JAzumah Posted April 9, 2014 Share #1 Posted April 9, 2014 Service cuts effective 5/5/2014 Fare increase on 5/1/2014 *****Termination of Services****** Effective May 5, 2014 Rockland Coaches will no longer operate the 11C, 14K or the 20/84 routes. Passengers needing service to the George Washington Bridge may still use our route 9A service or connect with NJ TRANSIT 186 route in Englewood, NJ or from NJ Route 4. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at 201-263-1254 or via e-mail at rockland@coachusa.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkemon Posted April 10, 2014 Share #2 Posted April 10, 2014 Well that sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missabassie Posted April 10, 2014 Share #3 Posted April 10, 2014 What the f**k?? Seriously?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q101 E Midtown Posted April 10, 2014 Share #4 Posted April 10, 2014 If only I could fan these routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted April 10, 2014 Share #5 Posted April 10, 2014 Sounds like Coach USA wants to shut down that division just like they did with Red and Tan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkemon Posted April 10, 2014 Share #6 Posted April 10, 2014 As long as the route 9 stays in place we're alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted April 10, 2014 Share #7 Posted April 10, 2014 As long as the route 9 stays in place we're alright. For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZGuy Posted April 10, 2014 Share #8 Posted April 10, 2014 My opinion of this is that this was more of the fact that CUSA sold the Westwood garage and they can't bring all their MCIs to wherever they are moving to (cough,Mahwah). It's sad to see them keep getting smaller and smaller but one thing folks need to realize it that they aren't pulling the loads they used to out of Rockland county that they used too. Plus once they get into Jersey every line is overlapped by a NJT route that runs with more frequency then R&T can muster up. Add to the fact that the GWB is really not the not spot it used to be, if it ever was. Folks want the PABT,Midtown and Wall St.....they should have been focusing on that. Looks like NJT will have some "new" crusiers in a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q101 E Midtown Posted April 11, 2014 Share #9 Posted April 11, 2014 But I guess this raises this question: Why not provide service to those aforementioned areas? (ie, Wall St, East Midtown) Or is it simply not within their financial power? And will attempts to fill the void be provided? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAzumah Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share #10 Posted April 11, 2014 The loads are problematic: 11C: 445p - 24 545p - 32 645p - 28 845p - 15 14K: 545p - 27 84: 510p - 15 610p - 17 710p - 6 I think the 11C will work independently operated, although the overlap with the 11A could be a point of conflict. The 14K and 84 would need a strong interlining partner to make sense. I'm not sure what I can do with those routes just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted April 11, 2014 Share #11 Posted April 11, 2014 My opinion of this is that this was more of the fact that CUSA sold the Westwood garage and they can't bring all their MCIs to wherever they are moving to (cough,Mahwah). It's sad to see them keep getting smaller and smaller but one thing folks need to realize it that they aren't pulling the loads they used to out of Rockland county that they used too. Plus once they get into Jersey every line is overlapped by a NJT route that runs with more frequency then R&T can muster up. Add to the fact that the GWB is really not the not spot it used to be, if it ever was. Folks want the PABT,Midtown and Wall St.....they should have been focusing on that. Looks like NJT will have some "new" crusiers in a month. Cusa has midtown service on city streets so why not extend 11C, 84 & 14K to midtown streets like 5th ave madison? itdoesn't make sense to end at GWB as proven by ridership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted April 12, 2014 Share #12 Posted April 12, 2014 The loads are problematic: 11C: 445p - 24 545p - 32 645p - 28 845p - 15 14K: 545p - 27 84: 510p - 15 610p - 17 710p - 6 I think the 11C will work independently operated, although the overlap with the 11A could be a point of conflict. The 14K and 84 would need a strong interlining partner to make sense. I'm not sure what I can do with those routes just yet. Kind of amazing numbers considering R&T sports 45 footers A few weeks ago I ran across a dispatcher giving out surveys at Port Authority....now they're cutting service? Sheesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbus86 Posted April 12, 2014 Share #13 Posted April 12, 2014 Rockland has been cutting its GWB service back for years. Instead of offering new service to adjust to changing travel patterns, they just cut routes that underperform. It is a shame especially since the GWB terminal is finally being renovated, with fewer buses serving it. NJT should take over some of these routes, and then have them continue to midtown via the east side as an alternative to the overcrowded Port Authority Bus Terminal. I have some old R&T schedules posted here, more to come: http://njbus.blogspot.com/2013/01/red-and-tan-linesrockland-coaches-route.