R3216068E Posted June 22, 2015 Share #1 Posted June 22, 2015 Here are some R68 and R68A pics which subway car do you like better R68s or R 68As? IMO I like the R68s better because they have better brakes R68 interior R68A interior R68/68A pics What are some R68/R68A differences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted June 22, 2015 Share #2 Posted June 22, 2015 Fleet numbers is a big one. The positioning of the rollsign has always been a tell-tale sign for me - except for some of the higher numbered R68s, their roll signs are set lower down than on the R68As. Compare your last and second last photos. I prefer R68As, they didn't suck when they came online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted June 22, 2015 Share #3 Posted June 22, 2015 Your question about the differences between the two car types are all answered on Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted June 22, 2015 Fleet numbers is a big one. The positioning of the rollsign has always been a tell-tale sign for me - except for some of the higher numbered R68s, their roll signs are set lower down than on the R68As. Compare your last and second last photos. I prefer R68As, they didn't suck when they came online. The R68As do look better but I like the R68s better because they have better brakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missabassie Posted June 23, 2015 Share #5 Posted June 23, 2015 R68A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q113 LTD Posted June 23, 2015 Share #6 Posted June 23, 2015 R68 begins with 2xxx and R68A begins with 5xxx. That's the only way I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted June 23, 2015 Share #7 Posted June 23, 2015 I hate both of them quite frankly, but I can tolerate the ones with the non greasy poles. Those tend to be on the . The older cars are usually on the . The announcements on both seem to kill my ears (too loud and garbled) and there's an annoying buzzing noise from the PA. They also rock back and forth too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted June 23, 2015 Share #8 Posted June 23, 2015 Actually, it's the younger cars that provide service on the . The R68As (1988-1989) hold down service on that line, while the R68s (1986-1988) provide service on the . Does anyone know why New York's cars rock back and forth so much? I have never been in any other metro system that can compare. That includes NTTs, in Toronto I have been on older cars going at much higher speeds and the train was fairly stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted June 23, 2015 Share #9 Posted June 23, 2015 Actually, it's the younger cars that provide service on the . The R68As (1988-1989) hold down service on that line, while the R68s (1986-1988) provide service on the . Does anyone know why New York's cars rock back and forth so much? I have never been in any other metro system that can compare. That includes NTTs, in Toronto I have been on older cars going at much higher speeds and the train was fairly stable. The only cars that rock like that ironically are the R68's. It's barely noticable on the newer cars. It's odd that those cars on the are newer because they don't seem like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 23, 2015 Share #10 Posted June 23, 2015 Cab door swings on the 68, slides on the 68A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted June 23, 2015 Share #11 Posted June 23, 2015 The only cars that rock like that ironically are the R68's. It's barely noticable on the newer cars. It's odd that those cars on the are newer because they don't seem like it. I dunno, I've been on swaying R32s, R46s, R62As, and R160s. I actually didn't notice the rocking on the R68s, go figure. Are the interiors of the R68As in worse shape? From the outside, it looks like the R68As are in better shape, I've noticed a lot of R68 cars are rusting on the upper bulkhead: http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?144719 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 23, 2015 Share #12 Posted June 23, 2015 All cars rock, depending on the track conditions and the condition of the truck suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted June 23, 2015 Share #13 Posted June 23, 2015 All cars rock, depending on the track conditions and the condition of the truck suspension. But some are worse than others. The new ones rock too, but it's far less noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted June 23, 2015 Share #14 Posted June 23, 2015 But some are worse than others. The new ones rock too, but it's far less noticeable. Airbag (NTT) vs. traditional spring (everythjng else) suspension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted June 23, 2015 Share #15 Posted June 23, 2015 I miss the 1986-88 style roll signs on both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share #16 Posted June 24, 2015 I miss the 1986-88 style roll signs on both I do to that's what I loved about them back in the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share #17 Posted June 24, 2015 The R68s did use to be known as lemons when they first got here because significant system integration problems. Inadequate communication and coordination between the carbody builder (ANF Industrie) and the chassis assembler (Westinghouse) led to operational failures of the R68s but the eventually found solutions to their problem they have R62a motors and trucks because the original ones had cracks on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted June 24, 2015 Share #18 Posted June 24, 2015 The air release is also different. The 68 sounds like a R62A, and the 68A sounds like a 62. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 24, 2015 Share #19 Posted June 24, 2015 The air release is also different. The 68 sounds like a R62A, and the 68A sounds like a 62. This is expected, since the respective cars share the same brake equipment (68 & 62A - NYAB; 68A & 62 - WABCO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted June 26, 2015 Share #20 Posted June 26, 2015 Coney Island R68 >>>>>> CCY R68 >>>>>> R68A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted June 29, 2015 Share #21 Posted June 29, 2015 Cab door swings on the 68, slides on the 68A. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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