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UPDATE ON THE R211S AS OF 4/18/24

R211s in service

R211A: 130 cars, or 13 10-car trains, all trains currently run on the (A) line

4060-69, pilot,

4070-74, 4125-29

4075-79, 4120-24

4080-89

4090-99

4100-04, 4130-34

4105-09, 4190-94

4110-14, 4140-44

4115-19, 4135-39

4145-49, 4165-69

4160-64, 4195-99

4170-79

4180-89

R211T: 20 cars, or 2 10-car trains, all trains currently run on the (C) line

4040-49

4050-59

Total amount of R211s in service: 150

Other consists not in service yet

R211A:

4150-59, At Jamaica Yard

4200-09, BIT'd a bit ago

4210-19, BIT'd more recently then 4200-09

4220-34, Delivered recently, at CIY and Pitkin respectively

R211S:

100-104, no words

Total amount of NIS R211s: 50

Notes: Back on schedule! All previously in service R211s are back on the tracks after a ~6 month hiatus with these issues! Now let's just hope this doesn't happen again any sooner.

R211 Deliveries

R211A: 4060-4234, 175 cars or 17 10-car sets and 1 5-car set; Pretty much every set at Pitkin

R211T: 4040-4059, 20 cars or 2 10-car sets; all at Pitkin

R211S: 100-104, 5 cars or 1 5-car set; set at Clifton

Total number of cars delivered: 200

Notes: The fact that there's still 335 more cars to be delivered to the city just in the abse order kills me.

R211s confirmed as built

Alleged results included...

R211A: 4235-4314, 80 cars or 8 10-car sets (4235-89 most likely built since there's someone here that we can all rely on; 4290-4314 allegedly built)

R211S: 105-134, 30 cars or 6 5-car sets (115-134 allegedly built)

Total cars built and not delivered: 110

Notes: Just hope these are confirmed by September. And if they are, we are just one step closer to completing the Base Order, except there's still maybe around 1,000 more that need to be built if they are confirmed by the MTA themselves

Add that up with the delivered cars and you get...

255 R211As (4060-4314);  under construction + 640 from Option Order I and God knows what from Option Order II

20 R211Ts (4040-4059); completed

35 R211Ss (100-134); 40 under construction

310 R211s in total, (100-134, 4040-4314)

Yet any Pitkin Pullmans retired...good for them.

Notes: Well, damn.

R211 Delivery timeline

4060-4064: June 29-30, 2021

4065-4069: July 15-16, 2021

4040-4044: November 1-2, 2022

4045-4049: November 15-16, 2022

4050-4054: January 26-27, 2023

4070-4074: March 16, 2023

4075-4079: March 28-29, 2023

4080-4084: April 5-6, 2023

4085-4089: April 25-26, 2023

100-104: May 3-4, 2023

4055-4059: June 7-8, 2023

4095-4099: June 21, 2023

4120-4124: June 27-28, 2023

4110-4114: July 18-19, 2023

4090-4094: July 19-20, 2023

4125-4129: August 9, 2023

4115-4119: August 10, 2023

4100-4104: August 17, 2023

4105-4109: August 22-23, 2023

4130-4134: August 29-20, 2023

4140-4144: September 12-13, 2023

4135-4139: September 14, 2023

4145-4149: September 20-21, 2023

4150-4154: September 27, 2023

4155-4159: October 3-4, 2023

4160-4164: October 18-19, 2023

4165-4169: January 23, 2024

4195-4199: January 25, 2024

4190-4194: February 1, 2024

4170-4174: February 7-8, 2024

4175-4179: February 14, 2024

4180-4184: February 27, 2024

 

4185-4189: February 29, 2024

4205-4209: February 29, 2024

4200-4204: March 13, 2024

4205-4209: March 14, 2024

4210-4214: March 26, 2024

4215-4219: April 3, 2024

4220-4224: April 9, 2024

4225-4229: April 11, 2024

4230-4234: April 17,2024

Notes: No time to stop.

