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Yo, keep outta my skyline! Empire State Building fights Steven Roth's plan for nearby


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A big-shot developer has one final hurdle to clear in his bid to build a skyline-altering skyscraper in the shadow of the Empire State Building.

 

But there's one person erecting a tower of opposition to the plan: the owner of the Empire State Building.

 

Anthony Malkin is in an 11th-hour bid to stop developer Steven Roth from tearing down the Hotel Pennsylvania on Seventh Ave. and replacing it with a high-rise nearly as tall as the crown jewel of the cityscape.

 

"It's going to be known as the building that has ruined the image of New York City," said Malkin, a co-owner of the Empire State Building.

 

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/08/20/2010-08-20_yo_keep_outta_my_skyline_empire_state_bldg_fights_newcomer.html#ixzz0x9dsKkCW

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Oh please let them build it and help shape the skyline.First the mosque now this.No one should build in NYC then.

 

This is more of a "No! I won't let him have a bigger package than me!" kind of situation, LOL

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Nope, that building looks like $)*&@ing crap. Why would anyone even think of ruining the skyline??

 

They said the same about the Twin Towers when they were built in the 1970s but then they became part of the iconic skyline.

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True, but the ESB has been here since the 1930s. If the building actually gets constructed I wouldn't care but the fact that it's so close to the ESB irritates me. Lower Manhattan didn't have that huge iconic skyscraper reaching into the skies like Midtown currently has.

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This building should be built in Lower Manhattan not Midtown Manhattan because Lower Manhattan really needs office space when the Twin Towers went down. Besides if architects want to built today New York should split Manhattan into two. Midtown Skyscrapers should have an art deco form to blend in. So Lower Manhattan would be divided for glass buildings. While they are at it they should really also focus on rebuilding the Twin Towers somewhere in our skyline.

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This building should be built in Lower Manhattan not Midtown Manhattan because Lower Manhattan really needs office space when the Twin Towers went down. Besides if architects want to built today New York should split Manhattan into two. Midtown Skyscrapers should have an art deco form to blend in. So Lower Manhattan would be divided for glass buildings. While they are at it they should really also focus on rebuilding the Twin Towers somewhere in our skyline.

 

The new WTC 1 will be completed before this new tower is. So there is your Lower Manhattan office space. The Twin Towers will sadly never come back, but at least the new WTC tower will be the tallest in the country, and 3rd or 4th tallest in the world IIRC.

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The new WTC 1 will be completed before this new tower is. So there is your Lower Manhattan office space. The Twin Towers will sadly never come back, but at least the new WTC tower will be the tallest in the country, and 3rd or 4th tallest in the world IIRC.

 

Do you know how many floors it will be?

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Do you know how many floors it will be?

 

110 like the old towers IIRC.

 

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from wtc.com

 

The new World Trade Center (WTC) will build a brighter, more vibrant future for downtown New York with superior commercial space, a modernized and more convenient transportation system, and cultural and highly commemorative destinations. It will provide a significant economic boost for the area and dramatically enhance the quality of life for the people who live, work, and visit downtown.

 

The WTC plan includes

 

Five new skyscrapers (1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 WTC)

National September 11 Memorial & Museum at the World Trade Center

World Trade Center Transportation Hub

Retail Complex

Performing Arts Center

All of the projects will be built incorporating the highest standards of sustainable design and safety systems. The WTC is an unprecedented merging of architectural minds, firms, and talents, all working toward one goal: creating a grand urban center for 21st-century New York. The site will feature a collection of works by world-renowned architects - Santiago Calatrava, David Childs, Norman Foster, Frank Gehry, Fumihiko Maki, and Richard Rogers.

 

Completion of the five World Trade Center office towers will mark a major milestone in the redevelopment of downtown New York-one that provides over 10 million square feet of office space.

 

Taken together with the recently opened 7 World Trade Center to the north of the site and the fast-rising new Goldman Sachs global headquarters in Battery Park City to the west of the WTC, the downtown skyline will feature no fewer than seven gleaming new corporate office towers comprising 14 million square feet of Class-A office space.

 

 

1 World Trade Center

An architectural landmark for New York City, 1 World Trade Center (WTC) will soar a symbolic 1,776 feet skyward to become America's tallest building. Designed by David M. Childs of Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, the 2.6-million-square-foot building will include office space, an observation deck, world-class restaurants, and broadcast and antennae facilities. One World Trade Center will be located on the northwest corner of the WTC site.

