Threxx Posted April 21, 2012 Share #1 Posted April 21, 2012 We have one for all five boros, now for Nassau. Feel free to post your ideas here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted April 21, 2012 Share #2 Posted April 21, 2012 The N8 should be extended to the Hempstead Terminal. It will make right onto the Hempstead Turnpike, left on Franklin Street, a right on Columbia Street, and enter the terminal. The N8 to Hempstead will use one of the N6's extra bays. Either that, or go straight to Roosevelt Field via Clinton and Stewart, just like the N35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted April 22, 2012 Share #3 Posted April 22, 2012 N1: Retain N2: Return to pre-April routing N3: New Route, from Jamaica-Green Acres(Rush hours) Or To Hempstead Turnpike (Off-Peak Weekdays) N4: Reduced to 30 minutes rush hours, terminates at RC rush hours every other bus from 6-9 AM N4L: Every 30 minutes, Local stops to RC, then Limited Stops to Jamaica N4X: Runs every 30 minutes, local stops until, RC, then Express to Jamaica N6/6X: Unchanged N8: Current Routing until Green Acres, then go back via Hook Creek/Dutch Broadway/Mecheam/Covert Acenues, then fom Covert and Hempstead, to HTC via N6 route N14: Unchanged N15: Unchanged N16: Unchanged N16X: Unchanged N17: Make it an Official Limited-Stop Service N19: 30 minutes between Freeport and Amityville, 60 minutes Amityville-Babylon. Buses Rerouted to Serve Amityville R.R Starion N20: Four Trips in each directions during rush hours extended to Roslyn R.R Starion, then turn into N27 bus to Glen Cove N20L: All trips start at Hicksville N20X: New Route: Express Roslyn to Flushing N21: Eliminated N22/A/L/X: Retained N23: Rush Hour Service terminates at RF N24: Retain N25: Retain N26: Retain N27: Four trips extended to Flushing, being named n20 past the R.R Station N31/32: Retain 30 minute headways N33: Retain N35: Retain N40/41: Retain N43: Retain N45: Eliminated N46/: Rerouted :Front Street > Hempstead Turnpike > Newbridge Road > Certain Streets > Merrick Avenue> Regular Route rush hours only. Other Times current routing N47: Eliminated N48: Retain Saturday Service, Jerucho Quad Service discontinued, from Hicksville n81 route to Sunrise Mall N49:Extended to WWM, Service to Broadeay Mall Discontinued N50: Extended to Jericho Quad Middays N51: Rerouted along Merrick to Serve N53 loop routing to make people happy N54/55: Retain only to Sunrise Mall, see n19 for Amityville N57/58: Retain N67: New Route: Freeport to Plainview, run along N43 route from Freeport to Hempstead Turnpike, then unto Hempstead Turnpike, then Newbridge Road, then n78 route to Hicksville N70/71/72: Retain N73: Retain N74: Eliminated N78:Eliminated, see n67 N79: Eliminated,See n49 N80: Retain N81 : See n48 N88: Add extra Service to 15 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted April 22, 2012 Share #4 Posted April 22, 2012 N23: Extend to Roosevelt Field via Old Country Road, and Rush Hour service to Hempstead via Frankin Ave from Mineola. N24: Full Time Service to East Meadow, Weekday Service will enter NCC and stop at Student Union, Bookstore, and Bradley Hall. Eliminate trips to Hicksville N27: Extend to Roosevelt Field with Part Time service to Hempstead N33: extend to Rockaway Park N78/N79: Restore Service along Old Country Road to Mineola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted April 22, 2012 Share #5 Posted April 22, 2012 N23: Extend to Roosevelt Field via Old Country Road, and Rush Hour service to Hempstead via Frankin Ave from Mineola. Old Country Has the 22/24 already. Buses should continue to use n27 routing N24: Full Time Service to East Meadow, Weekday Service will enter NCC and stop at Student Union, Bookstore, and Bradley Hall. Eliminate trips to Hicksville Nope. Not gunna work. The n24 East Meadow trips were made to avoid NCC. The East Meadow Trips should run from RF to Merrick and Hempstead Turnpike, being renamed to n51. If you suggest sending the 78/79 to