Jova42R

2 minutes ago, GojiMet86 said:

 

He's pulling that same shit on the CPTDB too, with me and Orion6025.

What do you mean? Its a chat. If you want to leave, you can.

3 minutes ago, Cait Sith said:

So, you (or your "parents") chose to reply to your own posts too?

You're full of crap.

My parents can comment on what I post, pretty sure thats totally ok.

Just now, Cait Sith said:

*sigh*

 

Yes, @BrightlinerNewFlyer I created, then forgot the password to, so i started using this acc. @R32-DTrain is an account that my parents created. It is totally seperate from mine.

1 minute ago, Cait Sith said:

I'm only going to ask you this once, @Jova42R. Why do you have THREE accounts?

What? I only have one account!

15 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

The XDE35's would be utilized for the commuter shuttles & the XDE40's would be utilized for routes like the BL-77 (and any other route they have utilizing the O5 suburbans).....

The W77 is technically an express route, just like the BXM4C. so maybe run suburban buses? In terms of New Flyer, could they build a suburban XDE40? or would it be a coach bus (a D4000CL or D4000CT maybe?)

20 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

1. They won't get MCIs. The BxM4C and their other Express Routes from White Plains don't even get the ridership that makes them need MCIs.

even the 4C? I thought that it did!

17 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

The fact that they even run those O5 suburbans on routes like the BL-34, 38, and 39 are enough.... All those little commuter shuttles (like the BL-64, 65, 70, and 71) should be running those baby buses (the 32 footers)....

Yes, the XDE35s would replace all O5s except the BXM4C.

20 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

2. They won't get Enviro200Hs.
3. They won't get Novas.

Ok, yea I thought not.

20 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

4. They're getting New Flyers. There's a chance that they'd get the 29ft Gillig to replace the 30ft Orions, but I see XDE35s in their future for parts and fleet uniformity.

So their fleet will consist of entirely XDE buses (and whatever replaces the Orion 5s)?

As many of BeeLine's buses are nearing the end of their lives, I thought that it would be a good idea to compile a list of (what I think) are the best replacements for these buses.

The current fleet is (soon to be retired in red, not retiring soon in blue😞

• 2004 OBI Orion V 05.505
• 2006 OBI Orion VII 07.501 OG HEV
• 2009 NABI 40-LFW HEV
• 2018-19 New Flyer XDE60
• 2003 Neoplan AN460
• 2005-6 Orion V 05.501 Transit
• 2008 Orion V 05.501 Suburban

Most of the fleet is soon to be retiring. Hence, here are the replacements (replacements in green):

• 2004 OBI Orion V 05.505
  • New Flyer XDE35 (1st choice)
  • Alexander Dennis Enviro200H 33 ft (2nd choice)
  • Gillig BRT HEV 35 ft (3rd choice)
• 2006 OBI Orion VII 07.501 OG HEV
  • New Flyer XDE40 (1st choice)
  • Nova Bus LFS TL40102A HEV or Nova Bus LFX TL40102A HEV (2nd choice)
  • Gillig BRT HEV 40 ft (3rd choice)
• 2009 NABI 40-LFW HEV
  • New Flyer XDE40 (1st choice)
  • Nova Bus LFS TL40102A HEV or Nova Bus LFX TL40102A HEV (2nd choice)
  • Gillig BRT HEV 40 ft (3rd choice)
• 2003 Neoplan AN460
  • 577 will be replaced by 322, an XDE60
• 2005-6 Orion V 05.501 Transit
  • New Flyer XDE40 (1st choice)
  • Nova Bus LFS TL40102A HEV or Nova Bus LFX TL40102A HEV (2nd choice)
  • Gillig BRT HEV 40 ft (3rd choice)
• 2008 Orion V 05.501 Suburban
  • MCI D4500CTH (1st choice)
  • Nova Bus LFS TL40102A HEV Suburban (2nd choice)

23 hours ago, The TransitMan said:

No D4000CTs built yet?

Surprisingly, they still list the D4000CL on their roster as well. I doubt either bus will sell well.

17 minutes ago, davemackey said:

20804 and 20812 inspected today.

when will these buses enter service

9 hours ago, brakethrow said:

Interesting, I always assumed the horns still remained functional. But I think the most you'd get is a "ummm sir, you're not allowed to touch the controls" or something a bit more stern if you're bold enough to actually sit in the cab whilst doing so (not encouraging anyone here lol).

Once I rode the entire Hudson Line from Croton to GCT in the cab, and the conductor didn't even bat an eye. Although I didn't blow the horn.

@davemackey @553 Bridgeton Will NJT get any D45 CRT LEs or not?

2 minutes ago, Bklyn Bound 2 Local said:

Brand New SUbway Screenshot  

Hope this works!

I can't access it. I'll also post a screenshot.

4 minutes ago, Bklyn Bound 2 Local said:

I am making a map for it rn, I'l post it later.

Ok. Would it utilize the Wards Island Bridge or not?

2 minutes ago, Bklyn Bound 2 Local said:

Probably up 3rd or Melrose, then turn westward at Claremont Pkwy.

yea true. Still working on that map,so hold on. One MASSIVE flaw, however, is that for the Queens span of the RFK and the Wards Island Bridge is that they are really only wide enough for a single track. With the RFK, sure, we could widen it, but not sure about the Wards Island. The Wards Island bridge is 12 ft wide, that is wide enough for two just-under-5-ft-wide tracks, but are there trams that are less than 6 ft wide? because the maximum you could have safely is probably 5.5 ft.

19 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

A private operator using a competitor's resources? Now that's pretty funny.

 

I know lol. I was just wondering what company's buses they would use, and the MTA was the only company that I know of.

