Q43LTD Posted April 6, 2011 Share #1 Posted April 6, 2011 Which service pattern would you give what train and why? Would the return to the Bronx? Revive express service east of Forest Hills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova RTS 9147 Posted April 6, 2011 Share #2 Posted April 6, 2011 would be going to Lefferts Boulevard (And screw the people who refuse to transfer to the , there I said it!) and service would go back to pre 6/2010 patterns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of RedBirds Posted April 6, 2011 Share #3 Posted April 6, 2011 ( Would go to either 168th st or Jamaica-179th St To Coney Island Via BMT 4th Ave line Rush Hours. Exp To Bronx as and to Lefferts Blvd. Some via Brighton line or F. Some EXP In Manhatten to Either Queens or 207th St or 205th St D. Express in Brooklyn and Manhatten,also past Kew Gardens EXP To 179th St. Special <G> Via E,F,M,Or R To Coney Island EXP, Or Express in Bklyn. Special <L> Via J To Chambers St. Special (Mx) To Bklyn Old Route/ Exp In Queens. Super Express Via Sea Beach Exp,West End,Culver,or Brighton. Some Weekend Q's To Franklin Ave Via S. EXP In Manhatten Rush Hours Also Extended To 179th. IRT, 1 Special S From T.S.42nd St To Bklyn Bridge Via 6 LCL Both Directions, BMT some S trains run via Q to Coney Island or Brighton Beach, IND S extended to Euclid Via EXP Tracks Late Nights. Return Return Rush Hour And Midday to Bay Pkwy. Exp Rush Hours Chambers-242 St. Exp in Bronx. Exp in Bronx. Exp in Bronx Dyre to 180th or 238th St to 180th. 5 Super Express 6 trains run Exp from Pelham Bay To Bklyn Bridge,Also due to special S all 6 trains run exp during S runing on Lexington Ave. Return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sovetskii52 Posted April 6, 2011 Share #4 Posted April 6, 2011 Too many Express routes maybe? I think you have more Express routes than local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Express Posted April 6, 2011 Share #5 Posted April 6, 2011 ( Operates between 145th St and Prospect Park on weekends ( & swap northern terminals. & swap late night service patterns in Queens, with the being local and the being the 24/7 express. skip-stop service along the line. (Mx) returns as a Rush Hour Only Route. Operating between Bay Pkwy and Metropolitan Ave (6:40AM-9:30AM) & (3:15PM-7:45PM) extended to Jamaica-179th St w/increased headways increased service (some trains originanting/terminating at Crescent St) express Broadway Jct-Marcy Ave. returns in replacement of extended to Church Ave via Express. Extended to 14th Street Late Nights Bronx Express Service becomes permanent Express in Manhattan 24/7 Extended to 42nd-Grand Central late nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MTA Bus Posted April 6, 2011 Share #6 Posted April 6, 2011 Runs from Inwood - 207th St to Ozone Park - Lefferts Blvd or Far Rockaway - Mott Av via Express all times ( weekends from Bedford Park Blvd to Bay Parkway. Express on Concourse, 6th Av, 4th Av, and West End. To rockaway Park all times normal Select trains on weekend would run to Jamaica - 179 St. would run express 24/7 Trains that start at Kings Hwy go express to Church Av. Extended to either Queens Plaza or Forest Hills during weekends. Skip - Stop in both directions. (Mx) return on former route. express in Manhattan weekdays During Rush hours, trains would end or start at Ocean Parkway. Run 24/7 to Queens Replaced by Return and run to Church Av. Weekends 2 Av Extended to Kings Hwy on Sea Beach weekdays. Weekends Whitehall St. trains end or start at 137 st - City College Weekends certain trains run to New Lots Av Extended to Penn Station late nights. Bronx Express service AM and PM rush hour express service on dyre av line. ( After they fix the track) Late nights extend to Boweling Green (7)during rush hour, trains end at either 111 st or mets - willets point Return and run to either south ferry or new lots av Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted April 6, 2011 Share #7 Posted April 6, 2011 Alright, I'll take a shot at this... same via White Plains Road express, rush hours peak direction extended to South Ferry overnights same White Plains Road local, all times; extended to Grand Central via express late nights same same runs middays and evenings same ( runs weekends from 145 St to Brighton Beach same same same Hillside Avenue express all times except late nights extended to 179 St nights, weekends extended to Broad St all times same extended to 57 St weekends; to 179 St weekdays via Broadway Express, weekdays cut back to 57 St-7 Av runs to 71 Av all times Ditmars Blvd to Bay Pkwy (West End) during rush hours only via Broadway-Thru Local skip-stop extended throughout rush hours; special local trips reclassified as trains same (for all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotb16 Posted April 6, 2011 Share #8 Posted April 6, 2011 I'll take a crack: : becomes Bronx express during Rush hours, runs 24/7 express on 7th Avenue : runs to