NX Express Posted September 8, 2012 Share #2401 Posted September 8, 2012 In essence, that means no trains can use 145 St lower level. Thus: No trains between 145 St and Bronx. Trains run OOS to 168 St to relay. No trains between 145 St and 161 St. Trains run OOS to Dyckman St to relay. NEXT Church Av is impassable. Reroute: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted September 8, 2012 Share #2402 Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) NEXT Church Av is impassable. Reroute: No service b/w Prospect Park & Brighton Beach. Select trains via Brighton Express to Kings Highway. Via Brighton Local to Kings Highway. Single-tracked shuttles run b/w Kings Highway & Beverly Road. Edited September 8, 2012 by TrainFanInfinity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2403 Posted September 9, 2012 ... NEXT: All switches between 125th Street and 145th Street are set to the STRAIGHT position. This means that any train that enters 125th Street must go to 145th Street top level on the same track they started on, and vice versa going the other way. Extended to 168th St Extended to 190th St (Some trains may start at Dyckman, if necessary) 205th St-161st St 161st St-145th St (Two single tracked shuttles) (Express to Burnside) Makes all local stops to Bedford Park Blvd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2404 Posted September 9, 2012 Canal St on the 8th Avenue line is impassable. Reroute . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2405 Posted September 9, 2012 ... NEXT: All switches between 125th Street and 145th Street are set to the STRAIGHT position. This means that any train that enters 125th Street must go to 145th Street top level on the same track they started on, and vice versa going the other way. trains in Manhattan run to 168th Street with the . trains in the Bronx go OOS at Bedford Park Blvd and return to the yard. Manhattan-bound trains run to Tremont Avenue or 161st Street and relay. trains in Manhattan run to 168th Street or with the then go OOS and relay on the tracks to the yard. trains in the Bronx run from 161st Street to 205th Street. If trains are on the express track they return to the local track ASAP. Some trains go OOS at Beford Park and return to the yard. All trains between 161st and 145th run CPW express. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2406 Posted September 9, 2012 Next: Year: 1920 There is a track fire at 200 Street on the 3rd Avenue Elevated. Reroute trains. Use this for reference: http://www.nycsubway...20-elevated.gif Trains run to Bronx Park. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2407 Posted September 9, 2012 Canal St on the 8th Avenue line is impassable. Reroute . trains run in two sections, Rockaways/Lefferts to Chambers Street and 34th Street-Penn Station to 207th Street. trains run via the between West 4th and Jay Street-MetroTech. trains run to 34th Street-Penn. For service between West 4th Street and Chambers Street take a or train stopping around most and/or stops. Transfer is available to the or at 42nd Street-PABT and Chambers Street/WTC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2408 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) Canal St on the 8th Avenue line is impassable. Reroute . As I would do it: Lefferts-bound trains operate via the from West 4th-Jay Street (local from 59th-West 4th Street) Far Rockaway and Rockaway Park trains operate to and from Chambers Street via regular route. trains operate in two sections: 168th Street, Manhattan-Metropolitan Avenue, Queens, operating via the from West 4th-Metropolitan Avenue and replacing the between those points. Chambers Street, Manhattan-Euclid Avenue, Brooklyn. operates to/from 14th Street, Manhattan (skipping 23rd Street, which is closed). operates via 8th Avenue from 5th Avenue-34th Street-Penn Station, where it terminates ( replaces the from West 4th Street south). Edited September 9, 2012 by Wallyhorse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2409 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) As I would do it: Lefferts-bound trains operate via the from West 4th-Jay Street (local from 59th-West 4th Street) Far Rockaway and Rockaway Park trains operate to and from Chambers Street via regular route. trains operate in two sections: 168th Street, Manhattan-Metropolitan Avenue, Queens, operating via the from West 4th-Metropolitan Avenue and replacing the between those points. Chambers Street, Manhattan-Euclid Avenue, Brooklyn. operates to/from 14th Street, Manhattan (skipping 23rd Street, which is closed). operates via 8th Avenue from 5th Avenue-34th Street-Penn Station, where it terminates ( replaces the from West 4th Street south). You do realize that the R46's can't run to Metropolitan? #awks Edited September 9, 2012 by Threxx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2410 Posted September 9, 2012 Canal St on the 8th Avenue line is impassable. Reroute . Trains run via the between West 4 St and Jay St. Trains also run local in Manhattan. No trains between 168 St and Chambers St. No trains between 34 St-Penn Station and WTC. No trains between Chambers St and 71 Av. Trains in Queens run as trains between 71 Av and Whitehall St. Some northbound trains terminate at 57 St to avoid delays with the extra service. NEXT 23 St/B'way is impassable. Reroute: NOTE: Assume that this scenario occurs when the SAS is built, with an X-over at Grand St with the B/D tracks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share #2411 Posted September 9, 