Armani Posted January 13, 2015 Share #3551 Posted January 13, 2015 What do you mean by "run two routes" ? What i meant was by running the regular route from Spring Creek to Utica Avenue and also from Spring Creek to Eastern Parkway/Flatbush Avenue right near Grand Army Plaza 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted January 13, 2015 Share #3552 Posted January 13, 2015 What i meant was by running the regular route from Spring Creek to Utica Avenue and also from Spring Creek to Eastern Parkway/Flatbush Avenue right near Grand Army Plaza I'm going to take a guess at what you might mean, because all you did was repeat yourself... Lol... Are you saying that Utica av. would be a short turn on the B14, and the "full route" would run to Grand Army Plaza? (if so, you're bringing up an very old idea; the whole running of B14's along Eastern Pkwy. & what not) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani Posted January 13, 2015 Share #3553 Posted January 13, 2015 I'm going to take a guess at what you might mean, because all you did was repeat yourself... Lol... Are you saying that Utica av. would be a short turn on the B14, and the "full route" would run to Grand Army Plaza? (if so, you're bringing up an very old idea; the whole running of B14's along Eastern Pkwy. & what not) Never knew that. I messed up eh chief? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 25, 2015 Share #3554 Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) I've been thinking about some SBS routes that I saw being proposed on Wikipedia, and I wanted to see if the ideas that came from them seem like a good idea: B35: Extend locals the full route at all times and extend limited trips via the B15 to JFK. Under this proposal, the B15 to JFK would be discontinued and maybe return to the Brooklyn General Mall Facility. Late nights, the B35 operates the FULL route. New LTD stops are as following: 1 Avenue 3 Avenue 5 Avenue 8 Avenue 13 Avenue Church Avenue Then all normal LTD stops until... Rockaway Avenue Van Sinderen Avenue Pennsylvania Avenue Livonia Avenue Fountain Avenue Euclid Avenue Eldert Lane Then all B15 stops to JFK. B80: replaces the B82 LTD and also runs to JFK, making all B82 locals serve Coney Island. Has no late night service. It's western terminal will be the 59 Street station and will run as following: 4 Avenue (Eastbound) or 5 Avenue (Westbound), Bay Ridge Parkway, Kings Highway, Flatlands Avenue, Pennsylvania Avenue, Shore Parkway, Belt Parkway, then the B15 Route to JFK. Stops are as following: 60 Street and 4 Avenue Bay Ridge Avenue Bay Ridge Parkway and 5 Avenue Fort Hamilton Parkway 13 Avenue 18 Avenue Avenue P and Stillwell Avenue Then all B82 LTD stops until: Remsen Avenue Rockaway Parkway (follows B6 route until E 103 Street) E 103 Street (on Glenwood Road/Flatlands Avenue) Williams Avenue Vandalia Avenue Seaview Avenue Lefferts Blvd (Airtrain stop) and all B15 stops to JFK. Edit: Does anyone think that a stop at Cross Bay Blvd would be good for the B80? Edited January 25, 2015 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani Posted January 26, 2015 Share #3555 Posted January 26, 2015 I've been thinking about some SBS routes that I saw being proposed on Wikipedia, and I wanted to see if the ideas that came from them seem like a good idea: B35: Extend locals the full route at all times and extend limited trips via the B15 to JFK. Under this proposal, the B15 to JFK would be discontinued and maybe return to the Brooklyn General Mall Facility. Late nights, the B35 operates the FULL route. New LTD stops are as following: 1 Avenue 3 Avenue 5 Avenue 8 Avenue 13 Avenue Church Avenue Then all normal LTD stops until... Rockaway Avenue Van Sinderen Avenue Pennsylvania Avenue Livonia Avenue Fountain Avenue Euclid Avenue Eldert Lane Then all B15 stops to JFK. B80: replaces the B82 LTD and also runs to JFK, making all B82 locals serve Coney Island. Has no late night service. It's western terminal will be the 59 Street station and will run as following: 4 Avenue (Eastbound) or 5 Avenue (Westbound), Bay Ridge Parkway, Kings Highway, Flatlands Avenue, Pennsylvania Avenue, Shore Parkway, Belt Parkway, then the B15 Route to JFK. Stops are as following: 60 Street and 4 Avenue Bay Ridge Avenue Bay Ridge Parkway and 5 Avenue Fort Hamilton Parkway 13 Avenue 18 Avenue Avenue P and Stillwell Avenue Then all B82 LTD stops until: Remsen Avenue Rockaway Parkway (follows B6 route until E 103 Street) E 103 Street (on Glenwood Road/Flatlands Avenue) Williams Avenue Vandalia Avenue Seaview Avenue Lefferts Blvd (Airtrain stop) and all B15 stops to JFK. Edit: Does anyone think that a stop at Cross Bay Blvd would be good for the B80? This idea is bad all around....B35 Route is already too long because it runs from Brownsville to Sunset Park. Second the B80 idea won't work 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 26, 2015 Share #3556 Posted January 26, 2015 This idea is bad all around....B35 Route is already too long because it runs from Brownsville to Sunset Park. Second the B80 idea won't workI see. It almost seems like an Express bus route the way you put it. There is no simple way for this proposal is there? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 26, 2015 Share #3557 Posted January 26, 2015 I laughed at this idea...hard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani Posted January 26, 2015 Share #3558 Posted January 26, 2015 I see. It almost seems like an Express bus route the way you put it. There is no simple way for this proposal is there?Nope just leave the routes the way they are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3559 Posted January 27, 2015 Never knew that. I messed up eh chief? Not a matter of messing up, fam... It's something you simply didn't know.... I laughed at this idea...hard I don't know why so many think it's a plausible idea..... B35 to JFK.... If the B15 had the loads/ridership #'s the B35 has & was as slow as the B35 is (for the same exact reasons the B35 is), you'd have folks with a million & one ideas on how to split the B15 up..