BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 27, 2014 Share #776 Posted July 27, 2014 The 7th ave line is a LTD. That's irrelevant to this (this is Amsterdam/ Columbus were talking about). If this was on the M104, yeah, you would have somewhat of a point. The point is to somewhat decrease time to the subway along Amsterdam/Columbus. You have the M101 running below the anyways. This doesn't "mock" the subway until about 116 street. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted July 28, 2014 Share #777 Posted July 28, 2014 That's irrelevant to this (this is Amsterdam/ Columbus were talking about). If this was on the M104, yeah, you would have somewhat of a point. The point is to somewhat decrease time to the subway along Amsterdam/Columbus. You have the M101 running below the anyways. This doesn't "mock" the subway until about 116 street. Still a way to kill redundancy good anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted July 29, 2014 Share #778 Posted July 29, 2014 I have a proposal. The M7 used to be a limited- bus stop service (although why it was stopped, I'm not sure) Why not have every bus run LIMITED north of 72 Street in the AM and PM rush hours. It would stop at : 72 Street 79 Street 86 Street 96 Street 106 Street (Corresponding Avenues) 110 Street/ Manhattan Avenue 116/ Federick Douglas 7 Avenue Lenox Avenue/116 st 125 Street 135 Street 147 Street I guess it could work. Some members proposed that the M104 get LTD service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted July 29, 2014 Share #779 Posted July 29, 2014 I guess it could work. Some members proposed that the M104 get LTD service. Wut M104 ltd wow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 29, 2014 Share #780 Posted July 29, 2014 I guess it could work. Some members proposed that the M104 get LTD service. I don't know about that one... The problem with the M104 is that the line bunches so much that I don't see how anyone could benefit from the limited stop service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted July 29, 2014 Share #781 Posted July 29, 2014 I don't know about that one... The problem with the M104 is that the line bunches so much that I don't see how anyone could benefit from the limited stop service. I thought the bunching would stop when it was cut back to Port Authority... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 29, 2014 Share #782 Posted July 29, 2014 I thought the bunching would stop when it was cut back to Port Authority... Heh, please.... You can see 4 - 5 M104s parading past Columbus Circle in a 10 minute span. They are scheduled to come frequent but not that frequent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted July 29, 2014 Share #783 Posted July 29, 2014 Heh, please.... You can see 4 - 5 M104s parading past Columbus Circle in a 10 minute span. They are scheduled to come frequent but not that frequent. I gotta see this on bus time... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 29, 2014 Share #784 Posted July 29, 2014 I gotta see this on bus time... Usually on weekends... Can't vouch for the scene during the week... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armandito Posted August 11, 2014 Share #785 Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) M28: Local crosstown service between Chelsea Piers and the 34 St Ferry Landing Eastbound: via 11 Av, 28 St, 30 St, and 1 Av Westbound: via 34 St, 2 Av, 29 St, and 11 Av Bus will run daily from 6AM to midnight, every 30 minutes. Edited August 11, 2014 by lara8710 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted August 11, 2014 Share #786 Posted August 11, 2014 M28: Local crosstown service between Chelsea Piers and the 34 St Ferry Landing Eastbound: via 11 Av, 28 St, 30 St, and 1 Av Westbound: via 34 St, 2 Av, 29 St, and 11 Av Bus will run daily from 6AM to midnight, every 30 minutes. This is a far cry of having it operate 24/7... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 11, 2014 Share #787 Posted August 11, 2014 M28: Local crosstown service between Chelsea Piers and the 34 St Ferry Landing Eastbound: via 11 Av, 28 St, 30 St, and 1 Av Westbound: via 34 St, 2 Av, 29 St, and 11 Av Bus will run daily from 6AM to midnight, every 30 minutes. And who is this supposed to be serving? The M34 doesn't even do that well to begin with. After rush hour, those buses don't carry well at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted August 11, 2014 Share #788 Posted August 11, 2014 And who is this supposed to be serving? The M34 doesn't even do that well to begin with. After rush hour, those buses don't carry well at all.The stations on 28...but I don't know the purpose of this route either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 11, 2014 Share #789 Posted August 11, 2014 The stations on 28...but I don't know the purpose of this route either Pfff... Please... Walk 5 blocks south.... 23rd street... 5 blocks north, 34th street.... That bus would do worse than the M50 does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted August 11, 2014 Share #790 Posted August 11, 2014 Pfff... Please... Walk 5 blocks south.... 23rd street... 5 blocks north, 34th street.... That bus would do worse than the M50 does.Laughs at this...worse than the M50 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 11, 2014 Share #791 Posted August 11, 2014 Laughs at this...worse than the M50 The M50 gets decent ridership during the week, but weekends is another story, hence the 30 minute headways. There's enough ridership to keep weekend service, but anything more than 30 minutes would be very generous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted August 11, 2014 Share #792 Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) The M50 gets decent ridership during the week, but weekends is another story, hence the 30 minute headways. There's enough ridership to keep weekend service, but anything more than 30 minutes would be very generous. It only got Weekend service because of Upper East Side folk that claim they use it.... The same folks that said they use(d) the M30.... Edited August 11, 2014 by Cait Sith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted August 11, 2014 Share #793 Posted August 11, 2014 It only got Weekend service because of Upper East Side folk that claim they use it.... The same folks that said they use(d) the M30.... Add to that, wasn't it a compromise after it was cut back from the UN? