Eric B Posted July 29, 2011 Share #126 Posted July 29, 2011 This sounds good, but I'd swap the Q18 and Q45/47 south of Calamus Avenue... - Q18 via 80th Street to either Atlas Park or Myrtle Avenue. - Q45/47 becomes a "69th Street Crosstown" and is extended initially to Metropolitan Av , then later to Ridgewood Terminal. I had looked into that, but I don't know if the people along on Calamus and beyond would want that. You're taking the direct access to the Jackson Heights hub away from them, and while you may be giving them Woodside LIRR in its stead, they might want it the way it is. I had even ridden on it awhile ago, to see if perhaps it was low ridership enough that it wouldn't matter, but while it may be nearly empty at times in the evening, there do seem to be a lot of people rush hours. The Q18 would still serve Astoria, but instead of running along Woodside Av, it would run on Roosevelt AV to connect to the Queens Blvd express lines. I don't understand what you're suggesting. You say Roosevelt instead of Woodside, but you had said 75th, Woodside and then 69th. It's on Woodside when coming from Astoria, and then it ends up on 69th. 75th is way after it turns off towards Maspeth. Are you suggesting it continues down Roosevelt, out of the way to 74th terminal, and then backtrack down Roosevelt to 69th? Even then, when would it still run on Woodside, in that case? A currently unserved section between 69th and 75th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotb16 Posted July 29, 2011 Share #127 Posted July 29, 2011 I had looked into that, but I don't know if the people along on Calamus and beyond would want that. You're taking the direct access to the Jackson Heights hub away from them, and while you may be giving them Woodside LIRR in its stead, they might want it the way it is. I had even ridden on it awhile ago, to see if perhaps it was low ridership enough that it wouldn't matter, but while it may be nearly empty at times in the evening, there do seem to be a lot of people rush hours. I don't understand what you're suggesting. You say Roosevelt instead of Woodside, but you had said 75th, Woodside and then 69th. It's on Woodside when coming from Astoria, and then it ends up on 69th. 75th is way after it turns off towards Maspeth. Are you suggesting it continues down Roosevelt, out of the way to 74th terminal, and then backtrack down Roosevelt to 69th? Even then, when would it still run on Woodside, in that case? A currently unserved section between 69th and 75th? It would do this when traveling between Astoria and Maspeth (if the Q18 becomes a 69th St Xtown): 58th St, Roosevelt Av, 75th St (to serve the Jackson Heights terminal), then turns on Woodside Av, then 69th St. It backtracks via Woodside Av between 75th and 69th Sts so that Maspeth (and some Middle Village and Ridgewood) riders could access the Jackson Heights terminal and not lose access to Woodside LIRR and the in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted July 29, 2011 Share #128 Posted July 29, 2011 It will be known as the Q-47 to Atlas Park Mall. Get your pics while the Q-45 is still here before its to late!!!!! BTW, This will begin starting the fall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 29, 2011 Share #129 Posted July 29, 2011 I would simply leave the 45/47 ending at atlas, and extend the 18 down 69th to Metropolitan av subway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted July 30, 2011 Share #130 Posted July 30, 2011 The Q18 would still serve Astoria, but instead of running along Woodside Av, it would run on Roosevelt AV to connect to the Queens Blvd express lines. don't add extra time to this rte plz this rte does NOT NEED JACKSON HEIGHTS!!!!!! The subway is there for a reason. Plus the Q18 if excellent for reaching the LIRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotb16 Posted July 30, 2011 Share #131 Posted July 30, 2011 don't add extra time to this rte plz this rte does NOT NEED JACKSON HEIGHTS!!!!!! The subway is there for a reason. Plus the Q18 if excellent for reaching the LIRR The Q18 going to Jackson Heights would not just add more bus connections, but Maspeth riders would now be able to access the express lines, something they currently don't have. This could take a few more riders off the crowded Q58 and Q59 lines on Grand Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 30, 2011 Share #132 Posted July 30, 2011 The Q18 going to Jackson Heights would not just add more bus connections, but Maspeth riders would now be able to access the express lines, something they currently don't have. This could take a few more riders off the crowded Q58 and Q59 lines on Grand Avenue. aren't you the same person that wanted to extend that route into ridgewood though.... How much more you wanna to do w/ this route, fam? I agree w/ QJT, keep the 18 on Woodside av where it currently travels along... no sense in making 18's circulate the area like that; especially along an el..... the reason of giving maspeth riders E/F service isn't enough to have a route do all that..... w/e maspeth riders that want the or can take the 67 to court sq., or take the 18 itself to the to 74th for the E/F...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotb16 Posted July 31, 2011 Share #133 Posted July 31, 2011 aren't you the same person that wanted to extend that route into ridgewood though.... How much more you wanna to do w/ this route, fam? I agree w/ QJT, keep the 18 on Woodside av where it currently travels along... no sense in making 18's circulate the area like that; especially along an el..... the reason of giving maspeth riders E/F service isn't enough to have a route do all that..... w/e maspeth riders that want the or can take the 67 to court sq., or take the 18 itself to the to 74th for the E/F...... I only proposed this as a reply to a previous post's idea of swapping the Q47 and Q18's southern ends (with the Q47 down 69th St and the Q18 to Glendale). As in my ideas for the Q18, Q47, and other West Queens routes, I haven't changed them yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The TransitMan Posted July 31, 2011 Share #134 Posted July 31, 2011 Q38 should be broken up into 2 separate routes; the loop is what makes it easier/justifiable to run less service on that route.... It's also one of the main reasons why the Q58 bears the most responsibility (as far as bus service goes) in that part of Queens.... At one point, it was two separate routes I think. The Q38 from Ridgewood to LeFrak City via and the OLD Q50 (I think...can someone help me out on this one) ran from Ridgewood to Rego Park. I like your idea of breaking them up into two routes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 31, 2011 Share #135 Posted July 31, 2011 It would do this when traveling between Astoria and Maspeth (if the Q18 becomes a 69th St Xtown): 58th St, Roosevelt Av, 75th St (to serve the Jackson Heights terminal), then turns on Woodside Av, then 69th St. It backtracks via Woodside Av between 75th and 69th Sts so that Maspeth (and some Middle Village and Ridgewood) riders could access the Jackson Heights terminal and not lose access to Woodside LIRR and the in the process. I think those routes should be straightened; not adding more kinks to them. The 45 (or 47 now) would have to be worked into the plan to keep the access to the Roosevelt hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 31, 2011 Share #136 Posted July 31, 2011 The Q18 going to Jackson Heights would not just add more bus connections, but Maspeth riders would now be able to access the express lines, something they currently don't have. This could take a few more riders off the crowded Q58 and Q59 lines on Grand Avenue. While I do agree with that, extending the Q18 into Jackson Heights would bring on way too many buses going in and out of that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotb16 Posted July 31, 2011 Share #137 Posted July 31, 2011 While I do agree with that, extending the Q18 into Jackson Heights would bring on way too many buses going in and out of that area. Good point. Traffic was unbearable yesterday with an Indian festival closing off 75th Street. It seems like in Jackson Heights, if one street closes (even if it is the smallest side street), traffic becomes a nightmare thanks to the ethnic shopping strips in the community (Little India on 74th St and Little Colombia on 82nd St come to mind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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