Grand Concourse Posted April 11, 2010 Share #176 Posted April 11, 2010 John Smoltz? He never pitched for the Mets or the Yankees. He pitched for Boston, but was eventually put on waivers and the cardinals picked him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 11, 2010 Share #177 Posted April 11, 2010 I think some players have what i call the Ed Whitson disease. Thet are great players in small markets but the bright lights and pressure is too much for them and they cant take the pressure. I put Csrl Pavano, Javier Vasquez, Dave Collins and Kevin Brown into that category. And I don't doubt that, but Vazquez did have a good first half in 2004, it was because he pitched thru an injury than to outright say he needed rest was why he got worse and worse. It's 1 game, let's see another game first before putting the nails on the coffin. Yes Randy Johnson sealed his fate the first day as a Yankee, when he attacked Duke Castaglione and that cameraman. Glavine with that horrible last day of the season first inning against the Marlins. Well what he does off field is not my concern. He was healthy and got 34 wins in 2 seasons. But he sucked in the playoffs and was past his prime. Why would you trade a young guy for an aging ace? Sure Vazquez coughed up the big one in game 7, but it was already a bad situation because Kevin Brown f'ed things up already. He was a young guy that consistantly threw 200+ innings each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted April 12, 2010 Share #178 Posted April 12, 2010 Nice win today, though I'm starting to question whether AJ Burnett is really an elite pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted April 12, 2010 Share #179 Posted April 12, 2010 :confused: The Senators beat the Mets and Johan Santana 5-2 on a first inning grand slam? Opening Day on Tuesday as the Yankees host the Los Angeles Angels at 1:05pm. Andy gets the start vs. Earvin Santana. I think maybe pitcher Hideki Irabu maybe kind of fits "Eddie Lee Whitson Disease". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68 Subway Car Posted April 12, 2010 Share #180 Posted April 12, 2010 Nice win today, though I'm starting to question whether AJ Burnett is really an elite pitcher.Your questioning AJ? You should be thankful you have three starting pitchers dude. Our ace gets rocked by the mother****ing Nationals!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share #181 Posted April 12, 2010 Nice win today, though I'm starting to question whether AJ Burnett is really an elite pitcher. AJ an elite pitcher? I am not sure who called AJ an elite pitcher but imo most knowledge baseball people knows he a very good pitcher aka #2 on a good team like the Yanks or #1 on a medicore/bad team. Burnett is not or ever has been an elite pitcher. To me an elite pitchers in no order right now in top 10 starters in MLB are aces such as CC, Johan Santana, Roy Hallady, Cliff Lee, Zack Greinke, Josh Beckett, Tim Lincecum, Jake Peavy and Bradon Webb. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68 Subway Car Posted April 12, 2010 Share #182 Posted April 12, 2010 AJ an elite pitcher? I am not sure who called AJ an elite pitcher but imo most knowledge baseball people knows he a very good pitcher aka #2 on a good team like the Yanks or #1 on a medicore/bad team. Burnett is not or ever has been an elite pitcher. To me an elite pitchers in no order right now in top 10 starters in MLB are aces such as CC, Johan Santana, Roy Hallady, Cliff Lee, Zack Greinke, Josh Beckett, Tim Lincecum, Jake Peavy and Bradon Webb. :confused: and Justin Verlander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 12, 2010 Share #183 Posted April 12, 2010 AJ an elite pitcher? I am not sure who called AJ an elite pitcher but imo most knowledge baseball people knows he a very good pitcher aka #2 on a good team like the Yanks or #1 on a medicore/bad team. Burnett is not or ever has been an elite pitcher. To me an elite pitchers in no order right now in top 10 starters in MLB are aces such as CC, Johan Santana, Roy Hallady, Cliff Lee, Zack Greinke, Josh Beckett, Tim Lincecum, Jake Peavy and Bradon Webb. :confused: Agreed, Burnett will have his good days and his worst days. Andy is really the #2 of the staff. Burnett can be as good as CC, but he's not consistant enough. Your questioning AJ? You should be thankful you have three starting pitchers dude. Our ace gets rocked by the mother****ing Nationals!!!!!!!! Great point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share #184 Posted April 12, 2010 and Justin Verlander. Thank You R68. How i can forget the Tigers best starter since Jack Morris over 20 years ago. IMO AJ is in the 2nd tier of very good pitchers with the Cards Chris Carpertner and the Phils Cole Helmels just missing the 'elite' group of starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share #185 Posted April 12, 2010 Nel B35 Forest Glen or anyone else want to disagree with my picks