 

 

Tower 2

Tower 2, also known by its street address, 200 Greenwich Street, features a sparkling glazed crystalline form and diamond-shaped summit that will create a bold addition to the New York skyline. Designed by Foster and Partners, the 79-story tower will be the second-tallest skyscraper on the World Trade Center (WTC) site and in New York City. Located east of the proposed performing arts center and north of the WTC Transportation Hub, Tower 2 will rise to 1,270 feet and be topped by an 80-foot antenna.

 

 

Tower 3

Tower 3, also referred to as 175 Greenwich Street, will be the third-tallest building on the World Trade Center (WTC) site. Designed by Richard Rogers of Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners, the tower will be situated at the center of the various buildings around the memorial.

 

 

Tower 4

Tower 4, also known by its street address, 150 Greenwich Street, will face directly onto the World Trade Center (WTC) Memorial Park from the west. Rising 975 feet, it will be the fourth-tallest skyscraper on the WTC site. Designed by Maki and Associates, the 64-story tower is intended to assume a quiet but dignified presence at the site while also serving to enliven the immediate urban environment as part of the redevelopment efforts of downtown New York.

 

 

Tower 5

Located on the southernmost portion of the World Trade Center (WTC) site, Tower 5 will be developed by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

 

 

7 WTC

7 World Trade Center (WTC) marks the gateway to the new WTC and heralds the spirit of redevelopment and renewal in downtown Manhattan. Opened in May 2006, the rebuilt 52-story, 1.7-million-square-foot office tower is now two-thirds leased, with a tenant directory that includes Silverstein Properties, Moody's Corporation, WestLB, Ameriprise Financial, Dutch bank ABN AMRO, and Mansueto Ventures, publisher of Fast Company and Inc. magazines. The building is developed, owned, and managed by Silverstein Properties.

 

 

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Just build it and move on. I do feel it could be in a better location but skylines fill in over time. The ESB is still iconic but it can't be the tallest in Midtown forever (still will be the tallest but very close).

 

Wasn't the Woolworth Building close to the Twin Towers? And that whole area was filled in too.

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True, but the ESB has been here since the 1930s. If the building actually gets constructed I wouldn't care but the fact that it's so close to the ESB irritates me. Lower Manhattan didn't have that huge iconic skyscraper reaching into the skies like Midtown currently has.

 

The beauty of New York City is that our skyline is forever changing. That's just fact. If the people who own the Empire State Building can't handle that, then tough sh*t!

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You guys, like pretty much everyone else, are totally skipping over the part where they want to tear down the hotel pennsylvania..........

 

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http://www.hotelpenn.com/photo-tour.html

 

It was built by PRR in 1910. From a forum filled with transit enthusiasts and railfans, i'm somewhat surprised no one but me has mentioned it.

 

- A

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You guys, like pretty much everyone else, are totally skipping over the part where they want to tear down the hotel pennsylvania..........

 

It was built by PRR in 1910. From a forum filled with transit enthusiasts and railfans, i'm somewhat surprised no one but me has mentioned it.

 

- A

 

So? Why should the fact that the PRR built it change anything? It didn't mean jack sh*t for the old (much more historically significant) Penn Station.

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So? Why should the fact that the PRR built it change anything? It didn't mean jack sh*t for the old (much more historically significant) Penn Station.

 

Um, i think you need to do a little more research about the climate in the 50's & 60's when it came to preserving railroad stuff, it's when we lost the most, lots of stations closed, lots of terminals were combined etc.

 

It's 100 years old last month, and is where the spectators, handlers & owners stay for the westminster dog show every year, and it has also played host to many important gatherings over the years, and the general areas are beautifully decorated, in fact there has been a call to restore the original columned front entrance, currently there is marble hung on the original columns, they are still underneath.

 

- A

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Um, i think you need to do a little more research about the climate in the 50's & 60's when it came to preserving railroad stuff, it's when we lost the most, lots of stations closed, lots of terminals were combined etc.

 

- A

 

Yea just look at the old Penn station,that was a work of art,it looks alot better then Pennsylvania Plaza building.

 

 

That building that propose looks like a Giant Twinkie.

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Oh well. The owners of the Empire State Building shouldn't be complaining only a section of New Jersey and Queens can't see the Empire State Building. Overall the Empire State Building would still be visible from most of New York and New Jersey.

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Oh well. The owners of the Empire State Building shouldn't be complaining only a section of New Jersey and Queens can't see the Empire State Building. Overall the Empire State Building would still be visible from most of New York and New Jersey.

 

Where can you not see it from Queens???

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