Threxx Posted April 16, 2016 Share #12251 Posted April 16, 2016 Somebody's tardy to the party. Haven't been around much lately... not surprised I missed it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12252 Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Haven't been around much lately... not surprised I missed it. No big deal if your a little late. I don't even think the R142s 6700s-7000s originally assigned for the service have updated the strip maps yet. Someone can chime in a this if I'm wrong. Haven't ridden the & in a while. Edited April 17, 2016 by jon2305 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12253 Posted April 17, 2016 Must have been a recent change: It appears that some R62As on the now have a "14 St, Manhattan" reading. Just saw a video on YT. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthe1train Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12254 Posted April 17, 2016 Do R68/A rollsigns have the Train to the Plane bullet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12255 Posted April 17, 2016 Do R68/A rollsigns have the Train to the Plane bullet? Yes they do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12256 Posted April 17, 2016 Must have been a recent change: It appears that some R62As on the now have a "14 St, Manhattan" reading. Just saw a video on YT. What's changed? From what I know, they've always (or at least for years) had a 14th Street sign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12257 Posted April 17, 2016 No big deal if your a little late. I don't even think the R142s 6700s-7000s originally assigned for the service have updated the strip maps yet. Someone can chime in a this if I'm wrong. Haven't ridden the & in a while. Almost all of the 142s assigned to the now have the updated strip maps. The from 6686-7080 still have its own maps but that's being changed soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12258 Posted April 17, 2016 Do R68/A rollsigns have the Train to the Plane bullet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12259 Posted April 17, 2016 What's changed? From what I know, they've always (or at least for years) had a 14th Street sign. Whenever trains run to 14 Street, they always roll the bottom sign to special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12260 Posted April 17, 2016 Screen Shot 2016-04-17 at 1.05.11 PM by spicker613, on Flickr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12261 Posted April 17, 2016 Why is there a to 135 St program? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12262 Posted April 17, 2016 http://s3.postimg.org/rurzteiyb/image.jpg The extension and old 42 St platform 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthe1train Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12263 Posted April 17, 2016 http://s3.postimg.org/rurzteiyb/image.jpg The extension and old 42 St platform Cool! I heard a story that the lower level of 42nd Street was built specifically to prevent the IRT from extending westward. Didn't seem to stop them this time! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junion Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12264 Posted April 17, 2016 http://s3.postimg.org/rurzteiyb/image.jpg The extension and old 42 St platform when was this pic taken 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love Trains99 Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12265 Posted April 17, 2016 Is the ever going to go down 4 Av in the future? Why did the MTA create back in 2001? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12266 Posted April 17, 2016 1. Is the ever going to go down 4 Av in the future? 2. Why did the MTA create back in 2001? 1. Never. 2. Manhattan Bridge construction cut off the from Brighton and they wanted to maintain express service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love Trains99 Posted April 17, 2016 Share #12267 Posted April 17, 2016 1. Never. 2. Manhattan Bridge construction cut off the from Brighton and they wanted to maintain express service. 1. Why won't the MTA let go to 9 Av? 2. Could the MTA used a different symbol for ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted April 18, 2016 Share #12268 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Is the ever going to go down 4 Av in the future? Why did the MTA create back in 2001? A down 4th Avenue is very unlikely. As for the , I checked out a few histrorical maps on nycsubway.org, the line was mainly created as of a result of rehab work being done on the Manhattan Bridge (which is from a result of deferred maintenance in the 1970's and most of the 80's). The and ran between the Bronx and Manhattan only (34th Street-Herald Sqaure as the southern terminal). As of a result, the was made to run between 21st Street-Queensbridge and Broadway-Laffayette Street, along with another that ran between Broadway-Laffayette and Grand Street. There was also another catch that Threxx mentioned; they wanted to maintain express service. Note that around the time the was introduced, the ran via the Montague Tubes, the and existed, the Redbirds were along with the IND/BMT SMEE's were running, and the old World Trade Center was standing months before it was destroyed by terrorists. Also, the (soon to be reactivated), ran via the Manhattan Bridge with both the and running to Coney Island via West End. It ran express along 4th Avenue. Edited April 18, 2016 by TheNewYorkElevated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted April 18, 2016 Share #12269 Posted April 18, 2016 1. Why won't the MTA let go to 9 Av? 2. Could the MTA used a different symbol for ? 