Mineola, many people will transfer at RF and everyone getting off at Hicksville with other people going to Suffolk or along MH Road, not gunna work either. N27: Extend to Roosevelt Field with Part Time service to Hempstead True. N27 riders need some service east of LIRR Oyster Bay Branch off-peak as well N33: extend to Rockaway Park This actually defeats the purpose of being a NICE route. Service is fine to FR. If anything eliminate N69 and replace it with n33 N78/N79: Restore Service along Old Country Road to Mineola See n24 above. Replies below proposal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marctalky1 Posted April 22, 2012 Share #6 Posted April 22, 2012 N1: Retain N2: Return to pre-April routing N3: New Route, from Jamaica-Green Acres(Rush hours) Or To Hempstead Turnpike (Off-Peak Weekdays) N4: Reduced to 30 minutes rush hours, terminates at RC rush hours every other bus from 6-9 AM N4L: Every 30 minutes, Local stops to RC, then Limited Stops to Jamaica N4X: Runs every 30 minutes, local stops until, RC, then Express to Jamaica N6/6X: Unchanged N8: Current Routing until Green Acres, then go back via Hook Creek/Dutch Broadway/Mecheam/Covert Acenues, then fom Covert and Hempstead, to HTC via N6 route N14: Unchanged N15: Unchanged N16: Unchanged N16X: Unchanged N17: Make it an Official Limited-Stop Service N19: 30 minutes between Freeport and Amityville, 60 minutes Amityville-Babylon. Buses Rerouted to Serve Amityville R.R Starion N20: Four Trips in each directions during rush hours extended to Roslyn R.R Starion, then turn into N27 bus to Glen Cove N20L: All trips start at Hicksville N20X: New Route: Express Roslyn to Flushing N21: Eliminated N22/A/L/X: Retained N23: Rush Hour Service terminates at RF N24: Retain N25: Retain N26: Retain N27: Four trips extended to Flushing, being named n20 past the R.R Station N31/32: Retain 30 minute headways N33: Retain N35: Retain N40/41: Retain N43: Retain N45: Eliminated N46/: Rerouted :Front Street > Hempstead Turnpike > Newbridge Road > Certain Streets > Merrick Avenue> Regular Route rush hours only. Other Times current routing N47: Eliminated N48: Retain Saturday Service, Jerucho Quad Service discontinued, from Hicksville n81 route to Sunrise Mall N49:Extended to WWM, Service to Broadeay Mall Discontinued N50: Extended to Jericho Quad Middays N51: Rerouted along Merrick to Serve N53 loop routing to make people happy N54/55: Retain only to Sunrise Mall, see n19 for Amityville N57/58: Retain N67: New Route: Freeport to Plainview, run along N43 route from Freeport to Hempstead Turnpike, then unto Hempstead Turnpike, then Newbridge Road, then n78 route to Hicksville N70/71/72: Retain N73: Retain N74: Eliminated N78:Eliminated, see n67 N79: Eliminated,See n49 N80: Retain N81 : See n48 N88: Add extra Service to 15 minutes You need service north of Broadway mall on the N48 many workers go to Jericho Quad. The first one is packed with only a few people getting off in hicksville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted April 22, 2012 Share #7 Posted April 22, 2012 Replies below proposal Isn't the N69 owned by the City of Long Beach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted April 22, 2012 Share #8 Posted April 22, 2012 You need service north of Broadway mall on the N48 many workers go to Jericho Quad. The first one is packed with only a few people getting off in hicksville. N48: Service goes to Sunrise Mall, Alternating to Jericho Quad during rush-hours N49; Alternative Buses serve Jerucho Quad and WWM middays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted April 22, 2012 Share #9 Posted April 22, 2012 Isn't the N69 owned by the City of Long Beach? Yes. However I dunno if LB riders will continue with packed n69. Also LB can number its buses as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted April 22, 2012 Share #10 Posted April 22, 2012 N1: Extend to Jamaica 165th Terminal all times N2: Runs every 30mins to Jamaica LIRR on weekdays, 165th Terminal