of the top 10-12 starters in MLB right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 12, 2010 Share #186 Posted April 12, 2010 I dont disagree with your top 10 starters although I think AJ Burnett does have the stuff to become an elite Pitcher with a great fastball and sensational off speed stuff great breaking ball. The physical assets are there its all mental with AJ Burnett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share #187 Posted April 12, 2010 For those of you worried about the Twin outdoor new ballpark here an news report from the NBC-TV station in Minneapolis on steps that the folks at the new "Target Field' are taking to prepare for rain and early and late parts of the season the 's' word aka snow. Ballpark opens 'for real' tommorrow 4/12/10 vs the RED Sox. Game is on ESPN1 at 4pm New York (ET)time. http://www.kare11.com/news/investigative/extras/extra_article.aspx?storyid=847706&catid=26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion69 Posted April 12, 2010 Share #188 Posted April 12, 2010 All Mets fans please rise and get ready to clap your hands and make some noise, on a 1,2,3, LAST PLACE! CLAP CLAP CLAP! LAST PLACE! CLAP CLAP CLAP, LAST PLACE! CLAP CLAP CLAP! 6 game road trip coming up, 3 in Colorado, 3 in St Louis,I say they go 2-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share #189 Posted April 12, 2010 All Mets fans please rise and get ready to clap your hands and make some noise, on a 1,2,3, LAST PLACE! CLAP CLAP CLAP! LAST PLACE! CLAP CLAP CLAP, LAST PLACE! CLAP CLAP CLAP! 6 game road trip coming up, 3 in Colorado, 3 in St Louis,I say they go 2-4. LOL feels like 1977-79 when the Yankees were winning the world series and owning NYC. While the Mets fans looked forward to 'old timers night' when then newly retired Cleon Jones and Bud Harelson from the '69 title team were honored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 12, 2010 Share #190 Posted April 12, 2010 LOL feels like 1977-79 when the Yankees were winning the world series and owning NYC. While the Mets fans looked forward to 'old timers night' when then newly retired Cleon Jones and Bud Harelson from the '69 title team were honored. It could get ugly in Flushing this year. They might start chanting bring back Joan Payson and Jody Mcdonald father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share #191 Posted April 12, 2010 It could get ugly in Flushing this year. They might start chanting bring back Joan Payson and Jody Mcdonald father. If it does Mr. Manuel and Mr. Minayna are both on the MLB unemployment line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 12, 2010 Share #192 Posted April 12, 2010 They are already on the bubble, but the 'C'oupons are too cheap to cut them and replace them with more competent people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 12, 2010 Share #193 Posted April 12, 2010 They are among the walking dead already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share #194 Posted April 12, 2010 They are already on the bubble, but the 'C'oupons are too cheap to cut them and replace them with more competent people. Guys if Manuel is fired by June who should replace him as mets skipper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 12, 2010 Share #195 Posted April 12, 2010 Guys if Manuel is fired by June who should replace him as mets skipper? Bobby Valentine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 12, 2010 Share #196 Posted April 12, 2010 He'd be great, but I heard the owners don't like him and they rule with an iron fist. So I'd be really surprised if he's hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 12, 2010 Share #197 Posted April 12, 2010 That's true and he might be too expensive for the Wilpons blood but he will bring a winner and is a chief stratagist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share #198 Posted April 13, 2010 On offical grand opening of Target Field, the Twins beat the Red Sox 5-2. While The Astros are for the moment the worse team in MLB off to 0-7 start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share #199 Posted April 13, 2010 Final tv report of opening day 2010 at Target Field for the Twins. FYI. Reporter here is Rex Chapman who used to work for Ch 2 and Ch 4 in NYC. http://wcco.com/video/?cid=5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted April 13, 2010 Share #200 Posted April 13, 2010 The Yankees win on Opening Day at the Stadium, 7-5. Andy pitched six nice innings to earn his first win. Three bases on balls but six strikeouts; 59 strikes of 100 pitches total. Los Angeles scored four runs in the ninth to put a brief scare, but Super Mo put out the fire with 4 strikes of 7 pitches total. The Captain and A-Rod both went 2-5 and Jorge went 3-4 to help the Yankees. In another day game tomorrow, Javier Vazquez vs. Scott Kazmir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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