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 11, 2014 Share #794 Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) It only got Weekend service because of Upper East Side folk that claim they use it.... The same folks that said they use(d) the M30.... Well I certainly think it should run on weekends, as without it there would be no crosstown service after 42nd until 57th street. I do use it and it is a great alternative to the other crosstown buses, as it's less busy. There are also a lot of businesses nearby or on 49th or 50th, so it is helpful for those people. The blocks esp. on the West Side can be long on hot or cold days, so when I see one I'll grab it, as it shortens my walk. Sometimes I go as far east as 1st Avenue, and as far west as 11th Avenue. There are a lot of bars and restaurants along the route so it's great for that reason alone, at least for me anyway. lol The Upper East Side doesn't have as much pull as you may think. I wrote to the representative where the M104 used to terminate and that person unfortunately could not get anywhere, though they had received numerous requests and signatures to have the M104 restored back to the U.N. I was told via phone that the was very resistant to it (at least at that time anyway) and so I said fine, but I may try again in the future and suggested a couple of strategies that they should consider which they basically shot down. It really needs to go back to the U.N. full time. Add to that, wasn't it a compromise after it was cut back from the UN? Yes, that's correct. Supposedly the cut back allowed the savings to be used to restore weekend service. Edited August 11, 2014 by Via Garibaldi 8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted August 12, 2014 Share #795 Posted August 12, 2014 Well I certainly think it should run on weekends, as without it there would be no crosstown service after 42nd until 57th street. I do use it and it is a great alternative to the other crosstown buses, as it's less busy. There are also a lot of businesses nearby or on 49th or 50th, so it is helpful for those people. The blocks esp. on the West Side can be long on hot or cold days, so when I see one I'll grab it, as it shortens my walk. Sometimes I go as far east as 1st Avenue, and as far west as 11th Avenue. There are a lot of bars and restaurants along the route so it's great for that reason alone, at least for me anyway. lol The Upper East Side doesn't have as much pull as you may think. I wrote to the representative where the M104 used to terminate and that person unfortunately could not get anywhere, though they had received numerous requests and signatures to have the M104 restored back to the U.N. I was told via phone that the was very resistant to it (at least at that time anyway) and so I said fine, but I may try again in the future and suggested a couple of strategies that they should consider which they basically shot down. It really needs to go back to the U.N. full time. Yes, that's correct. Supposedly the cut back allowed the savings to be used to restore weekend service. Agreed on M50 lol at Cait's comment and M104 UN nonsense at least until a bus lane is added for 42nd to make sure UN doesn't kill reliability. Why can't you simply advocate for better M42 service? It will solve the problem rather than the M104 band-aid solution that ends up making waits on Broadway longer why can't you just let a Manhattan bus be reliable for once? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted August 12, 2014 Share #796 Posted August 12, 2014 And who is this supposed to be serving? The M34 doesn't even do that well to begin with. After rush hour, those buses don't carry well at all. Hmm blame the stop locations for that mess not helping to have several key connections skipped 8th ave and other stops that have been suspended and it's still unreliable on top of the inconvenient stops. M34a ain't helping. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted August 12, 2014 Share #797 Posted August 12, 2014 M28: Local crosstown service between Chelsea Piers and the 34 St Ferry Landing Eastbound: via 11 Av, 28 St, 30 St, and 1 Av Westbound: via 34 St, 2 Av, 29 St, and 11 Av Bus will run daily from 6AM to midnight, every 30 minutes. Is there really a need for a 28th/29th Street Crosstown? It might be (barely) more useful to just extend the M34 to Chelsea Piers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted August 12, 2014 Share #798 Posted August 12, 2014 Plus there's nothing along those streets anyway... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 12, 2014 Share #799 Posted August 12, 2014 Agreed on M50 lol at Cait's comment and M104 UN nonsense at least until a bus lane is added for 42nd to make sure UN doesn't kill reliability. Why can't you simply advocate for better M42 service? It will solve the problem rather than the M104 band-aid solution that ends up making waits on Broadway longer why can't you just let a Manhattan bus be reliable for once? It's not just about reliable M42 service. It's about having to make an unnecessary transfer at 42nd, and some folks would have to pay an additional fare. There are a lot of people that come from the Upper West Side such as myself who need East Side access and the M104 provides that seamlessly and quickly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted August 12, 2014 Share #800 Posted August 12, 2014 It's not just about reliable M42 service. It's about having to make an unnecessary transfer at 42nd, and some folks would have to pay an additional fare. There are a lot of people that come from the Upper West Side such as myself who need East Side access and the M104 provides that seamlessly and quickly. Not only that, but I'd be willing to think that some people favored the 104 over the 42 (within 42 street itself). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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