South Ferry late nights via 7th Avenue Local : runs 24/7 express on Lexington Avenue : becomes Bronx local during Rush hours, runs to Brooklyn Bridge late nights via Lexington Avenue local : 207th Street to Far Rockaway (: Bedford Park Blvd to Brighton Beach all times except late nights : 168th Street to Lefferts Blvd : runs full route weekends : becomes Broadway express via bridge all times (skipping 49th St) : runs to Astoria weekends : runs to 71st Avenue all times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted April 7, 2011 Share #9 Posted April 7, 2011 AM, mid-day, PM and evening the same....late nights express to/from Far Rockaway-Mott Avenue! AM, mid-day, PM and evening the same! AM, mid-day, PM and evening the same, replaced by late nights! Extend rush hour express time til 8:30pm via Concourse, mid-day and evening the same. Late nights express via 4th Avenue! During the PM rush every other train to Jamaica-179th Street, extend express service hours to Jamaica Center/Parsons-Archer til 8:30pm! AM and PM rush hours express via Culver, mid-day, evening and late nights the same! AM, mid-day, PM, evening and late nights the same...extend cars during the AM and PM rush to 6 cars! AM, mid-day, PM, evening and late nights the same...extend skip-stop during PM hours til 8:15pm! AM and PM rush to Bedford Park Blvd, mid-days, evening and late nights to/from Washington Heights-168th Street and Euclid Avenue! AM, mid-day, PM, evening and late nights the same! AM, mid-day, PM, evening and late nights the same! AM, mid-day, PM express via Broadway b/w 34th Street-Herald Square to Canal Street evening and late nights the same! AM, mid-day, PM, evening and late nights the same! AM, mid-day, PM, evening and late nights the same! Franklin Avenue and Rockaway Park-Beach 116th Street AM, mid-day, PM, evening and late nights the same! AM and PM rush hours extend times! AM and PM skip-stops, mid-day, evening and late nights the same! AM, mid-day and evening the same. PM rush every other train extend to New Lots Avenue. Late nights via 7th Avenue! AM, mid-day, PM and evening the same. Late nights to/from New Lots Avenue and Atlantic Avenue and Lenox Terminal-148th Street and 135th Street replaced by ! Mid-day, PM and evening the same. Late nights express via Lexington Avenue and Eastern Parkway! AM rush express via Jerome Avenue! Mid-day and evening the same! AM rush some trains from Nereid Avenue-238th Street, PM rush the same...some trains extend to New Lots Avenue and late nights Dyre Avenue Shuttle extend to 149th Street-Grand Concourse on upper level! AM, mid-day, evening and late night the same! Extend express hours to Pelham Bay Park til 9:45pm Mid-day and evening the same! To Manhattan extend hours til 12:45pm and to Flushing til 10:15pm! AM, mid-day, PM and evening the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baseball02 Posted April 7, 2011 Share #10 Posted April 7, 2011 Bring back the old brown , the , and the , make the express again! Hurry up with the and extend it into the Bronx and Brooklyn. Extend the to lefferts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRTFlushing7 Posted April 7, 2011 Share #11 Posted April 7, 2011 Same All time service (Local in Brooklyn) Express to Chambers (Local in Brooklyn) Regular service, Express in Brooklyn (Terminal at Crown Heights-Utica) Express to Brooklyn, Terminal in Flatbush Terminal(s) Bowling Green or City Hall All time service Far Rockaway All Times (Express) Lefferts All Times, Also extended to Bedford Pk. Blvd Rockaway Beach (Express in peak direction rush hours) Gone with the wind Takes over after 145th Street Regular route Via 53rd Street, Express in Brooklyn (peak direction) Takes over train route (63rd Street) :confused: Rush hours to Coney Island in peak direction (J)/(Z) Regular route to Broad, <R> Begins at Chambers or Broad to Bay Pkway All time express Express (Astoria Express, peak direction, All times to Astoria) Regular route Revived from 57th Street (All times, Local to 86th Street) Whatever, same. Franklin stays, GCT-TQS All Nighter, Rockaway: GONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted April 8, 2011 Share #12 Posted April 8, 2011 add Skip-Stop service 24/7 Exp same service same service 24/7 Exp same service same service 24/7 Express!!! ( same service 24/7 service to and from Lefferts and 168!! same service 24/7 Express!! same service full length trains or R160s (J)/(Z) allow more time for skip-stop service in both peak directions! same service same service same service same service Run the to queens during late nights I see Many members really want the to Lefferts...but if its ridership or the one seat express ride into the city, then whynot push for the to Far Rockaway? that branch has low ridership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted April 8, 2011 Share #13 Posted April 8, 2011 24/7 Express!! I hope you mean after 71 Avenue, otherwise late nights there will be no QBL local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted April 8, 2011 Share #14 Posted April 8, 2011 I hope you mean after 71 Avenue, otherwise late nights there will be no QBL local. Read his entire thread again....you'll see why he said 24/7 express service! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted April 8, 2011 Share #15 Posted April 8, 2011 Read his entire thread again....you'll see why he said 24/7 express service! >.< I just spotted "® run late nights"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted April 8, 2011 Share #16 Posted April 8, 2011 I am only going to use existing infrastructure for now. : No longer serves Ozone Park-Lefferts Boulevard (Replaced by the ). (: Service on the Concourse Line will run at all times except late nights. : Extended to Ozone Park-Lefferts Boulevard. : Normal service. : Normal service. : A new express that would run on the express tracks on the Culver Line. Runs express along Bergen Street to Ditmas Avenue. Express service would be peak directional from Ditmas Avenue to Coney Island. : Extended to Avenue X to give the access to the Coney Island Yards, and to provide a higher TPH on the Culver Line. : Normal service. : Normal service : Add skip stop service called the onto the Canarsie Line to speed up service. : Normal service. : Runs express on the Broadway Line again. The is brought back as the Broadway Local. : Normal service : Normal service All (S)'s: Normal service : Reincarnated as the Broadway Local. Runs at all times except late nights. Runs from Bay Parkway to Astoria-Ditmars Boulevard. Fills in the (Mx)'s gap. : Normal service. : Normal service. : Normal service. : Normal service. : Normal service. : Normal service. : Normal service. : Normal service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 8, 2011 Share #17 Posted April 8, 2011 would be going to Lefferts Boulevard (And screw the people who refuse to transfer to the , there I said it!) and service would go back to pre 6/2010 patterns. I'd counter that with: the Rockaways would be given back to the LIRR and Lefferts would be the only terminal for the , so HA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpomarx42 Posted April 9, 2011 Share #18 Posted April 9, 2011 Rush hours/Weekends to Rockaways only, Late nights to Lefferts only ( Returns to West End, Rush hours to Washington Heights, Weekend service to Harlem, Late night shuttle to Pacific Street Rush hours runs from Bedford Park to Lefferts, Weekends to Lefferts, Late nights to World Trade Center Returns to Brighton No changes Culver Express to Kings Highway in Rush Hours (peak direction) Runs to Forest Hills Weekends/Late Nights Late night local from Euclid Avenue-Far Rockaway Terminates at Chambers Street weekends Skip-stop service on Canarsie Line to Broadway Junction (peak only) Skip-stop service to Broadway Junction (Peak only) (Mx) Returns to Nassau/West End, runs to 9th Avenue weekdays/weekends, Bay Parkway rush hours, Myrtle Avenue Shuttle late nights Broadway Express weekdays/rush hours, Sea Beach express rush hours, Broadway Local (via Bridge) weekends, Broadway local (via Tunnel) late nights Runs from Forest Hills (exp on QBL) to Brighton Beach Rush hour express from Jamaica Center to Brighton Beach Late nights extended to City Hall (reverses at Canal Street) No changes Runs Forest Hills - Church Avenue on weekdays, weekends terminates at 2nd Avenue, no late night service Runs local from Astoria to Whitehall St on weekdays, rush hours extended to 86th/Gravesend, no late night/weekend service No changes No changes No changes No changes No changes No changes Extended to 241st/Wakefield rush hours No changes No changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted April 10, 2011 Share #19 Posted April 10, 2011 - Some extra service? - Bronx Express Rush Hours and 24/7 Manhattan Express - I'd take the current AM Rush Hour put-ins from 96th St and start them from 137th St instead with some extra put-ins; Late nights local to South Ferry. - Late nights express in Manhattan - Weekday Service to Flatbush Ave extended; the last train arrives at Flatbush Ave at 9:30 PM instead of 8:20 PM; I'm tempted to extend Brooklyn Service even further but I'm trying to be kind of realistic; Late night service is local to Brooklyn Bridge. - Extend Express Service until 9:00 PM (with a little extra service during that time) - I'd say more service, but I guess it's not that easy... - Weekday express service starts just a little earlier and ends about an hour later; First Manhattan-bound express train leaves Euclid Ave at 5:34 AM instead of 5:56 AM; Last Manhattan-bound express train leaves Euclid Ave at 11:24 PM instead of 10:22 PM similar extensions for weekend express service; Just a couple of extra trains during the worst parts of Rush Hour; PM Rush Hour trains to Rockaway Park start at Dyckman St instead of 168th St like they do now; Service to and from Rockaway Park is extended, with one extra train 20 minutes earlier and one extra