R211 In service Timeline

4060-64, 4065-69: March 10, 2023

4070-74, 4075-79: June 29, 2023

4085-89, 4095-99: August 3, 2023

4080-84, 4120-24: August 17, 2023

4090-94, 4125-29: September 7, 2023

4110-14, 4115-19: September 14, 2023

4100-04, 4105-09: October 5, 2023

4130-34, 4135-39: November 3, 2023

4040-44, 4050-54: February 1, 2024

4045-49, 4055-59: February 5, 2024

4145-49, 4165-69: February 12, 2024

4140-44, 4160-64: February 27, 2024

4190-94, 4195-99: March 5, 2024

4170-74, 4175-79: March 8, 2024

4180-84, 4185-89: April 2, 2024

Notes: You shoulda stopped reading.

But besides that, I hope you liked this! Only did it because 200 R211s are delivered! I'll do this again when ~250 R211s are delivered or when there's too much going on.

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15 minutes ago, Ale188 said:

UPDATE ON THE R211S AS OF 4/18/24

R211s in service

R211A: 130 cars, or 13 10-car trains, all trains currently run on the (A) line

4060-69, pilot,

4070-74, 4125-29

4075-79, 4120-24

4080-89

4090-99

4100-04, 4130-34

4105-09, 4190-94

4110-14, 4140-44

4115-19, 4135-39

4145-49, 4165-69

4160-64, 4195-99

4170-79

4180-89

R211T: 20 cars, or 2 10-car trains, all trains currently run on the (C) line

4040-49

4050-59

Total amount of R211s in service: 150

Other consists not in service yet

R211A:

4150-59, At Jamaica Yard

4200-09, BIT'd a bit ago

4210-19, BIT'd more recently then 4200-09

4220-34, Delivered recently, at CIY and Pitkin respectively

R211S:

100-104, no words

Total amount of NIS R211s: 50

Notes: Back on schedule! All previously in service R211s are back on the tracks after a ~6 month hiatus with these issues! Now let's just hope this doesn't happen again any sooner.

R211 Deliveries

R211A: 4060-4234, 175 cars or 17 10-car sets and 1 5-car set; Pretty much every set at Pitkin

R211T: 4040-4059, 20 cars or 2 10-car sets; all at Pitkin

R211S: 100-104, 5 cars or 1 5-car set; set at Clifton

Total number of cars delivered: 200

Notes: The fact that there's still 335 more cars to be delivered to the city just in the abse order kills me.

R211s confirmed as built

Alleged results included...

R211A: 4235-4314, 80 cars or 8 10-car sets (4235-89 most likely built since there's someone here that we can all rely on; 4290-4314 allegedly built)

R211S: 105-134, 30 cars or 6 5-car sets (115-134 allegedly built)

Total cars built and not delivered: 110

Notes: Just hope these are confirmed by September. And if they are, we are just one step closer to completing the Base Order, except there's still maybe around 1,000 more that need to be built if they are confirmed by the MTA themselves

Add that up with the delivered cars and you get...

255 R211As (4060-4314);  under construction + 640 from Option Order I and God knows what from Option Order II

20 R211Ts (4040-4059); completed

35 R211Ss (100-134); 40 under construction

310 R211s in total, (100-134, 4040-4314)

Yet any Pitkin Pullmans retired...good for them.

Notes: Well, damn.

R211 Delivery timeline

4060-4064: June 29-30, 2021

4065-4069: July 15-16, 2021

4040-4044: November 1-2, 2022

4045-4049: November 15-16, 2022

4050-4054: January 26-27, 2023

4070-4074: March 16, 2023

4075-4079: March 28-29, 2023

4080-4084: April 5-6, 2023

4085-4089: April 25-26, 2023

100-104: May 3-4, 2023

4055-4059: June 7-8, 2023

4095-4099: June 21, 2023

4120-4124: June 27-28, 2023

4110-4114: July 18-19, 2023

4090-4094: July 19-20, 2023

4125-4129: August 9, 2023

4115-4119: August 10, 2023

4100-4104: August 17, 2023

4105-4109: August 22-23, 2023

4130-4134: August 29-20, 2023

4140-4144: September 12-13, 2023

4135-4139: September 14, 2023

4145-4149: September 20-21, 2023

4150-4154: September 27, 2023

4155-4159: October 3-4, 2023

4160-4164: October 18-19, 2023

4165-4169: January 23, 2024

4195-4199: January 25, 2024

4190-4194: February 1, 2024

4170-4174: February 7-8, 2024

4175-4179: February 14, 2024

4180-4184: February 27, 2024

 

4185-4189: February 29, 2024

4205-4209: February 29, 2024

4200-4204: March 13, 2024

4205-4209: March 14, 2024

4210-4214: March 26, 2024

4215-4219: April 3, 2024

4220-4224: April 9, 2024

4225-4229: April 11, 2024

4230-4234: April 17,2024

Notes: No time to stop.

