Orion VII 4 Life Posted June 2, 2013 Share #1176 Posted June 2, 2013 They will shut the tube for 2 weekends (June 15th-16th) (June 23rd-24th) sending the via the line both directions. I've been hearing rumors about a complete shutdown of the tunnel for a pretty long amount of time very soon. They rushed the repairs after Sandy and this is what doing that left us with. Ah so THAT explains why my make a cross-platform connection with an tonight at 34 St..... Shit, had a feeling that was gonna happen but didn't bother checking it out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted June 2, 2013 Share #1177 Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) Unbelievable rides on the and today. Went down to Atlantic both ways, the first time I took the down and it didn't take too long but we were slow moving the whole way, I got off at Court and took the from there. On the way back up on the , we were absolutely crushloaded (mostly with people coming from the beach) and spend a good half hour stopped at DeKalb, and 10-15 minutes at the other stations, along with the slow moving. Folks were saying the delays were going all the way back to Coney Island and it took them 3 HOURS to get up to Downtown Brooklyn from there. Why the hell did this GO happen? Were repairs on the bridge that important that they had to send both the and through a tunnel they know has major signal problems in both directions? I hate to say it as an rider (where service already sucks bad), but that tunnel shutdown needs to happen. The above sounds like a lot of exacterating.3 hours from Coney Island to Downtown Brooklyn. and was the train really stuck at dekalb for 30 min? thats crazy! Should have went out and took another train nearby.or went back to atlantic.In any case any train besides the and into manhattan will do this weekend. Edited June 2, 2013 by Abba 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted June 2, 2013 Share #1178 Posted June 2, 2013 The above sounds like a lot of exacterating.3 hours from Coney Island to Downtown Brooklyn. and was the train really stuck at dekalb for 30 min? thats crazy! Should have went out and took another train nearby.or went back to atlantic.In any case any train besides the and into manhattan will do this weekend.Don't know how true CI-downtown taking 3 hours was, I can only say what I experienced myself is true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted June 2, 2013 Share #1179 Posted June 2, 2013 Yeah that sounds about right. Most of the 's were actually getting turned back at Atlantic or Prospect Park, and every time I went up or down 4th Ave, there was an or holding at EVERY station I passed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted June 2, 2013 Share #1180 Posted June 2, 2013 I'm just going to throw this out there. Since there are signal/mechanical problems at Whitehall and/or Court Sts on a daily basis for the most part, wouldn't it make more sense that, until these problems are completely rectified, the Q trains run via 6th Avenue to 57 St/6 Av the next time the south side of the bridge is completely shut down? Look, I know that 57/6 is not a terminal station and all that, but if they could turn trains there for FASTRACK or whenever they need the M to run to Manhattan for the weekend, they should be able to turn a few Q trains as well. This is the second weekend where the Broadway tracks of the Manhattan Bridge were closed off and traffic was so slow on the Broadway line because of said recurring problems that riders could've possibly walked the length of the line and gotten to their destinations faster. On that note, I've said it before and I'll say it again: I can't stand it when conductors hide behind the automated announcements. I know that sometimes you guys dont get much info either, but if the train is at or near a transfer point, it might be a good idea to tell riders to hop over to other lines, especially if the train hasn't been moving all that much for an extended period of time. Playing the "delay-dispatcher" or "delay-train traffic" announcement several times in rapid succession is not helpful in the slightest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediccjh Posted June 2, 2013 Share #1181 Posted June 2, 2013 Why the hell did this GO happen? Were repairs on the bridge that important that they had to send both the and through a tunnel they know has major signal problems in both directions? SKANSKA is doing work on the bridge that inhibits the flow of northbound train service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted June 2, 2013 Share #1182 Posted June 2, 2013 On that note, I've said it before and I'll say it again: I can't stand it when conductors hide behind the automated announcements. I know that sometimes you guys dont get much info either, but if the train is at or near a transfer point, it might be a good idea to tell riders to hop over to other lines, especially if the train hasn't been moving all that much for an extended period of time. Playing the "delay-dispatcher" or "delay-train traffic" announcement several times in rapid succession is not helpful in the slightest. .... on the other hand, NOTHING makes the pax more angry with us than making an announcement that turns out to be false. When we don't know EXACTLY what is going on, it's often better to say nothing rather than make something up or make a guess. Whenever a and come into Canal St side by side, or a and at 59 St, the customers immediately run up to us and ask who is leaving first, before we even know ourselves. Lately I've just been saying "I don't know yet" rather than try to make an assumption. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itmaybeokay Posted June 3, 2013 Share #1183 Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 2nd 9:55 pm Due to signal problems at Court St, some trains are running via the line from Dekalb to W4 st, then via the line from W4 st to 36st (qns). That is one hell of a reroute. The signals in montague really need to be totally ripped out, huh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted June 3, 2013 Share #1184 Posted June 3, 2013 When they know they are having major capacity/signal problems in the Montague St tunnel, I'm not sure why they choose to send three trains thru the tunnel this weekend. Smarter thing to do would have been to reroute the R via the D from DeKalb to Broadway-Lafayette, then via the M or F to Queens. There have certainly been reliability problems with the Montague signals, but I'm not aware of any capacity issues. The control lines of the signals haven't been changed. On that note, I've said it before and I'll say it again: I can't stand it when conductors hide behind the automated announcements. I know that sometimes you guys dont get much info either, but if the train is at or near a transfer point, it might be a good idea to tell riders to hop over to other lines, especially if the train hasn't been moving all that much for an extended period of time. Playing the "delay-dispatcher" or "delay-train traffic" announcement several times in rapid succession is not helpful in the slightest. I agree 200%. There are a lot of knowledgeable riders who can reroute themselves past a nasty delay - but only if they know that there is a delay, and where exactly it is. I don't like getting stuck in a delay of any sort, but it's particularly annoying when I could have easily saved 20 minutes had I only known about it. Sometimes it's as simple as taking the local instead of the express. Posted June 2nd 9:55 pm Due to signal problems at Court St, some trains are running via the line from Dekalb to W4 st, then via the line from W4 st to 36st (qns). That is one hell of a reroute. The signals in montague really need to be totally ripped out, huh? http://www.mta.info/nyct/procure/contracts/55466pb.pdf Oddly, signals don't seem to be mentioned at all! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itmaybeokay Posted June 3, 2013 Share #1185 Posted June 3, 2013 Just Posted (11:30 Am Monday) Northbound and via Montague because of a smoke condition at Dekalb. (and que the "signal problems at court st" in 3...2...) Northbound B trains short-turning at Prospect Park. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted June 3, 2013 Share #1186 Posted June 3, 2013 Just Posted (11:30 Am Monday) Northbound and via Montague because of a smoke condition at Dekalb. (and que the "signal problems at court st" in 3...2...) Northbound B trains short-turning at Prospect Park. Lol! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1187 Posted June 4, 2013 Just Posted (11:30 Am Monday) Northbound and via Montague because of a smoke condition at Dekalb. (and que the "signal problems at court st" in 3...2...) Northbound B trains short-turning at Prospect Park. That actually happened during rush hour: first signal problems at court and then signal problems on Manhattan Bridge, both Brooklyn-Bound. What a mess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1188 Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) Cue the montague signal problems in 3...2...1... @NYCTSubwayScoop: #ServAdv: s/b, #R trains are delayed, due to signal problems at Whitehall St. Allow additional travel time. Edited June 4, 2013 by Abba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itmaybeokay Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1189 Posted June 4, 2013 That actually happened during rush hour: first signal problems at court and then signal problems on Manhattan Bridge, both Brooklyn-Bound. What a mess. Yeah I saw that. I was going to remark that they were a few hours late to the party but did not miss the opportunity to say hello. Cue the montague signal problems in 3...2...1... @NYCTSubwayScoop: #ServAdv: s/b, #R trains are delayed, due to signal problems at Whitehall St. Allow additional travel time. Serious question though: I know the basics of signaling, track circuits, relay boxes, stop arms, etc, but does anyone know specifically what's failing in Montague? Is it just different components all the time, water damaged by ocean flooding, that are now failing at a higher rate than normal (e.g: every day)? Or is there a specific system or circuit that is just having reliability issues? I'm curious because the MTA's preliminary solicitation for Montague contract work linked by AndrewJC above, as he notes, doesn't mention anything about signal repair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32sdabest Posted June 4, 2013 Share #1190 Posted June 4, 2013 There was a stalled Manhattan bound train t Jackson Heights Roosevelt Avenue this morning causing delays on Manhattan bound