18 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

No. Contractual agreements are being considered for some of the private carriers. 

 

With which company?

1 hour ago, B35 via Church said:

14 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

I'm pretty sure buying brand new buses like the one listed in your post would make things MUCH more expensive. I'm too lazy look it up the prices of current day brand new buses but the OG Orion hybrids costed somewhere around 500,000 per bus.

13 hours ago, RapidoNewLook said:

I doubt that any private company, especially this one which seems to be a startup, could afford those types of buses. And even if they could, I just don't see them doing it, because anything other than a diesel is more expensive to operate than a diesel. 

Yeah, ole boy is simply being fanatical & not being realistic with that....

It's like an entrepreneur having lofty expectations of starting up a business with establishments in multiple locations in the busiest parts of the city or something...... Money costs money.

I know that these buses are more expensive, but we need to save the earth. I recently watched a documentary that showed how the world will be a dead place soon if we don't switch to the greenest of green energy.

diesel is dying. electric buses are the future, and we need to embrace them.

2 minutes ago, Lex said:

Talk about late to the party.

The route's (normal) ridership is adequate enough to work with artics in spite of not officially being an artic route.

I stand corrected!

(Its all artics right now! (http://bt.mta.info/#m35))

On 6/16/2020 at 1:44 PM, Bklyn Bound 2 Local said:

What about a 116th Street line to LaGuardia? It would take a load off the M60 and maybe bring the subway to Randall's Island!

6 hours ago, mrsman said:

Is that supposed to be a branch off the 2nd Ave line?

I proposed this as an  a while back, and let me tell you something: There isn't gonna be a subway tunnel north of 86th anytime soon. There is an active fault line right there (hence why SAS is a deepbore tunnel). However, using the Wards Island Bridge as a subway or LRT bridge, then connecting either to Astoria or the South bronx isn't a shoddy idea - you'd just have to figure out how to put trains on the RFK bridge (with LRT, this isn't a problem, you can widen the shoulders and put the trains there). Also, where would the Bronx end of the line go?

I'll post a map of what a "Triboro" LRT could look like soon (my Bronx branch would go to Yankee Stadium, as that hits all the major hubs of the South Bronx)

1 hour ago, Calvin said:

If you mean the route and fleet, it does. Standards and Articulateds both operate the M35 (Depots: Mother Clara Hale and Tuskegee Airmen). 

Artics on the M35? really?

Does anybody know what the schedule is like for any of the private carrier routes operating out of the GWB Bus Terminal?

@DCTransitFilms @davemackey @553 Bridgeton @B35 via Church @Lawrence St do you know?

thanks for the help!

14 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

Don't bank on it. I've discussed the plan with the potential operator. From a cost standpoint it's easier to have existing carriers use their equipment.  Less overhead and liability. 

Meaning they would borrow MTA equipment?

On 6/15/2020 at 11:16 AM, davemackey said:

And I believe they’re still going to be D4500CT’s. If MCI was gonna put CRTs in New Jersey, we would have heard of it by now.

is there a chance NJT will get any CRTs?

3 hours ago, GojiMet86 said:

Bus Fleet - Once the MCI contract is complete, the new transit/suburban replacement will begin. The plan notes that "most" of the NABIs in northern NJ will be replaced with artics. Now, "most" can mean as low as 50.1%, but that would be a major change to the local fleet. All-electric buses will be part of the short-term plan, starting with 68 40-footers and 32 artics. NJT says they expect the bus fleet to be 100% electric by 2040.

• I'm assuming the 60-ft electrics are XE60s? What about the 40-fters?
• Also, are XDE40s/XD40s or Novas replacing most of the NABIs? And what will replace the suburbans? Nova LFS Suburbans?
• Also, is NJT getting any D45 CRT LEs? (maybe D45 CRTe LE models?)
• What will replace the 31-ft NABIs? I can only think of the following options:
  • Alexander Dennis Enviro200
  • Grande West Vicinity
  • Gillig Advantage Low Floor
  • Gillig Advantage BRT
• What artics are replacing the NABIs? XD60s?

1 hour ago, RapidoNewLook said:

At risk of sounding incredibly ignorant, what is an acceptance facility?

25 minutes ago, danielhg121 said:

Just a guess but probably where they do finishing touches and some level of inspection and quality control on the buses?

I'm no expert, but I think the 's  acceptance facility is Zerega.

@Via Garibaldi 8 @LaGuardia Link N Tra I think that ideally, the buses should be as clean-energy as possible. This leaves the following options:

• FULLY ELECTRIC (IDEAL OPTION)
  • BYD C9M (40 ft long)
  • BYD C10M (45 ft long)
  • BYD C10MS (45 ft long, double decker)
  • MCI J4500e (45 ft long)
  • Nova LFSe+ Suburban (40 ft long LOW FLOOR)
• DIESEL-ELECTRIC HYBRID (SECOND CHOICE OPTION)
  • MCI D4500CTH (45 ft long)
  • Nova LFS HEV Suburban (40 ft long LOW FLOOR)
• CNG (THIRD CHOICE OPTION)
  • MCI D4500CT CNG (45 ft long)
  • MCI D4000CT CNG (40 ft long)
  • Nova LFS CNG Suburban (40 ft long LOW FLOOR)

I'll post some routes that these lines should run on soon.

9 minutes ago, NycTransitFan107 said:

Your just halcunating things bro. M9s are just EMUs

 

Well, the Nippon Sharyo DMUs are built to be easily converted to EMU service, but idk about the M9s. TBH, all LIRR and MNRR trains should be DEMUs, preferably the STADLER FLIRT.