R211 In service Timeline

4060-64, 4065-69: March 10, 2023

4070-74, 4075-79: June 29, 2023

4085-89, 4095-99: August 3, 2023

4080-84, 4120-24: August 17, 2023

4090-94, 4125-29: September 7, 2023

4110-14, 4115-19: September 14, 2023

4100-04, 4105-09: October 5, 2023

4130-34, 4135-39: November 3, 2023

4040-44, 4050-54: February 1, 2024

4045-49, 4055-59: February 5, 2024

4145-49, 4165-69: February 12, 2024

4140-44, 4160-64: February 27, 2024

4190-94, 4195-99: March 5, 2024

4170-74, 4175-79: March 8, 2024

4180-84, 4185-89: April 2, 2024

Notes: You shoulda stopped reading.

But besides that, I hope you liked this! Only did it because 200 R211s are delivered! I'll do this again when ~250 R211s are delivered or when there's too much going on.

This is a hell of a long list but great job!

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2 hours ago, poopybutt123 said:

@Metro CSWDo you have any information about the production R211s as of now 

I can pretty much say that up to 4349 and 140 is within the facility. Bare in mind the Lincoln production duration ranges between 3-6 months and the shells from Kobe come in at a rate of about 3-4 per week to bi-weekly if any delays which can be random. The facility can only house a capacity with about 70-100 cars at max, inside and out to what I was told. 140 just came into the receiving line actually. The production for the base order is excepted to be completed by the end of the year latest to get the green lit for the option cars receiving in January 2025.

 

With the R44SIR finally getting processed to be scrapped, the pilot is coming closer to debut, actual has to be announced by the MTA themselves.

1 hour ago, Ale188 said:

UPDATE ON THE R211S AS OF 4/18/24

R211s in service

R211A: 130 cars, or 13 10-car trains, all trains currently run on the (A) line

4060-69, pilot,

4070-74, 4125-29

4075-79, 4120-24

4080-89

4090-99

4100-04, 4130-34

4105-09, 4190-94

4110-14, 4140-44

4115-19, 4135-39

4145-49, 4165-69

4160-64, 4195-99

4170-79

4180-89

R211T: 20 cars, or 2 10-car trains, all trains currently run on the (C) line

4040-49

4050-59

Total amount of R211s in service: 150

Other consists not in service yet

R211A:

4150-59, At Jamaica Yard

4200-09, BIT'd a bit ago

4210-19, BIT'd more recently then 4200-09

4220-34, Delivered recently, at CIY and Pitkin respectively

R211S:

100-104, no words

Total amount of NIS R211s: 50

Notes: Back on schedule! All previously in service R211s are back on the tracks after a ~6 month hiatus with these issues! Now let's just hope this doesn't happen again any sooner.

R211 Deliveries

R211A: 4060-4234, 175 cars or 17 10-car sets and 1 5-car set; Pretty much every set at Pitkin

R211T: 4040-4059, 20 cars or 2 10-car sets; all at Pitkin

R211S: 100-104, 5 cars or 1 5-car set; set at Clifton

Total number of cars delivered: 200

Notes: The fact that there's still 335 more cars to be delivered to the city just in the abse order kills me.

R211s confirmed as built

Alleged results included...

R211A: 4235-4314, 80 cars or 8 10-car sets (4235-89 most likely built since there's someone here that we can all rely on; 4290-4314 allegedly built)

R211S: 105-134, 30 cars or 6 5-car sets (115-134 allegedly built)

Total cars built and not delivered: 110

Notes: Just hope these are confirmed by September. And if they are, we are just one step closer to completing the Base Order, except there's still maybe around 1,000 more that need to be built if they are confirmed by the MTA themselves

Add that up with the delivered cars and you get...

