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Has anyone heard anything in recent days about the R179

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For awhile many ppl began discussing the R179 but then it was stopped mentiond, has anyone heard any info on the new cars yet plz lemme know:)

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It was stopped being talked about due to it all being rumors and mostly taken out of people's rear end.

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yeah thats a good way to put it...out of peoples rear ends and rumors. basically foamers vs foam fighters..and that caused flame wars which solve nothing. there has to be somehow though, a middle space of both parties, so that hopefully R179 talks wont turn into flame wars and be about decent ideas and positive outlooks, including the right to disagree, while at the same time foam free. possible???

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yeah thats a good way to put it...out of peoples rear ends and rumors. basically foamers vs foam fighters..and that caused flame wars which solve nothing. there has to be somehow though, a middle space of both parties, so that hopefully R179 talks wont turn into flame wars and be about decent ideas and positive outlooks, including the right to disagree, while at the same time foam free. possible???

That middle/neutral ground can only be made once the plans for the R179 has been finalized and publicized by the MTA. At that point the facts would be set and can be debated like adults, till then, it would just be the same old childish flame wars.

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As far as I'm concerned, no one really knows what the R179s will look like, so people stopped talking about it because it was all speculation. Wait in another year and this entire site will be flared about the R179s. Wait and see!

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Something tells me this R179 will not actually come.

 

what makes you say that? and another thing...would an R179 really be needed if option 2 of the R160 comes...when the R32/44/46 retire will only R160s replace them.

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The R179 it still a fig newton of your imaginations. Fugget bout it. The next R contract will be the R188 for the A Div and will run on the (7) line. Despite all the bad press that the (L) line CBTC has been getting, (MTA) will be applying CBTC to the (7) once all the bugs are work out on the (L). The R188 is just a modified version of the R142 so all the technology is off the shelf. Anyone seen the new building at Corona yard? I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the R179 to show up. If any more equipment is needed once all the SMEE are gone, (MTA) will extend the options on the R160. There's no reason to have to develope a new railcar especially with the agency so cash strapped.

(NJT) :nec: :septa:

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what makes you say that? and another thing...would an R179 really be needed if option 2 of the R160 comes...when the R32/44/46 retire will only R160s replace them.

 

The R179 is in the (MTA) Capital Plan, which will only retire the R44. The R32 is the only one being replaced by the R160s.

 

As for the R!79, there is no new news about them. Otherwise, you would have read it here anyway. Don't bother discussing the R179. We're far from done with the R160s so focus on them now. Everything about the R179 that we know already has been discussed to death.

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I'm just saying the capital plan says they will be 75 feet. I'm not saying it will be, I'm just saying the capital plan says that. Don't yell at me.

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Do you know what it looks like? 'Cause I've never heard of it.

 

noone knows what it looks like. its still on the drawing board, if it passed as being a plan yet. There were planned to be a 75 foot version of the R160, more less 75 feet. this is not etched in stone, and is subject to change. as far as looks, company manufacturer, materials, place of construction, ANYTHING else u can think of besides:

1. Planned to be 75 feet, and or 75 foot version of the R160

2. Planned to replace the R44 and R46,

....is straight up rumors, BS, and wet dreams of foamers.

Nothing is def about the R179, even if its gonna come out. All we can do is imagine a little about what it COULD look like...and noone should be angry at what others say, cause what they say is just as credable as what you say. Noone can speak fact about it, so let opinions flow...but dont bicker and complain about what others say...unless its completley outta line, because if someone is ignorant about the subway, there opinions and ideas may be based on ideal, rather then what is fact, so everyone be adults and be polite...foamers and foamfighters alike.

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The R179 is in the (MTA) Capital Plan, which will only retire the R44. The R32 is the only one being replaced by the R160s.

 

As for the R!79, there is no new news about them. Otherwise, you would have read it here anyway. Don't bother discussing the R179. We're far from done with the R160s so focus on them now. Everything about the R179 that we know already has been discussed to death.

 

I'll say this again for the forums, the capital plan is just that, a "plan". Nothing more or nothing less. Moses did not bring this down from the mountaintop. It's purely a wish list of projects the (MTA) the agency would like to undertake in a 5 year period. There are(were) many station rehab projects in the last couple of plans but were deferred because of other unforseen items that came up. Platform problems on the elevated lines ? No problemo, they just move money from another part of the plan to address the new reality. Not enough money to fund the plan? Raise the fare, beg Albany and Washington for more ducats. No money forthcoming? Drop another part of the plan. See where I'm going with this? DO NOT speculate on plans because all plans are subject to change. There is nothing etched in stone in the (MTA). A new governor or new (MTA) chairman might scrap the whole plan and the board will go along with it. So please let's keep our discussions civil and grounded in the real world.

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How about the (R)(4)(6). will R179 will repalce (R)(4)(6)

No one not talking about that (R)(4)(6) need to be replaced

For the time being, no. With the budget crisis right now, it is speculated that the R44s might even remain until 2016.

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I'll say this again for the forums, the capital plan is just that, a "plan". Nothing more or nothing less. Moses did not bring this down from the mountaintop. It's purely a wish list of projects the (MTA) the agency would like to undertake in a 5 year period. There are(were) many station rehab projects in the last couple of plans but were deferred because of other unforseen items that came up. Platform problems on the elevated lines ? No problemo, they just move money from another part of the plan to address the new reality. Not enough money to fund the plan? Raise the fare, beg Albany and Washington for more ducats. No money forthcoming? Drop another part of the plan. See where I'm going with this? DO NOT speculate on plans because all plans are subject to change. There is nothing etched in stone in the (MTA). A new governor or new (MTA) chairman might scrap the whole plan and the board will go along with it. So please let's keep our discussions civil and grounded in the real world.

Well said. Topic closed.

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