is probably a loaner from Casey Stengel, Kingsbridge, or JFK. In order of units, JAM is about 20 units away (the order is into the 441x now). Jamaica NEEDS those NGs; it has been 10 years since they got a new bus (that area also had to wait 10 years between 1986 and 1996 for a new bus). This would leave Ulmer Park, Eastchester, and College Point as the only garages in the MTA bus system with no low-floor buses (although low-floor CNGs are in the pipeline for CP next year or 2011). The only time I have seen problems is when one is on a normally articulated route. Jamaica is slated for 19 now and then 33 after a pause in the order, and then also a later batch, possibly to finish the order. You are right about Jamaica needing new buses, the RTSs are getting more and more rattly and beat up and its the only depot to not have buses from this millennium. Ulmer Park should get some NGs too though, they're in the same situation as Jamaica with the aging RTSs. Jamaica has 4220 from Flatbush, I saw it parked on the sidewalk on Merrick in front of the Depot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 7, 2009 Share #23 Posted October 7, 2009 Yes their is, those things handle crowds poorly. Like on the B68 & B41 for example. Also they don't hold as many people as an high floor bus. Blame the people who refuse to use the top floor to stand, and the seating arrangement at the bottom floor which makes it clustered in the first place. Everyone uses the lower level to stand. he's absolutely right. you should see the low floors when their crowded. low floor bus = FAIL well then again at least i get the bus fan window on the orion 7's when its moderately crowded lol What in the big blue hell is a bus fan window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted October 8, 2009 Share #24 Posted October 8, 2009 Blame the people who refuse to use the top floor to stand, and the seating arrangement at the bottom floor which makes it clustered in the first place. Everyone uses the lower level to stand. Totally agreed. I still say they should've left the original configuration alone with seats in the back facing forward and 2x2 arrangements. That's a loss of 2 seats right there. I also know the MTA has always had a 2x1 arrangement for the front, but why not 2x2? If people refuses to move to the back, wouldn't less room at the front of the bus force them to move to the back as well? Looks like there are a few that oppose low floors and others that wants new buses. I'm not saying I like the hybrids over the RTS's, but I do like the acceleration and overall ride of the bus. What can I do? Flatbush runs as many if not more hybrids on the B41 now. It's not like i can afford to pass it up so I can catch an RTS. Sure it would be nice if they made the B2, B31, B49 hybrids only and leaving the RTS's for only the B41,44,46 lines. I'm just indifferent when it comes to the hybrids. And yes I've been on a crush load B41 and had to 'fight' my way thru to get to the back, but there wasn't that much room left there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted October 8, 2009 Share #25 Posted October 8, 2009 HELL NO, Let those 1999 Nova's stay, I heard they are going to send the remainer of the 9200 series RTS as well as the 8900 RTS to MTA bus. Relax, it was a joke. And well I guess if those 8900's and 9200's go to LGA, it's the end of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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