255 R211As (4060-4314);  under construction + 640 from Option Order I and God knows what from Option Order II

20 R211Ts (4040-4059); completed

35 R211Ss (100-134); 40 under construction

310 R211s in total, (100-134, 4040-4314)

Yet any Pitkin Pullmans retired...good for them.

Notes: Well, damn.

R211 Delivery timeline

4060-4064: June 29-30, 2021

4065-4069: July 15-16, 2021

4040-4044: November 1-2, 2022

4045-4049: November 15-16, 2022

4050-4054: January 26-27, 2023

4070-4074: March 16, 2023

4075-4079: March 28-29, 2023

4080-4084: April 5-6, 2023

4085-4089: April 25-26, 2023

100-104: May 3-4, 2023

4055-4059: June 7-8, 2023

4095-4099: June 21, 2023

4120-4124: June 27-28, 2023

4110-4114: July 18-19, 2023

4090-4094: July 19-20, 2023

4125-4129: August 9, 2023

4115-4119: August 10, 2023

4100-4104: August 17, 2023

4105-4109: August 22-23, 2023

4130-4134: August 29-20, 2023

4140-4144: September 12-13, 2023

4135-4139: September 14, 2023

4145-4149: September 20-21, 2023

4150-4154: September 27, 2023

4155-4159: October 3-4, 2023

4160-4164: October 18-19, 2023

4165-4169: January 23, 2024

4195-4199: January 25, 2024

4190-4194: February 1, 2024

4170-4174: February 7-8, 2024

4175-4179: February 14, 2024

4180-4184: February 27, 2024

 

4185-4189: February 29, 2024

4205-4209: February 29, 2024

4200-4204: March 13, 2024

4205-4209: March 14, 2024

4210-4214: March 26, 2024

4215-4219: April 3, 2024

4220-4224: April 9, 2024

4225-4229: April 11, 2024

4230-4234: April 17,2024

Notes: No time to stop.

R211 In service Timeline

4060-64, 4065-69: March 10, 2023

4070-74, 4075-79: June 29, 2023

4085-89, 4095-99: August 3, 2023

4080-84, 4120-24: August 17, 2023

4090-94, 4125-29: September 7, 2023

4110-14, 4115-19: September 14, 2023

4100-04, 4105-09: October 5, 2023

4130-34, 4135-39: November 3, 2023

4040-44, 4050-54: February 1, 2024

4045-49, 4055-59: February 5, 2024

4145-49, 4165-69: February 12, 2024

4140-44, 4160-64: February 27, 2024

4190-94, 4195-99: March 5, 2024

4170-74, 4175-79: March 8, 2024

4180-84, 4185-89: April 2, 2024

Notes: You shoulda stopped reading.

But besides that, I hope you liked this! Only did it because 200 R211s are delivered! I'll do this again when ~250 R211s are delivered or when there's too much going on.

Actually consists are as follows:

4090-94 + 4115-19

4095-99 + 4135-39

100-04 still idle at Saint George Terminal (TK 11)

105-114 still at Yonkers and 115-140 are built as of today.

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24 minutes ago, Metro CSW said:

I can pretty much say that up to 4349 and 140 is within the facility. Bare in mind the Lincoln production duration ranges between 3-6 months and the shells from Kobe come in at a rate of about 3-4 per week to bi-weekly if any delays which can be random. The facility can only house a capacity with about 70-100 cars at max, inside and out to what I was told. 140 just came into the receiving line actually. The production for the base order is excepted to be completed by the end of the year latest to get the green lit for the option cars receiving in January 2025.

 

With the R44SIR finally getting processed to be scrapped, the pilot is coming closer to debut, actual has to be announced by the MTA themselves.

Actually consists are as follows:

4090-94 + 4115-19

4095-99 + 4135-39

100-04 still idle at Saint George Terminal (TK 11)

105-114 still at Yonkers and 115-140 are built as of today.

Thank You!

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53 minutes ago, Metro CSW said:

I can pretty much say that up to 4349 and 140 is within the facility. Bare in mind the Lincoln production duration ranges between 3-6 months and the shells from Kobe come in at a rate of about 3-4 per week to bi-weekly if any delays which can be random. The facility can only house a capacity with about 70-100 cars at max, inside and out to what I was told. 140 just came into the receiving line actually. The production for the base order is excepted to be completed by the end of the year latest to get the green lit for the option cars receiving in January 2025.