and trains. I was stuck on an R46 train when I heard it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdrive1 Posted June 5, 2013 Share #1191 Posted June 5, 2013 Seem to be problems springing up all across the system! Service Change Posted: 06/05/2013 10:57AM Due to signal problems at 57 St-7 Av, the following detours are in effect: Some northbound trains are running on the line from Atlantic Av-Barclays Center to W 4 St then running on the line to Roosevelt Av-Jackson Heights. Some northbound and and trains are terminating at 42 St-Times Square. Allow additional travel time. Delays Posted: 06/05/2013 10:51AMFollowing an earlier incident at Simpson St, southbound train service has resumed with delays. Service Change Posted: 06/05/2013 10:04AM Due to signal problems at Flatbush Av-Brooklyn College, the following service changes are in effect: Some southbound trains terminate at 42 St-Times Sq. Some southbound trains terminate at Bowling Green. Allow additional travel time. Delays Posted: 06/05/2013 10:02AMDue to signal problems at Junction Blvd, expect delays in Main St-bound train service. Allow additional travel time. Delays Posted: 06/05/2013 10:04AM Due to signal problems at Broadway Junction, northbound trains are running with delays. Allow additional travel time. Delays Posted: 06/05/2013 10:01AM Due to signal problems at Ft. Hamilton Pkwy, expect delays in northbound and train service. Allow additional travel time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32sdabest Posted June 5, 2013 Share #1192 Posted June 5, 2013 Due to signal problems at Court St, expect delays in southbound train service. Delays Posted: 06/05/2013 4:39PM Following an earlier incident at Jay St, & train service has resumed with residual delays. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted June 5, 2013 Share #1193 Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Seem to be problems springing up all across the system! Service Change Posted: 06/05/2013 10:57AM Due to signal problems at 57 St-7 Av, the following detours are in effect: Some northbound trains are running on the line from Atlantic Av-Barclays Center to W 4 St then running on the line to Roosevelt Av-Jackson Heights. Well, that means this is the route: Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center Grand Street Broadway-Lafayette West 4th Street-Washington Square 14th Street 23rd Street 34th Street-Herald Square 42nd Street-Bryant Park 47th-50th Streets-Rockerfeller Center 57th Street 63rd Street-Lexington Avenue Roosevelt Island 21st Street-Queensbridge Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Avenue Very interesting. Edited June 5, 2013 by lupojohn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1194 Posted June 6, 2013 SKANSKA is doing work on the bridge that inhibits the flow of northbound train service. And with the recent announcement that the Montague tube is going to be closed for over a year, any GO's on the Broadway side of the bridge that don't get done soon will have to wait until late 2014. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1195 Posted June 6, 2013 Though if the DOT calls for an(other) inspection of the south tracks, Transit will have no choice but to split the N and run the Q up 6th Avenue. They have to make sure everything's on the up and up on that span or we'll all be up a creek without a paddle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdrive1 Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1196 Posted June 6, 2013 Service Change Posted: 06/06/2013 1:09PM Due to FDNY activity at Lexington Av-59 St, northbound trains are via the line from 57 St-7 Av to 36 St (Queens). Northbound and trains will terminate at 57 St-7 Av. Allow additional travel time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1197 Posted June 6, 2013 I was in that. I took the from 42nd Street-6 Avenue to Queensbridge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted June 8, 2013 Share #1198 Posted June 8, 2013 Northbound trains are terminating at Nereid Avenue due to signal problems at 241st Street-Wakefield. Allow additional travel time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itmaybeokay Posted June 10, 2013 Share #1199 Posted June 10, 2013 Posted: 06/09/2013 11:00PMDue to a police investigation at Church Av: Northbound train service running express from Church Av to Jay St- MetroTech. No train service between Church Av and Court Sq in both directions. Allow additional travel time. Really ? A Police Investigation at one of the terminals so you suspend an Entire Line? You could short-turn the at Bedford Nostrand, or at Smith 9th. Suspending the entire line just short-changes a whole lot of people for not a lot of reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted June 10, 2013 Share #1200 Posted June 10, 2013 Service Change Posted: 06/09/2013 11:21PM Due to a police investigation at Church Av: Northbound [F] train service running express from Church Av to Jay St- MetroTech. [G] train service running in both directions between Bergen St and Court Sq. No [G] train service between Church Av and Court Sq in both directions. Allow additional travel time. Uhh...what's really happening here? Someone isn't proofreading. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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