on weekends N33: Service Extended to Jones Beach in the Summer N36: Extend to Far Rockaway Mott Avenue Station via N32 routing N78/79: Service to Roosevelt Field via Old Country Road on weekdays, Hicksville on weekends and part time for the 78 N91: JFK Airport-Hempstead Terminal via Farmers Blvd, Merrick Blvd, Hempstead Avenue, and Franklin Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted April 22, 2012 Share #11 Posted April 22, 2012 N48: Service goes to Sunrise Mall, Alternating to Jericho Quad during rush-hours N49; Alternative Buses serve Jerucho Quad and WWM middays What route would it take to reach Sunrise? In any case, here's what I'd do: N2/N8: Extended via Stewart Avenue/Cherry Valley Road/11th Street/Franklin Avenue to Mineola. N5: New route from Malverne to LIJ via Hempstead Avenue-Nassau Blvd-Marcus Avenue. N6: Stops added at Springfield Blvd, Elmont Road, and Franklin Avenue. N14: Extended across Demott Avenue/Centennial Avenue to Babylon Turnpike to fill in an east-west service gap. N17: More stops added along North Village Avenue. N21: Extended to Morgan Memorial Park via Landing Road. N22X: Stop added at New Hyde Park Road N27: Off-peak service combined with N20 short-turns (if they don't already end at Roslyn, then they should be extended there and combined with the N27). It would give N20 riders access to the Roslyn LIRR station and also help former N21 riders. Extended to Locust Valley LIRR station via Forest Avenue. I'd like to find some way of providing service to the Elm Avenue area in Glen Cove. Maybe the best way would be to have a route from Morgan Memorial Park to Elm Avenue/Viola Drive, but the problem becomes the turnaround at the eastern end. Eh, there are probably a bunch of NIMBYs there anyway. N46: QJT actually had a good idea in his plan to reroute it to the RFM. The N47/48/49 would serve Hempstead riders. N81: Extended to Oyster Bay via South Oyster Bay Road/Jackson Avenue, and Split Road Road, Oyster Bay RoadPine Hollow Road, South Street, and Audrey Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted April 22, 2012 Share #12 Posted April 22, 2012 N1. Extend to Queens Village LIRR on Weekends, timed to trains. and/or run N6's past Queens Village LIRR, for quick CityTicket access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted April 23, 2012 Share #13 Posted April 23, 2012 What route would it take to reach Sunrise? Alternative n48s would use The n81 route to get to Sunrise, discontinuing the n81 Alternative n49 would use the n79 route to get to WWM, discontinuing the n79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted April 23, 2012 Share #14 Posted April 23, 2012 Similar to what they did with the N24, what about extending some of the N4s to Sunrise Mall or even Babylon? That could bring some more ridership east of Freeport because the N19 would no longer be needed, eliminating the transfer. I would not extend all N4s, maybe one every half hour or even every hour. Depends how often the N19 runs now, but what do you think of that idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted April 23, 2012 Share #15 Posted April 23, 2012 Mistake: N80- Replaced by n48 n81 - Retained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted April 25, 2012 Share #16 Posted April 25, 2012 N21: Full time service between Great Neck LIRR and Glen Cove. Part Time Service to Flushing, Queens. N17: Combine with N14. N15: Limited Stop Serrvice between Long Beach and Roosevelt Field during Rush Hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted April 27, 2012 Share #17 Posted April 27, 2012 The run-thru: n1: No changes. n2: Return to Pre-April, 08th 2012 Routing. n4/L/X: -n4 runs local utilizing a 30 minute headway when n4L is running/utilizing a 15 minutes headway when n4L is not running. Saturdays, a regular 20 minute headway, Sunday, a regular 30 minute headway. -n4L runs limited utilzing a 30 minute headway from 6AM-10AM and 4PM-9PM. -n4X runs Express from 179th St. Subway