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs NJT459 Posted May 3, 2014 Share #14 Posted May 3, 2014 Saddle River Tours is taking over the 11C, 20/84 on Mondayhttp://www.srtbus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 3, 2014 Share #15 Posted May 3, 2014 My opinion of this is that this was more of the fact that CUSA sold the Westwood garage and they can't bring all their MCIs to wherever they are moving to (cough,Mahwah). It's sad to see them keep getting smaller and smaller but one thing folks need to realize it that they aren't pulling the loads they used to out of Rockland county that they used too. Plus once they get into Jersey every line is overlapped by a NJT route that runs with more frequency then R&T can muster up. Add to the fact that the GWB is really not the not spot it used to be, if it ever was. Folks want the PABT,Midtown and Wall St.....they should have been focusing on that. Looks like NJT will have some "new" crusiers in a month. I'm not trying to be funny, and I hate to make a VG8 type argument, but I cannot imagine the "working professionals" in Rockland County gunning for GWB like that.... Not because it's a heavily hispanic area, but more the fact that the type of commercialism surrounding Washington Heights paled/pales in comparison to the commercialism of a lower or midtown manhattan - "manhattan south", as some would call it... below CPS [59th st])..... So I'm more inclined to side with the "....if it ever was" part of your statement. As far as their routes paralleling NJT routes.... A good example of what you're conveying here is apparent up along palisades av in englewood (I like their "downtown" area btw); ppl passing up the C-USA buses for NJT buses.... That, or having to take the all the way up to some 175th to avoid taking a bus out of PABT.... I don't know how much of a time saving measure that is or not, but just looking at those numbers J. Azumah posted up is rather pathetic..... It's something that some of those C-USA routes have been around for as long as they have..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted May 3, 2014 Share #16 Posted May 3, 2014 Well, the 11C is seeing Weekday Midday and extremely reduced weekend service starting Monday. Route 20 will now be rush hour only instead of a full time bus route (with the combined 20/84 trips). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q101 E Midtown Posted May 4, 2014 Share #17 Posted May 4, 2014 I was surprised to see they cut the midday and weekend service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted May 4, 2014 Share #18 Posted May 4, 2014 Is there a map that shows all these lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic412 Posted May 4, 2014 Share #19 Posted May 4, 2014 Saddle River Tours is taking over the 11C, 20/84 on Monday http://www.srtbus.com/ Old schedules Coach USA (Red & Tan - Rockland Coach) http://www.coachusa.com/CoachUsaAssets/files/97/route11c.pdf http://www.coachusa.com/CoachUsaAssets/files/97/route14.pdf http://www.coachusa.com/CoachUsaAssets/files/97/route84.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted May 5, 2014 Share #20 Posted May 5, 2014 I was training on the 11C and the 20/84 as I'm going back to Part time work with Saddle River. I'll tell you what. The Tenafly and Harrington Park stops are going to be the bitch (20/84). And a lot of the streets that you have to turn on are unmarked and in the middle of nowhere. Ugh My opinion of this is that this was more of the fact that CUSA sold the Westwood garage and they can't bring all their MCIs to wherever they are moving to (cough,Mahwah). Think maybe NJT's Pascack Valley trains running weekends now may have something to do with this as far as ridership attraction goes? It's sad to see them keep getting smaller and smaller but one thing folks need to realize it that they aren't pulling the loads they used to out of Rockland county that they used too. Plus once they get into Jersey every line is overlapped by a NJT route that runs with more frequency then R&T can muster up. Add to the fact that the GWB is really not the not spot it used to be, if it ever was. Folks want the PABT,Midtown and Wall St.....they should have been focusing on that. Looks like NJT will have some "new" crusiers in a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted May 8, 2014 Share #21 Posted May 8, 2014 Saddle River Tours is taking over the 11C, 20/84 on Monday http://www.srtbus.com/ Any one know what equipement they will be running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted May 9, 2014 Share #22 Posted May 9, 2014 Any one know what equipement they will be running? 8 of Rockland Coaches' MCI D4000s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted May 9, 2014 Share #23 Posted May 9, 2014 8 of Rockland Coaches' MCI D4000s Thanks, wonder if they will make a new scheme for the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs NJT459 Posted May 9, 2014 Share #24 Posted May 9, 2014 I thought NJT was gonna get those MCIs back that would've been repainted, Clever Device'd up and went straight to Howell Those Rockland MCI's wayfarers have RFID card scanners (from what I saw on Flickr) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted May 10, 2014 Share #25 Posted May 10, 2014 They actually took out the wayfarers and I couldn't train on the routes into the GWB because the EZPASSES were taken out. I did see the 20/84 and the 11C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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