 

With the R44SIR finally getting processed to be scrapped, the pilot is coming closer to debut, actual has to be announced by the MTA themselves.

Actually consists are as follows:

4090-94 + 4115-19

4095-99 + 4135-39

100-04 still idle at Saint George Terminal (TK 11)

105-114 still at Yonkers and 115-140 are built as of today.

This means 350/535 R211s are built!

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12 hours ago, Metro CSW said:

I can pretty much say that up to 4349 and 140 is within the facility. Bare in mind the Lincoln production duration ranges between 3-6 months and the shells from Kobe come in at a rate of about 3-4 per week to bi-weekly if any delays which can be random. The facility can only house a capacity with about 70-100 cars at max, inside and out to what I was told. 140 just came into the receiving line actually. The production for the base order is excepted to be completed by the end of the year latest to get the green lit for the option cars receiving in January 2025.

 

With the R44SIR finally getting processed to be scrapped, the pilot is coming closer to debut, actual has to be announced by the MTA themselves.

Actually consists are as follows:

4090-94 + 4115-19

4095-99 + 4135-39

100-04 still idle at Saint George Terminal (TK 11)

105-114 still at Yonkers and 115-140 are built as of today.

Even better

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On 4/18/2024 at 5:37 PM, Ale188 said:

UPDATE ON THE R211S AS OF 4/18/24

R211s in service

R211A: 130 cars, or 13 10-car trains, all trains currently run on the (A) line

4060-69, pilot,

4070-74, 4125-29

4075-79, 4120-24

4080-89

4090-99

4100-04, 4130-34

4105-09, 4190-94

4110-14, 4140-44

4115-19, 4135-39

4145-49, 4165-69

4160-64, 4195-99

4170-79

4180-89

R211T: 20 cars, or 2 10-car trains, all trains currently run on the (C) line

4040-49

4050-59

Total amount of R211s in service: 150

Other consists not in service yet

R211A:

4150-59, At Jamaica Yard

4200-09, BIT'd a bit ago

4210-19, BIT'd more recently then 4200-09

4220-34, Delivered recently, at CIY and Pitkin respectively

R211S:

100-104, no words

Total amount of NIS R211s: 50

Notes: Back on schedule! All previously in service R211s are back on the tracks after a ~6 month hiatus with these issues! Now let's just hope this doesn't happen again any sooner.

R211 Deliveries

R211A: 4060-4234, 175 cars or 17 10-car sets and 1 5-car set; Pretty much every set at Pitkin

R211T: 4040-4059, 20 cars or 2 10-car sets; all at Pitkin

R211S: 100-104, 5 cars or 1 5-car set; set at Clifton

Total number of cars delivered: 200

Notes: The fact that there's still 335 more cars to be delivered to the city just in the abse order kills me.

R211s confirmed as built

Alleged results included...

R211A: 4235-4314, 80 cars or 8 10-car sets (4235-89 most likely built since there's someone here that we can all rely on; 4290-4314 allegedly built)

R211S: 105-134, 30 cars or 6 5-car sets (115-134 allegedly built)

Total cars built and not delivered: 110

Notes: Just hope these are confirmed by September. And if they are, we are just one step closer to completing the Base Order, except there's still maybe around 1,000 more that need to be built if they are confirmed by the MTA themselves

Add that up with the delivered cars and you get...

255 R211As (4060-4314);  under construction + 640 from Option Order I and God knows what from Option Order II

20 R211Ts (4040-4059); completed

35 R211Ss (100-134); 40 under construction

310 R211s in total, (100-134, 4040-4314)

Yet any Pitkin Pullmans retired...good for them.

Notes: Well, damn.