Station to Hook Creek Blvd., then serving all Major Stops and Transfer Points in Nassau up to Freeport, utilizes a 30 minute headway from 6AM-9AM, and 4PM-8PM. *n4X runs peak hour only. **n4L/X runs weekdays only. ***Select n4/n4L trip ends at Rockville Centre. n6/L/X: -n6 runs local utilizing a 16 minute headway when n6L is running/utilizing a 8 minutes headway when n6L is not running. Saturdays, a regular 10 minute headway. Sunday, a regular 20 minute headway. -n6L runs limited utilzing a 16 minute headway from 6AM-10AM and 4PM-9PM. -n6X runs Express from 179th St. Subway Station to Elmont Road., then serving all Major Stops and Transfer Points in Nassau up to Hempstead, utilizes a 24 minute headway from 6AM-9AM, and 4PM-8PM. *n6X runs peak hour only. **n6L/X runs weekdays only. n8: Return to Pre-April, 08th 2012 Routing. n14: No Changes. n15: No Changes. n16: Return to Pre-April, 08th 2012 Routing. n17: Run Limited Service at All Times, do not use "L" in designation. n19: Every other bus terminates at Amityville instead of Babylon. n20/A/L/X & n21: -n20/20A/20L/21 runs local/limited utilizing a 10 minute headway / n20 runs to Roslyn / n20A runs to Great Neck - LIRR / n20L runs to Hicksville / n21 runs to Glen Cove. Saturdays, a regular 15 minute headway. Sunday, a regular 15 minute headway. Service pattern: n20A > n20 > n20L > n21 > n20A > n20 > n20L > n21. -n20X runs Express from Flushing - Main St. to Great Neck - LIRR, then serving all Major Stops and Transfer Points in Nassau up to Hicksville, utilizes a 30 minute headway from 6AM-9AM, and 4PM-8PM. However, after Glen Cove Road, it runs Express to Hicksville - Broadway Mall via Glen Cove Road. > LIE > Marginal Road. *n20X runs peak hour/weekdays only. n22/A/L/X: Some service enhancements to the n22L/X, no changes needed. n23: Return to Pre-April, 08th 2012 Routing. n24: Return to Pre-April, 08th 2012 Routing. n25: No changes. n26: No changes. n27: Return to Pre-April, 08th 2012 Routing. Select Trips inter-line with n21 and require no re-swipes. n31/32: No changes. n33: No changes. n35: No changes. n36: Reduced to Peak Hours Only. n40/41: No changes. n43: Return to Pre-April, 08th 2012 Routing. n45: Discontinue Service. n46: No Changes. n47: Reduced to Peak Hours Only. n48: No changes. n49: No changes. n50: Every other bus serves Jericho Quad during hours when the n48/49 also services Jericho Quad. n51: Reduced to Peak Hours Only. n54/55: No changes. n57/58: No changes. n62: No changes. n70/71/72: No changes. n73/n74: n73 will be discontinued due to low ridership, n74 will be peak only. n78/79: Return to Pre-April, 08th 2012 Routing. n80/81: n81 will be discontinued due to low ridership, n80 will be peak only. *All suggested modifications are using gathered data, personal observations and opinions from fellow commuters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted April 27, 2012 Share #18 Posted April 27, 2012 I've seen ridership on the N80/81 during the day, just like you can see in some photos on these forums. The 80 and the 81 could not be cut, or cancelled, but should run hourly together (meaning each every two hours) which cuts the service in half,and still leaves riders with a bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted April 27, 2012 Share #19 Posted April 27, 2012 I've seen ridership on the N80/81 during the day, just like you can see in some photos on these forums. The 80 and the 81 could not be cut, or cancelled, but should run hourly together (meaning each every two hours) which cuts the service in half,and still leaves riders with a bus. Okay, here is the dealio: n80/81: Merged to one route known as the n80 [Run via Stewart Ave. -> Hicksville Road -> Sunrise and end at Sunrise Mall] This new route will run hourly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted April 27, 2012 Share #20 Posted April 27, 2012 Should N27 bus stop at Northern Blvd & Glen Clove Rd bus stops to relocate for safer transfer since this is very busy and dangerous