train 20 minutes later in both directions. (From B116 St: 6:18, 6:37, 6:55, 7:17, 7:37, 7:57, 8:17 AM) (From Dyckman St: 3:36, 3:55, 4:16, 4:35, 4:56, 5:16, 5:36 PM) ( - Service to the Bronx extended. The first PM Rush train to the Bronx leaves Brighton Beach at 2:28 PM instead of 2:58 PM and the last train to the Bronx leaves at 8:11 PM instead of 5:43 PM - Full length trains; Also Weekday service is extended (From Euclid Ave: 5:34 AM to 11:22 PM instead of 5:57 AM to 10:19 PM) - Express Service in the Bronx extended PM Rush Hours (From Coney Island: 2:28 PM to 8:01 PM instead of 3:02 PM to 5:31 PM) - A bit more service at the beginning of AM Rush Hour; Last Weekday express train leaves World Trade Center at 12:38 AM instead of 11:50 PM) - Ideally, Express service in Brooklyn: Trains to Coney Island are express to Church Ave and trains to Kings Highway (along with another line [the ?]) are local; Even more ideally there'd be express service to Kings Highway, but 3 tracks and lack of switches in some places make that a PITA to implement - Preferrably Weekend/Night service to Forest Hills, but you know the ... - I think the Jamaica Ave Line needs an entire physical overhaul to unlock its true potential, but that's another story. - I had this crazy idea for a 3rd (or 3rd and 4th!) express track(s) below the existing track between Broadway Junction and 8th Ave stopping only at Express stations (8th Ave, Broadway Junction, 1st Ave, Bedford Ave, Lormier St, Myrtle Ave and Broadway Junction) with Broadway Junction designed t be a terminus for local trains, but it's pretty impossible to make, thanks to places like Wilson Ave. - Eh, I guess the 6th Ave service should stay. But Culver Express.... - I don't know where to add extra service without clogging... - Moar Rush Hour trains to 57th St (Every 6 mins in the morning...) - Shuttle service hours are slightly shortened, main line service is slightly extended; I'm tempted to say "Extend to 179th St to allow for a Hillside Express, but I don't know if it will work out." - Nothing much. - Since yesterday. - See the above I'll respond later with my thoughts about infrastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted April 10, 2011 Share #20 Posted April 10, 2011 Oh yeah I would also extend the back up to Forest Hills-71 Street to provide extra service to the IND Queens Boulevard Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted April 10, 2011 Share #21 Posted April 10, 2011 New and/or improved Infrastructure (Note: This is more fantasy than anything) The Jamaica line is four tracks from 121st St to Marcy Ave. Woodhaven Blvd is converted into an express station with two island platforms, likewise for Marcy Ave, Myrtle Ave and Broadway Junction. One set of tracks (the “local” tracks) is the current route. Another set of tracks (the express tracks) run straight down Jamaica Ave, non-stop between Woodhaven Blvd and Broadway Junction; crossover tracks around Cypress Hills allow switching between routes with additional crossover tracks around Woodhaven Blvd too. At Marcy Ave, the two tracks from the Williamsburg Bridge split into four tracks outside the Western end of the station. During Rush Hours, the runs between Jamaica and Forest Hills via Jamaica Ave Express and 6th Ave/Queens Blvd Local, while the returns to Southern Brooklyn Middays and Rush Hours and to, the is eliminated and the is local. Ideally, on weekends the and would both run to Broad St. On the Lexington Ave line, the two local tracks continue from Brooklyn Bridge to Bowling Green; Fulton St, Wall St, and Bowling Green are converted to express stations with four tracks and two island platforms; the two local tracks are connected to the Inner South Ferry loop. Between 125th St and 42nd St – Grand Central, the express and local tracks are all on one level. The Nostrand Ave line is extended south (can’t decide down Nostrand Ave or Flatbush Ave.) But before that, Brooklyn College-Flatbush Ave station is revamped. End of station removed, now Flatbush Ave has three tracks, with the three tracks extending to make a mini-yard, similar to the 174th St Yard.. All trains discharge on one platform (which has two tracks, to avoid congestion from trains waiting to enter the station) and pick-up passengers on another platform; one set of tracks beyond the station is used for turning around trains with another pair below those tracks for turning around trains, and a couple of tracks on a separate lower level are for storage. The Archer Ave line is extended out East. Where? I don’t know. But before that, the crossover between Sutphin Blvd and Jamaica Center is moved to right outside Jamaica Center, for maximum efficiency. Also, storage tracks are added beyond Archer Ave. Canarise Line: See my previous post. Also, all three-track lines should become four tracks, just for the lulz and extra express service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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