East New York Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share #51 Posted April 26, 2012 The BTE Overview Report has been put on hold once again ladies and gentleman. In light of new information, the entire BTE section will be revised. Changes and updates for Orion, New Flyer, Nova, Prevost, and Millennium included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share #52 Posted June 24, 2012 The XD60 has now officially been added to the BTE roster as the pilot bus will be delivered immediately. The BTE prelim. overview report will now be complete at the end of July as the CAS XD40 fleet has now been in service for an ample amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted June 24, 2012 Share #53 Posted June 24, 2012 The XD60 has now officially been added to the BTE roster as the pilot bus will be delivered immediately. The BTE prelim. overview report will now be complete at the end of July as the CAS XD40 fleet has now been in service for an ample amount of time. So the Xcelsior won BT&E? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share #54 Posted June 24, 2012 So the Xcelsior won BT&E? No. The evaluation just began, and will not be complete until next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted June 24, 2012 Share #55 Posted June 24, 2012 Which depots will get the XD-60s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share #56 Posted June 24, 2012 Fleet numbers, and depot assignments (when available) are always found on the first page of this thread, The Fleet & Depots thread, and the individual bus model threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share #57 Posted August 27, 2012 NBQP preliminary review delayed until tomorrow night in light of new developements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlcohen Posted January 1, 2013 Share #58 Posted January 1, 2013 Happy New Year! Is there any new info (official or unofficial) on which bus is performing better - the XD40 or LFS? It's a shame Orion has left the industry. I think the 3G is a great bus to ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted January 1, 2013 Share #59 Posted January 1, 2013 We might find that out within this summer or so..... Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share #60 Posted January 4, 2013 Happy New Year! Is there any new info (official or unofficial) on which bus is performing better - the XD40 or LFS? It's a shame Orion has left the industry. I think the 3G is a great bus to ride. Yes, It was actually posted in the individual threads and the fleet thread if I am not mistaken. The evaluation is complete for the Xcelsior and the LFS. However, extensive details will not be posted until after the contract award. Bus 0057 (2013 Nova LFS) is being delivered to Zerega for evaluation. Expect a New Flyer soon. Both buses completed the NBQP, and are now qualified builders for the MTA. The new order(s) this summer will likely be made up of a mix of Xcelsiors and LFS's. I am 98% sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engr08 Posted January 4, 2013 Share #61 Posted January 4, 2013 A mixture is good. It would be kinda boring seing the same bus all around the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B17EastNewYorkDepot Posted January 4, 2013 Share #62 Posted January 4, 2013 Bus 0057 (2013 Nova LFS) is being delivered to Zerega for evaluation. Expect a New Flyer soon. Are these Hybrids or just a 2013 Diesel model and what will be the difference in these models from the original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted January 5, 2013 Share #63 Posted January 5, 2013 Team Neutral doesn't get that score one yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted January 5, 2013 Share #64 Posted January 5, 2013 Are these Hybrids or just a 2013 Diesel model and what will be the difference in these models from the original If anything, it should have the new rear design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted January 5, 2013 Share #65 Posted January 5, 2013 Most likely this is the new rear. or perhaps what the demo should look like http://www.novabus.com/documents/images/NovaFlash/Dec%202012%20-%20Jan%202013/NewRearDesign_big2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 5, 2013 Share #66 Posted January 5, 2013 Most likely this is the new rear. or perhaps what the demo should look like http://www.novabus.c...Design_big2.jpg Last i heard, the MTA, along with SEPTA wanted the LFS rear window removed. I actually think it would look better like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted January 5, 2013 Share #67 Posted January 5, 2013 Last i heard, the MTA, along with SEPTA wanted the LFS rear window removed. I actually think it would look better like that. So we are getting more LFS's then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share #68 Posted January 5, 2013 The thing is, most times the people making the decisions don't operate buses, or haven't in a long time. I have heard some say they don't like the rear window, but one one single agreement among drivers. I