Department of Subways - Proposals/Ideas

[pringle5095]

Okay, this is completely out of the blue here, but IRT could (maybe)do with more service into Queens. The could be extended along the Lexington Avenue Line to Bowling Green, then it would use the Brooklyn Bridge to cross the East River into Brooklyn, where it would have stops at the following new stations in Brooklyn and Queens.

 

Sands St (Brooklyn Bridge)

Adams St (Myrtle Avenue)

Jay St-Metrotech (Change for

Navy St (Myrtle Av)

Vanderbilt Av (Myrtle Av)

Washington Av (Myrtle Av)

Grand Av (Myrtle Av)

 

 

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Moving on, there are also stops at

 

Greene Av (Grand Av)

Franklin Av (Lexington Av)

Nostrand Av (Lexington Av)

Tompkins Av (Lexington Av)

Marcus Garvey Blvd (Lexington Av)

Malcolm X Blvd (Lexington Av)

 

It would then run along an IRT Jamaica Line with transfers to the and between Gates Av and Cypress Hills where it would terminate. Please disregard anything about Queens and Bowling Green.

 

 

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[Around the Horn]

There is no way to get from Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall to the Brooklyn Bridge itself. That curve and ascent would be impossible...

[Cone E Island]

When and if the MTA decides to make that Utica Ave extension for the or   , they should extend the during late nights there to replace the   via Utica since it'll run to New Lots at late nights, replacing the . The  doesn't really need to be extended since the /  runs local anyways at late nights and the / runs local as well during that time. 

Edited December 2, 2016 by Cone E Island

[T to Dyre Avenue]

Okay, this is completely out of the blue here, but IRT could (maybe)do with more service into Queens. The could be extended along the Lexington Avenue Line to Bowling Green, then it would use the Brooklyn Bridge to cross the East River into Brooklyn, where it would have stops at the following new stations in Brooklyn and Queens

Bowling Green is nowhere near the Brooklyn Bridge. How could the train (or any Lexington Ave train for that matter) coming from Uptown/Midtown possibly be extended from Bowling Green over the Brooklyn Bridge? Edited December 2, 2016 by T to Dyre Avenue

[pringle5095]

Bowling Green is nowhere near the Brooklyn Bridge. How could the train (or any Lexington Ave train for that matter) coming from Uptown/Midtown possibly be extended from Bowling Green over the Brooklyn Bridge?

please disregard that, that was a mistake.

 

 

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[CenSin]

Also, somehow the somehow manages to get to 36 Street at the same time as the , and both stop and hold before on of them proceeds...

 

I also notice that the has been beating the to 36th Street for a while now. We end up passing it between 45th and 36th or it gets held at 59th...

After the merge though, it’s supposed to be smooth sailing, which is not the case. Functionally, it’s like an imaginary train is always merging in right before Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center. The being saddled with artificial delays is another issue altogether.

[ASubWayRider]

Kill the Rockaway park shuttle, replace it with the C and A running there.

 

That will allow A's to run express in queens.

 

C Now operates during late nights between 168st and WTC

 

This allows the A to run express during late nights.

 

 

[ASubWayRider]

There are no terminal spots for the 6 in brooklyn.

So, I'd say for an extension to Bowling Green

[S78 via Hylan]

There are no terminal spots for the 6 in brooklyn.

So, I'd say for an extension to Bowling Green

It wouldn't work as you'd be severely delaying and service.

[Around the Horn]

Okay, this is completely out of the blue here, but IRT could (maybe)do with more service into Queens. The could be extended along the Lexington Avenue Line to Bowling Green, then it would use the Brooklyn Bridge to cross the East River into Brooklyn, where it would have stops at the following new stations in Brooklyn and Queens

 

Sands St (Brooklyn Bridge)

Adams St (Myrtle Avenue)

Jay St-Metrotech (Change for

Navy St (Myrtle Av)

Vanderbilt Av (Myrtle Av)

Washington Av (Myrtle Av)

Grand Av (Myrtle Av)

 

 

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Moving on, there are also stops at

 

Greene Av (Grand Av)

Franklin Av (Lexington Av)

Nostrand Av (Lexington Av)

Tompkins Av (Lexington Av)

Marcus Garvey Blvd (Lexington Av)

Malcolm X Blvd (Lexington Av)

 

It would then run along an IRT Jamaica Line with transfers to the and between Gates Av and Cypress Hills where it would terminate. Please disregard anything about Queens and Bowling Green.

 

 

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Disregarding the Brooklyn Bridge thing, this still sounds pretty interesting. Is there a need for a Lexington Av route? I'm trying to remember, its the in the area right?

[pringle5095]

Disregarding the Brooklyn Bridge thing, this still sounds pretty interesting. Is there a need for a Lexington Av route? I'm trying to remember, its the in the area right?

I believe so, yes. Yet stupidly, there is no transfer. And also there is the

 

 

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[Cone E Island]

It wouldn't work as you'd be severely delaying and service.

Were it at late nights only, it could work. The shuttle wouldn't interfere at all. Only the runs on Lexington Ave along with the . Plus like I said, if the Utica Ave extension ever becomes a thing, this will help bring late night New Lots service easily without extending the shuttle.

Edited December 3, 2016 by Cone E Island

[Trainmaster5]

I'm sitting here laughing so hard that tears are running down my face. I thought that someone would catch on so I've been waiting patiently. For those who don't see what's been proposed I'll tell you a secret. Ever heard of the BMT Lexington Avenue El ?  Now go back and look at the proposed stops. Carry on.