2012 The year is 1999, the last year of manhattan bridge rehab. Unfortunately, while building it becomes unstable and falls apart. You need a long term solution for this, and this change is meant to last st least 10 years. Oh, and dont throw 400000 TPH in the Montague Tunnel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2412 Posted September 9, 2012 The year is 1999, the last year of manhattan bridge rehab. Unfortunately, while building it becomes unstable and falls apart. You need a long term solution for this, and this change is meant to last st least 10 years. Oh, and dont throw 400000 TPH in the Montague Tunnel. , and service is cut to 7 TPH each in Brooklyn. trains are split, with orange 's and trains running 34th Street-205th Street and yellow 's running 42nd Street-Coney Island via Montague. and trains run via Montague at all times. trains run to Astoria all times, and some trains turn at Prospect Park to avoid overloading. trains run normally, with some trains turning at Whitehall Street or Canal Street. Montague TPH: : 7 TPH : 7 TPH : 10 TPH : 7 TPH south of Whitehall Street. 34 TPH. Please expect delays during this time. NEXT 23 St/B'way is impassable. Reroute: NOTE: Assume that this scenario occurs when the SAS is built, with an X-over at Grand St with the B/D tracks. : Astoria-34th Street and Whitehall Street-Coney Island. : 96th Street-34th Street and Whitehall Street-Coney Island. : via 6th Avenue and 63rd Street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2413 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) The year is 1999, the last year of manhattan bridge rehab. Unfortunately, while building it becomes unstable and falls apart. You need a long term solution for this, and this change is meant to last st least 10 years. Oh, and dont throw 400000 TPH in the Montague Tunnel. Trains run between the Bronx and Church Av, via Culver. Trains run between the Bronx and Kings Hwy, via Culver. Brooklyn section runs full-time between Pacific St and Coney Island via West End. Transfer at 4 Av/9 St for service to Manhattan. via tunnel and local throughout the route. The last stop on some northbound trains is Pacific St. Transfer at 4 Av/9 St for service to Manhattan. Restored and sent via tunnel to Times Sq/42 St at 15tph peak. No trains between 34 St-Herald Sq and Brighton Beach. Transfer to the at 34 St. This train is relabelled during this time to avoid confusion with trains. Overview: ____________BEFORE______AFTER Brighton____________.___ Montague_________ West End_____________ NEXT The year is 1987, and 47 St/6 Av is impassable. Reroute: Use this for reference: http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/maps/system_1987.gif Edited September 9, 2012 by NX Express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2414 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) As I would do it: Lefferts-bound trains operate via the from West 4th-Jay Street (local from 59th-West 4th Street) Far Rockaway and Rockaway Park trains operate to and from Chambers Street via regular route. trains operate in two sections: 168th Street, Manhattan-Metropolitan Avenue, Queens, operating via the from West 4th-Metropolitan Avenue and replacing the between those points. Chambers Street, Manhattan-Euclid Avenue, Brooklyn. operates to/from 14th Street, Manhattan (skipping 23rd Street, which is closed). operates via 8th Avenue from 5th Avenue-34th Street-Penn Station, where it terminates ( replaces the from West 4th Street south). Why flip around the and ? You could just terminate the at 34 St and the at Metropolitan Avenue. Crazy reroutes are better to avoid. Edited September 9, 2012 by TheSubwayStation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2415 Posted September 9, 2012 Trains run between the Bronx and Church Av, via Culver. Trains run between the Bronx and Kings Hwy, via Culver. Brooklyn section runs full-time between Pacific St and Coney Island via West End. Transfer at 4 Av/9 St for service to Manhattan. via tunnel and local throughout the route. The last stop on some northbound trains is Pacific St. Transfer at 4 Av/9 St for service to Manhattan. Restored and sent via tunnel to Times Sq/42 St at 15tph peak. No trains between 34 St-Herald Sq and Brighton Beach. Transfer to the at 34 St. This train is relabelled during this time to avoid confusion with trains. Overview: ____________BEFORE______AFTER Brighton____________.___ Montague_________ West End_____________ NEXT The year is 1987, and 47 St/6 Av is impassable. Reroute: Use this for reference: http://www.nycsubway...system_1987.gif : Via 8th Avenue to 34th Street. : No service south of 145th Street. : No service south of 59th Street. : Via 8th Avenue local. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2416 Posted September 9, 2012 The year is 1999, the last year of manhattan bridge rehab. Unfortunately, while building it becomes unstable and falls apart. You need a long term solution for this, and this change is meant to last st least 10 years. Oh, and dont throw 400000 TPH in the Montague Tunnel. Well, then, we would just go back with the 's "TSM-C": Terminal line Brooklyn route TPH Crossing Manhattan route Crossing Route Terminal 34th Street__ ___________ 9 6th Ave local CPW/Concourse Bedford Pk 34th Street__ __________ 10 6th Ave express CPW/Concourse 205th St Coney Island Culver Local 14 Rutgers 6th Ave local 63rd St. Queens Blvd 179th St. Coney Island Culver Exp* 8 Rutgers 8th Ave. Local 53rd St. Queens Blvd 71st St. Euclid Ave._ Fulton Local 12 Cranberry 8th Ave. Express Wash. Heights 207th St. Rockwy/Lef. Fulton Express 18 Cranberry 8th Ave. Express 53rd St. Queens Blvd. Parsons/Archer Broad St. ( M ) 7 Nassau St. local Myrtle Metropolitan Coney Island Sea Bch local 8 Montague Broadway local 60th St Astoria Ditmars Blvd Coney Island Brighton Exp* 12 Montague Broadway Exp 57 St. Brighton Bch Brighton local 7 Botanic Gardens/Franklin Ave (alt)* 95th Street__ 4th Ave. Local 8 Montague Broadway Local 60th St Queens Blvd. 71st St. Coney Island_ West End local 9 Pacific St. Grand Street_ S 6 Bway-Lafayette *Differs from the actual plan. With it being that long term, it would then be justified to upgrade the Franklin Shuttle to two full length tracks and full length stations. (there were provisions made in the renovated line for this). It would also then be a good idea to build the transfer passageway between Grand and Bowery, and then you wouldn't need the shuttle; people could still enter at Grand, but then it would lead to Bowery, also bringing more people to the station, making it safer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2417 Posted September 9, 2012 Canal St on the 8th Avenue line is impassable. Reroute . Via Rutgers Street - 8th Avenue Local. No service b/w 14 Street & Chambers Street - World Trade Center. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2418 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) NEXT 23 St/B'way is impassable. Reroute: NOTE: Assume that this scenario occurs when the SAS is built, with an X-over at Grand St with the B/D tracks. No service b/w Canal Street & 34 Street-Herald Square. Via 2nd Avenue Line. No service b/w Canal Street & 34 Street-Herald Square. Select trains run via Manhattan Bridge - 2nd Avenue - 63 Street. Edited September 9, 2012 by TrainFanInfinity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2419 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) The year is 1999, the last year of manhattan bridge rehab. Unfortunately, while building it becomes unstable and falls apart. You need a long term solution for this, and this change is meant to last st least 10 years. Oh, and dont throw 400000 TPH in the Montague Tunnel. All trains cut to 5 TPH. Via Montague Street Tunnel - Broadway Express. to Times Square-42 Street. to 57 St/7 Av No service b/w Marcy Avenue & Brooklyn. If not.... Runs in two sections: Between The Bronx & Lower East Side-2 Avenue or 34 Street-Herald Square. Between Times Square-42 Street & Brooklyn, via Broadway Express - Montague Street Tunnel. Runs in two sections: Between The Bronx & Lower East Side-2 Avenue. Between Times Square-42 Street & Brooklyn via Broadway Express - Montague Street Tunnel. No service b/w 59 Street & 57 Street-7 Avenue. No service b/w DeKalb Avenue & 34 Street-Herald Square. Edited September 9, 2012 by TrainFanInfinity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2420 Posted September 9, 2012 Via Rutgers Street - 8th Avenue Local. Too many TPH on one track. NEXT: Manhattan bound express track at 65 St is impassible. Rules: don't overload the QBL local tracks, and Manhattan below 42 St must be served with the same number of TPH as usual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2421 Posted September 9, 2012 Too many TPH on one track. NEXT: Manhattan bound express track at 65 St is impassible. Rules: don't overload the QBL local tracks, and Manhattan below 42 St must be served with the same number of TPH as usual. via local. Some Queensbound terminate at Queens Plaza, some Queensbound terminate at 21 St Queensbridge. Better to have some delays than to force people to make extra transfers are have extreme overcrowding at those stations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2422 Posted September 9, 2012 via local. Some Queensbound terminate at Queens Plaza, some Queensbound terminate at 21 St Queensbridge. Better to have some delays than to force people to make extra transfers are have extreme overcrowding at those stations. But your solution causes severe delays, crowding and transferring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2423 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) and trains run local and select Queens bound trains terminate at 57th St. All trains go to Ditmars Blvd. To reduce congestion on the local track, trains will make express stops only. If 57th St. becomes congested, we can terminate some trains on the middle track at Astoria Blvd. Edited September 9, 2012 by Donald 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2424 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) NEXT: Manhattan bound express track at 65 St is impassible. Rules: don't overload the QBL local tracks, and Manhattan below 42 St must be served with the same number of TPH as usual. Manhattan-bound trains run express via the local track between Roosevelt Av and Queens Plaza/21 St. If necessary, selected northbound trains terminate at Queens Plaza. This will work because trains will not stop in the affected segment. Edited September 9, 2012 by NX Express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted September 9, 2012 Share #2425 Posted September 9, 2012 Your still overloading the local track by running 4 train lines on it. The only solution is to reduce service on Queens Blvd. by one line. ok, here is my scenario: The express AND local tracks along Central Park West from 59th St. to 125 St. are impassable due to a loss of power. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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