intersection. N27 Glen Clove bus stop should relocate to south side for easier transfer from N20 while N27 Roslyn/Hempstead should be on north side of Northern Blvd for easier transfer to N20 Flushing. Right now, former N21 riders from Flushing has to J-cross Northern Blvd with busy and speedy traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted April 27, 2012 Share #21 Posted April 27, 2012 Should N27 bus stop at Northern Blvd & Glen Clove Rd bus stops to relocate for safer transfer since this is very busy and dangerous intersection. N27 Glen Clove bus stop should relocate to south side for easier transfer from N20 while N27 Roslyn/Hempstead should be on north side of Northern Blvd for easier transfer to N20 Flushing. Right now, former N21 riders from Flushing has to J-cross Northern Blvd with busy and speedy traffic. No, the problem is there are cars turning on the curbs you mentioned, and a bus will cause congestion, I think it's good enough, but things have to be streamlined to allow better connections... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted April 27, 2012 Share #22 Posted April 27, 2012 N46/: Rerouted :Front Street > Hempstead Turnpike > Newbridge Road > Certain Streets > Merrick Avenue> Regular Route rush hours only. Other Times current routing Where would it go from Merrick Avenue? Merrick or Hempstead? Because if it is going back to Hempstead, may as well call it the N47. N51: Rerouted along Merrick to Serve N53 loop routing to make people happy Along which streets? The roads in Merrick are too narrow for regular buses, so that's why they used minibuses for n53. The only real roads you could route it along would be Meadowbrook Road, which is only the western half, and alot of people get on/off on Merrick Avenue. It makes more sense to just revive the n53. Isn't the N69 owned by the City of Long Beach? No, NICE just lets it operate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted April 27, 2012 Share #23 Posted April 27, 2012 My opinions n2/8: >Extend to Mineola, Weekdays only via Covert/ Stewart Avs and Nassau Blvd. The n2 runs via Jericho Tpke, and the n8 runs via Merrilon Avenue and Old County Road. >They could alternatively be run to HTC via the n6 Implement a n4x Create a n53 Merrick Shuttle >Runs in an AM/PM loop via Meadowbrook Road, Old Mill Road, Shaw Drive, and Park Avenue. n67 >Runs from Rockville Centre LIRR to Hicksville LIRR, via Lakeview/Seaman Avs, and then the pre-2010 n67 route. n76 Hicksville - Babylon >Runs from Hicksville LIRR to Grohmans Lane via the n79, then goes to Planview Road via Haypath Road. Runs via the (135) to Exit 8, Going to Bethpage Parkway to Central Av/Merrits Road to Fulton St, right turn on CR-47 (Main St) to Bethpage Rd/35 St. Hammington St to Wellwood Av, to E John St. Turns right on Arnold Ave, then right on (109), finally making a left on Trolley Path Rd to Babylon LIRR n78 Extend to Famingdale via the n95 n79 Re route every other rush hour bus via Crossways Industrial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share #24 Posted April 27, 2012 My only idea is the N27/L & N28/X Jamaica-Freeport via Nassau Bl & Ocean Avenue. (N27) Great Neck-Freeport via Nassau Bl & Ocean Avenue. (N28) Any suggestions or critiques? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted April 27, 2012 Share #25 Posted April 27, 2012 Should N27 bus stop at Northern Blvd & Glen Clove Rd bus stops to relocate for safer transfer since this is very busy and dangerous intersection. N27 Glen Clove bus stop should relocate to south side for easier transfer from N20 while N27 Roslyn/Hempstead should be on north side of Northern Blvd for easier transfer to N20 Flushing. Right now, former N21 riders from Flushing has to J-cross Northern Blvd with busy and speedy traffic. There is no crosswalk signal crossing Glen Cove Rd to get to the bus stop. It is a little dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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