have surveyed operators from every depot that has Nova's and have yet to hear a complaint about the windows. #1 Complaint is the Carrier HVAC. Same goes for the Prevost. Last night I was on LFSA #5931, and the heat was very weak to me. It did a pretty good job of keeping us comfortable, but could have definitely been a little longer. There have been, and seemingly continue to be Carrier issues across the city. I'm going to revise my initial overview, and still post it as I originally planned. However, now that the procurement is slightly behind schedule, I will leave a few things out, and just report the basic pro's and con's of the LFS and Xcelsior. In addition to the classified deal MTA is working on as we speak, detail of yet another have come to light for 90 test buses. This test offering is classified at this time as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted January 5, 2013 Share #69 Posted January 5, 2013 The thing is, most times the people making the decisions don't operate buses, or haven't in a long time. I have heard some say they don't like the rear window, but one one single agreement among drivers. I have surveyed operators from every depot that has Nova's and have yet to hear a complaint about the windows. #1 Complaint is the Carrier HVAC. Same goes for the Prevost. Last night I was on LFSA #5931, and the heat was very weak to me. It did a pretty good job of keeping us comfortable, but could have definitely been a little longer. There have been, and seemingly continue to be Carrier issues across the city. I'm going to revise my initial overview, and still post it as I originally planned. However, now that the procurement is slightly behind schedule, I will leave a few things out, and just report the basic pro's and con's of the LFS and Xcelsior. In addition to the classified deal MTA is working on as we speak, detail of yet another have come to light for 90 test buses. This test offering is classified at this time as well. So wait, I lost track. How many sets of 90 BTE buses are coming (besides the 3 that are already here)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted January 5, 2013 Share #70 Posted January 5, 2013 So wait, I lost track. How many sets of 90 BTE buses are coming (besides the 3 that are already here)? well this is the whole list of BT&Es the 1200 Novas 1200-1289 the 8000 Novas 8000-8089 the 7000 Orions 7000-7089 the 4800 New Flyers 4810-4899 the 2400 Prevost 2400-2489 the 4700 New Flyers 4710-4799 now 1 more is coming for 90 buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 5, 2013 Share #71 Posted January 5, 2013 The thing is, most times the people making the decisions don't operate buses, or haven't in a long time. I have heard some say they don't like the rear window, but one one single agreement among drivers. I have surveyed operators from every depot that has Nova's and have yet to hear a complaint about the windows. #1 Complaint is the Carrier HVAC. Same goes for the Prevost. Last night I was on LFSA #5931, and the heat was very weak to me. It did a pretty good job of keeping us comfortable, but could have definitely been a little longer. There have been, and seemingly continue to be Carrier issues across the city. I'm going to revise my initial overview, and still post it as I originally planned. However, now that the procurement is slightly behind schedule, I will leave a few things out, and just report the basic pro's and con's of the LFS and Xcelsior. In addition to the classified deal MTA is working on as we speak, detail of yet another have come to light for 90 test buses. This test offering is classified at this time as well. Fair enough. Regarding the rear window of the LFS, I'm almost certain SEPTA will exclude it for advertisement space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted January 5, 2013 Share #72 Posted January 5, 2013 So wait, I lost track. How many sets of 90 BTE buses are coming (besides the 3 that are already here)? There's one more, the one I heard was going to be for Gillig BRTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted January 6, 2013 Share #73 Posted January 6, 2013 There's one more, the one I heard was going to be for Gillig BRTs. I'll wait until I hear Gillig BRTs are confirmed then we can all make a debate about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted January 6, 2013 Share #74 Posted January 6, 2013 Fair enough. Regarding the rear window of the LFS, I'm almost certain SEPTA will exclude it for advertisement space. It is for advertisement space. SEPTA is picky like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted January 21, 2013 Share #75 Posted January 21, 2013 I'll wait until I hear Gillig BRTs are confirmed then we can all make a debate about that. They look good enough. If they can be built to MTA standards in terms of beefier suspension and stronger frames, they'd be good buses for NYC. They're simple in design and build, so they're probably cheap to maintain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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