[pringle5095]

I'm sitting here laughing so hard that tears are running down my face. I thought that someone would catch on so I've been waiting patiently. For those who don't see what's been proposed I'll tell you a secret. Ever heard of the BMT Lexington Avenue El ? Now go back and look at the proposed stops. Carry on.

I'm shocked no one has said anything about that as well. I thought of a restoration of that would do the good as there is no decent connections from the Bronx to the area where the are.

 

 

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[Fresh Pond]

Kill the Rockaway park shuttle, replace it with the C and A running there.

 

That will allow A's to run express in queens.

 

C Now operates during late nights between 168st and WTC

 

This allows the A to run express during late nights.

It's physically impossible for the to run express in Queens

[Around the Horn]

I'm sitting here laughing so hard that tears are running down my face. I thought that someone would catch on so I've been waiting patiently. For those who don't see what's been proposed I'll tell you a secret. Ever heard of the BMT Lexington Avenue El ?  Now go back and look at the proposed stops. Carry on.

Oh I knew about the Lexington Avenue El even if I didn't mention it. I was asking if there was a need for it now.

[Trainmaster5]

Oh I knew about the Lexington Avenue El even if I didn't mention it. I was asking if there was a need for it now.

I was waiting for you to point it out when I read your post. I figured that's where you were going with your response.

[Cone E Island]

Hopefully when they extend the / to the Bronx (via 3rd Av), they should connect it with the at Gun Hill Road. I propose Gun Hill Road should have an upper 3/4 track level for  / service and a lower 3 track level for the to terminate at (in case of a reroute). The /  from there would go via Gun Hill Road to Co-Op City. (as well as making a connection to /  trains at both Gun Hill Road stations)

Edited December 3, 2016 by Cone E Island

[pringle5095]

There is no way to get from Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall to the Brooklyn Bridge itself. That curve and ascent would be impossible...

since that is not viable, we could try extending the and having it terminate at Sands St rather than Broad St. during rush hours only the would run to Jamaica Center (and skip stop)but all other times it would run as a local and terminate at Cypress Hills or Malcolm X Blvd

 

 

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[ASubWayRider]

C service should operate between WTC and 168 st during late nights

[Fresh Pond]

since that is not viable, we could try extending the and having it terminate at Sands St rather than Broad St. during rush hours only the would run to Jamaica Center (and skip stop)but all other times it would run as a local and terminate at Cypress Hills or Malcolm X Blvd

 

 

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The is not it's own line, it's nothing more than extra trains.

[pringle5095]

The is not it's own line, it's nothing more than extra trains.

In that case we need anew designation for this service. Any ideas? I was thinking (P)

 

 

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[Cone E Island]

C service should operate between WTC and 168 st during late nights

Exactly why? There's no purpose at all for late night  service considering the  and cover the entire route already. The reason why the , ,  , and trains run as shuttles is because they're the only local lines that have their own stations that separate from the express lines. (i.e Metropolitan Ave, Bay Ridge - 96 St, 148 St - Lenox Yard, Eastchester - Dyre Ave)

Edited December 4, 2016 by Cone E Island

[Around the Horn]

Exactly why? There's no purpose at all for late night  service considering the  and cover the entire route already. The reason why the , ,  , and trains run as shuttles is because they're the only local lines that have their own stations that separate from the express lines. (i.e Metropolitan Ave, Bay Ridge - 96 St, 148 St - Lenox Yard, Eastchester - Dyre Ave)

The only change to the that I could see happening, is a slight extension of service time to say 1:30 AM Friday and Saturday nights...

[pringle5095]

Select Bus services have given me a rather good idea on a few things that can be done for a better Subway.

 

These include:

207 St Crosstown Subway (would run along 207 St in Manhattan and Fordham Rd and Pelham Pkwy in the Bronx)

 

2 AV Subway (current plans, with addition of Whitehall St station connection to 1,R,W)

 

34 St Subway

(Would run from Chelsea Pier to 1 AV, then descend to 23 St/AV C)

 

Verrazano Narrows Crossing (create a BMT/IND Subway between Staten Island Mall and 86 St R station that uses the aforementioned bridge)

 

Restoration of (8) service on 3 AV Line in the Bronx

 

Nostrand Av Service Extension (Extend the Nostrand AV Line South to Knapp St and North to Marcy Av JMZ station)

 

125 St Crosstown Subway

(Would run from 116 St 1 station, ascend to 125 st and run along it in Manhattan, then go into Queens and run to LaGuardia Airport by way of Astoria Blvd)

 

86 St Subway (Would run along 86 St connecting all of its Subway stops, including the 2 AV Subway stop)

 

Bronx Queens Crosstown

(A BMT/IND Subway would run from Tremont AV 2,5 station along the Cross Bronx Expressway to Lafayette Av, where it would cross the Whitestone Bridge and run along Parsons Blvd and Main St in Queens, before eventually coming to the Queens Blvd Lind, where it would follow the E to Jamaica Center. This would also involve extending the Archer AV Line one stop to Merrick Blvd)

 

Utica Av Subway

(A Subway would run down Malcolm X Blvd/Utica Av between Kosciusko St J station and Av U)

 

LaGuardia Line

 

(Create an IRT Subway between 61 St 7 station and Laguardia Airport)

 

23 St Subway

 

(Create a Subway that would run the length of 23 St, then descend to 20 St/AV C)

 

 

 

 

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