1. Skip-stop synchronization with the and would be a nightmare, for one. Secondly, after superstorm Sandy, there was apparently something installed that prevents traffic from entering the Montague tubes from Nassau Street for now. Likely something to do with the storm gates they said they were going to add. The former issue is far more prevalent and isn't temporary. It's not happening as long as skip-stop service exists (which isn't going away anytime soon). 2. ...yes? Why does it matter? They were already using diamond symbols on the / so a route that was literally just a but express in an outer borough only made sense to be labeled similarly. So yeah, they could have used a different symbol, but what would be the point? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love Trains99 Posted April 18, 2016 Share #12270 Posted April 18, 2016 1. Skip-stop synchronization with the and would be a nightmare, for one. Secondly, after superstorm Sandy, there was apparently something installed that prevents traffic from entering the Montague tubes from Nassau Street for now. Likely something to do with the storm gates they said they were going to add. The former issue is far more prevalent and isn't temporary. It's not happening as long as skip-stop service exists (which isn't going away anytime soon). 2. ...yes? Why does it matter? They were already using diamond symbols on the / so a route that was literally just a but express in an outer borough only made sense to be labeled similarly. So yeah, they could have used a different symbol, but what would be the point? The MTA should eliminate the Skip Stop it's useless anyway's. And the Ridership ends at Fulton St. needs assistance with 4 Av. And the Nassau St line is the only solution to solve that problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted April 18, 2016 Share #12271 Posted April 18, 2016 The MTA should eliminate the Skip Stop it's useless anyway's. And the Ridership ends at Fulton St. needs assistance with 4 Av. And the Nassau St line is the only solution to solve that problem. Do you use the ? Don't say something's useless if you have no experience with it... Consider how many stops there are heading out to Jamaica. The skip-stop speeds up service and makes using the coming from Kew Gardens and Jamaica more viable. (As opposed to using the , which is express over Queens Blvd). Considering the is being restored relatively soon, one could have trains run to 9th Avenue at rush hours if the demand is that pressing. I doubt that will happen anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love Trains99 Posted April 18, 2016 Share #12272 Posted April 18, 2016 Do you use the ? Don't say something's useless if you have no experience with it... Consider how many stops there are heading out to Jamaica. The skip-stop speeds up service and makes using the coming from Kew Gardens and Jamaica more viable. (As opposed to using the , which is express over Queens Blvd). Considering the is being restored relatively soon, one could have trains run to 9th Avenue at rush hours if the demand is that pressing. I doubt that will happen anyway. has no equipment to go to 9 Av. Far it will go is Whitehall St. I would assume that the would go down 4 Av if the demands is too high. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted April 18, 2016 Share #12273 Posted April 18, 2016 has no equipment to go to 9 Av. Far it will go is Whitehall St. I would assume that the would go down 4 Av if the demands is too high. The doesn't have the equipment but the does? Please. The already goes down 4th Avenue, unless you're suggesting runs to 95th Street... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love Trains99 Posted April 18, 2016 Share #12274 Posted April 18, 2016 The doesn't have the equipment but the does? Please. The already goes down 4th Avenue, unless you're suggesting runs to 95th Street... can run solo. I meant can run local once it gets to Barclay's Center. Why would the go to 95 St? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted April 18, 2016 Share #12275 Posted April 18, 2016 can run solo. I meant can run local once it gets to Barclay's Center. Why would the go to 95 St? We already established that service is necessary, and if you're suggesting reducing TPH to Queens for 9th Avenue service then you seriously need to re-evaluate things. And what would local service do but increase unreliability on yet another route? Plus, that does nothing to help the Montague tubes or Lower Manhattan service. to Brooklyn is the only real solution here. You can take 1-2 trains off of the and to support rush hour 9th Avenue service, since neither of those routes have as severe of an unreliability issue as the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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