Cait Sith Posted May 19, 2008 Share #1 Posted May 19, 2008 Today I saw an R160 train that was out of the ordinary. Alstom AND siemens trains were coupled together. 8833-8837 and 8848-8852. I have 3 videos of them and I'll upload them a lil bit later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainExp Posted May 19, 2008 Share #2 Posted May 19, 2008 That is wierd...can't wait for the videos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted May 19, 2008 Here are the Videos! You can hear the propulsion switches in these 3 clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdotny Posted May 19, 2008 Share #4 Posted May 19, 2008 I wonder why they did that. I was one of those trains, too. I was on the Siemens set, but then I heard the Alstom on the other end. It sounds like the MTA is mixing Siemens with Alstom. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted May 19, 2008 Share #5 Posted May 19, 2008 WHAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Thats just oh noes, what is that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 19, 2008 Share #6 Posted May 19, 2008 It certainly sounded like it. Great catch there. You would catch me on the Siemens side. That doesn't read right does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted May 19, 2008 Share #7 Posted May 19, 2008 nice catch they are testing to see if siemens sets can run with astom sets in service. The MTA did the same thing with the R142/A in 2000 theres a pic of it on daves site. I kinda feel sorry for the T/O who had to operate that train. Being that the siemens brakes slide and and the astom onix brakes dont. Must have made for some interesting stops LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainExp Posted May 19, 2008 Share #8 Posted May 19, 2008 Truely amazing...I think they only did that because of the Alstom upgrade. That's just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share #9 Posted May 19, 2008 I rode on both sets. They seemed to be working fine. Over the weekend, some siemens sets had their brakes checked and wheels checked so these sets were running just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted May 19, 2008 Share #10 Posted May 19, 2008 Interesting stuff... Good catch like someone else said maybe this is the "upgrade" that the Alstom trains are getting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted May 19, 2008 Share #11 Posted May 19, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share #12 Posted May 20, 2008 I wonder why they did that. I was one of those trains, too. I was on the Siemens set, but then I heard the Alstom on the other end. It sounds like the MTA is mixing Siemens with Alstom. :eek: What car and when?! I first saw this coupling at 14th street around 12:50PM, seen in one of the videos. I thought it was a normal alstom train, but NOPE. To my surprise came a mixed set of Alstom and Siemens Trains. If this is a test set and all goes well, this would put less stress on the sets. I hope things goes well and they continue to put more trains like this along the lines and future lines of the Q and W. I rode both running sets and it was great. Standing near the conductor's spot listening to both propulsions running at the same time was awesome ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68 Subway Car Posted May 20, 2008 Share #13 Posted May 20, 2008 What the ****? Awesome find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdotny Posted May 20, 2008 Share #14 Posted May 20, 2008 What car and when?! I first saw this coupling at 14th street around 12:50PM, seen in one of the videos. I thought it was a normal alstom train, but NOPE. To my surprise came a mixed set of Alstom and Siemens Trains. If this is a test set and all goes well, this would put less stress on the sets. I hope things goes well and they continue to put more trains like this along the lines and future lines of the Q and W. I rode both running sets and it was great. Standing near the conductor's spot listening to both propulsions running at the same time was awesome ! I was on 8848 around 9:30 during rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 20, 2008 Share #15 Posted May 20, 2008 Hey is that error and Phil doing what they do best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share #16 Posted May 20, 2008 I was on 8848 around 9:30 during rush. aye, i was in both 8848 and 8833 at 2:10 PM Edit : WTF?! My video made its way to subchat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 20, 2008 Share #17 Posted May 20, 2008 Just thinking now reminded me.... saw a mixed consist 8-10 weeks ago, but as i'm not well informed about the model numbers i'll just say it was 2 different NTT as you could see the HVAC unit under the seat (side seats) in the next car from the car i was in, but the car i was in... was a kawasaki car with the blue seats and nothing under them and that light color trim and electronic status displays. I am pretty sure this was either times square or herald square as i was heading to shea to get tickets & pricing on the (7x) later in the day from the same station after coming from the 5th ave apple store. Wish my memory was better. - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share #18 Posted May 20, 2008 Because of this particular R160 Train, it threw off my planned sessions of recording. But this was a real surprise to many. People thought that there was something wrong with the train. I didnt believe it myself. When I first caught it at 14th street, I kept repeating the camera replay to see if that was actually 8833 and 8848 lashed up together. I didnt believe it until I caught it again at 42nd street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D. Posted May 20, 2008 Share #19 Posted May 20, 2008 I collapsed and fell out of my chair when i first watched these videos. That shit must sound amazing in person. If I try to get a video of those trains, I might pass out and collapse on the platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 20, 2008 Share #20 Posted May 20, 2008 Yes, that was the same sound i heard when i noticed the difference between the interiors *just looked at the videos*. - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTransitFan Posted May 20, 2008 Share #21 Posted May 20, 2008 The mix mashing has officially begun. Is this the first confirmed report of a mixed set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 20, 2008 Share #22 Posted May 20, 2008 The mix mashing has officially begun. Is this the first confirmed report of a mixed set? The only other mixed set i've seen were redbirds hooked to something or other at corona yard, but they were not in regular service. - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTransitFan Posted May 20, 2008 Share #23 Posted May 20, 2008 The only other mixed set i've seen were redbirds hooked to something or other at corona yard, but they were not in regular service. - Andy Sorry, of the R160's I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainExp Posted May 20, 2008 Share #24 Posted May 20, 2008 I think that will be the ONLY set that will be mixed. Somebody said that the R142s and R142As mixed a while back, but do you see em mixed now? NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted May 20, 2008 Share #25 Posted May 20, 2008 At least they can run togther unlike R44/46 when they were new. Of all the post war cars they were the first that could not run with th older cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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