R211 Delivery timeline

4060-4064: June 29-30, 2021

4065-4069: July 15-16, 2021

4040-4044: November 1-2, 2022

4045-4049: November 15-16, 2022

4050-4054: January 26-27, 2023

4070-4074: March 16, 2023

4075-4079: March 28-29, 2023

4080-4084: April 5-6, 2023

4085-4089: April 25-26, 2023

100-104: May 3-4, 2023

4055-4059: June 7-8, 2023

4095-4099: June 21, 2023

4120-4124: June 27-28, 2023

4110-4114: July 18-19, 2023

4090-4094: July 19-20, 2023

4125-4129: August 9, 2023

4115-4119: August 10, 2023

4100-4104: August 17, 2023

4105-4109: August 22-23, 2023

4130-4134: August 29-20, 2023

4140-4144: September 12-13, 2023

4135-4139: September 14, 2023

4145-4149: September 20-21, 2023

4150-4154: September 27, 2023

4155-4159: October 3-4, 2023

4160-4164: October 18-19, 2023

4165-4169: January 23, 2024

4195-4199: January 25, 2024

4190-4194: February 1, 2024

4170-4174: February 7-8, 2024

4175-4179: February 14, 2024

4180-4184: February 27, 2024

 

4185-4189: February 29, 2024

4205-4209: February 29, 2024

4200-4204: March 13, 2024

4205-4209: March 14, 2024

4210-4214: March 26, 2024

4215-4219: April 3, 2024

4220-4224: April 9, 2024

4225-4229: April 11, 2024

4230-4234: April 17,2024

Notes: No time to stop.

R211 In service Timeline

4060-64, 4065-69: March 10, 2023

4070-74, 4075-79: June 29, 2023

4085-89, 4095-99: August 3, 2023

4080-84, 4120-24: August 17, 2023

4090-94, 4125-29: September 7, 2023

4110-14, 4115-19: September 14, 2023

4100-04, 4105-09: October 5, 2023

4130-34, 4135-39: November 3, 2023

4040-44, 4050-54: February 1, 2024

4045-49, 4055-59: February 5, 2024

4145-49, 4165-69: February 12, 2024

4140-44, 4160-64: February 27, 2024

4190-94, 4195-99: March 5, 2024

4170-74, 4175-79: March 8, 2024

4180-84, 4185-89: April 2, 2024

Notes: You shoulda stopped reading.

But besides that, I hope you liked this! Only did it because 200 R211s are delivered! I'll do this again when ~250 R211s are delivered or when there's too much going on.

They haven’t got to excercise Option II yet. Let Option 1 play out first before Option 2 is officially placed in order. 

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2 hours ago, FLX9304 said:

They haven’t got to excercise Option II yet. Let Option 1 play out first before Option 2 is officially placed in order. 

The MTA needs to order option order 2, so that the subway car shortage can be eliminated.

Let's not forget that ridership is growing, "B" and "D" trains need to be fully NTTs due to CBTC.

Also, the MTA will get more money through congestion pricing, so they better not make excuses for not purchasing option order 2.

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12 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

The MTA needs to order option order 2, so that the subway car shortage can be eliminated.

Let's not forget that ridership is growing, "B" and "D" trains need to be fully NTTs due to CBTC.

Also, the MTA will get more money through congestion pricing, so they better not make excuses for not purchasing option order 2.

With how much pushback and outrage they’re getting over CP, I wouldn’t get your hopes up.

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11 hours ago, Kamen Rider said:

technically, the B does not. 

With the way transit is, The (B) will get techs, The re-routes on 8th ave is the main factor of the (B) and (D) getting techs. Yes they can still use older non cbtc equipment in CBTC areas but they don't want the road to get screwed up. So it makes sense just to give the (B) and (D) techs and get it over with plus 6th ave is going to have CBTC as well so it's killing 2 birds with one stone.

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14 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

There are 17 separate lawsuits against it. I’m telling you it’s not happening in July 😂

I heard the UFT is suing them as well, which is silly. If I were a public school teacher who works in Midtown, I would take mass transit to get there. Traffic is horrible and it's practically impossible to find parking in Midtown.

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1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

There are 17 separate lawsuits against it. I’m telling you it’s not happening in July 😂

Frivolous or fabricated lawsuits. People want money the easy way

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50 minutes ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

I heard the UFT is suing them as well, which is silly. If I were a public school teacher who works in Midtown, I would take mass transit to get there. Traffic is horrible and it's practically impossible to find parking in Midtown.

The UFT is the teachers Union and teachers are part of the city as well, but that’s another story for the topic. To the R211 topic, there will be enough for the (A)(C)(B) & (D) to cover the fleet when all this is said & done. 

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