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3560 Posted January 27, 2015 Not a matter of messing up, fam... It's something you simply didn't know.... I don't know why so many think it's a plausible idea..... B35 to JFK.... If the B15 had the loads/ridership #'s the B35 has & was as slow as the B35 is (for the same exact reasons the B35 is), you'd have folks with a million & one ideas on how to split the B15 up..... I kinda wish the B15 was split because it actually is confusing at times when it short turns. I actually wish it still went to it's other (old) terminal instead of JFK because JFK riders are only south of Livonia Avenue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armandito Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3561 Posted January 27, 2015 I propose a new bus route between the Kings Highway station and Knapp Street/Emmons Avenue via Avenue R, Gerritsen Avenue, and Knapp Street. It would run daily from 6AM to midnight every 30 minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3562 Posted January 27, 2015 I propose a new bus route between the Kings Highway station and Knapp Street/Emmons Avenue via Avenue R, Gerritsen Avenue, and Knapp Street. It would run daily from 6AM to midnight every 30 minutes. Not familiar with Brooklyn like that, but it seems like a duplicate of the B31 and B44. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3563 Posted January 27, 2015 I kinda wish the B15 was split because it actually is confusing at times when it short turns. I actually wish it still went to it's other (old) terminal instead of JFK because JFK riders are only south of Livonia Avenue. Not true at all. You have scores of JFK Airport workers coming off the and from other lines themselves 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3564 Posted January 27, 2015 Not true at all. You have scores of JFK Airport workers coming off the and from other lines themselves I guess I misworded my sentence. My bad. I mean't to say east of E 98 Street. But do you know if JFK riders take the B15 to JFK north of the Sutter Avenue station? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3565 Posted January 27, 2015 I propose a new bus route between the Kings Highway station and Knapp Street/Emmons Avenue via Avenue R, Gerritsen Avenue, and Knapp Street. It would run daily from 6AM to midnight every 30 minutes. Completely unnecessary... That is car land over by Knapp... Those who need bus service along the Gerritsen Beach/Sheepshead Bay border can simply walk to the B31 or the B4. There's a street that links Gerritsen Beach with Sheepshead Bay that I used to use when coming from my old neighborhood in Sheepshead Bay to hang out with friends that lived in Gerritsen Beach. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3566 Posted January 27, 2015 Not true at all. You have scores of JFK Airport workers coming off the and from other lines themselves isn't to more reliable? What are these other lines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3567 Posted January 27, 2015 I kinda wish the B15 was split because it actually is confusing at times when it short turns. I actually wish it still went to it's other (old) terminal instead of JFK because JFK riders are only south of Livonia Avenue. Split where? Because what you're mentioning in that second statement would be a route truncation (to Brooklyn GMF), not a cut.... isn't to more reliable? Not if you're getting off somewhere away from the terminals within JFK.... Airport Workers are using buses more than Airport travelers, not the other way around (as some ppl. tend to believe)... The B15 couldn't be any more proof of that.... You are not seeing a bunch of people bombarding B15's at New Lots with luggages/rolling bags/whatever, seeking to catch a flight..... I guess I misworded my sentence. My bad. I mean't to say east of E 98 Street. But do you know if JFK riders take the B15 to JFK north of the Sutter Avenue station? That's even more wrong... Lol.... JFK seekers from off the B15 only emanate east of East 98th st??? You really aren't familiar with Brooklyn like that, and I'm here to help. The B15 starts (significantly) picking up those workers riding out to JFK at ENY av (B12).... Up from St. Johns av at the most. You'll still get some from around Fulton st, but those are the vast minority..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3568 Posted January 27, 2015 isn't to more reliable? What are these other lines. Who in their right mind would pay $5 for the AirTrain after paying $2.50 for the bus? Most (maybe a little over half) JFK Airport workers get off at the Lefferts Blvd station and catch the Airtrain from there...at least if they actually work in the terminals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3569 Posted January 27, 2015 Completely unnecessary... That is car land over by Knapp... Those who need bus service along the Gerritsen Beach/Sheepshead Bay border can simply walk to the B31 or the B4. There's a street that links Gerritsen Beach with Sheepshead Bay that I used to use when coming from my old neighborhood in Sheepshead Bay to hang out with friends that lived in Gerritsen Beach. On top of that, anyone who really needs the subway to Manhattan have the BM3/BM4 (alhough they don't have the best service span). I'd rather try to get more riders on those buses before actually starting a new bus route (However, I don't know if that could be possible, given how much the MTA shitted on the 3, the 4 we know is not getting any increase unless pro-express bus people suddenly occupied all of Midwood). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3570 Posted January 27, 2015 On top of that, anyone who really needs the subway to Manhattan have the BM3/BM4 (alhough they don't have the best service span). I'd rather try to get more riders on those buses before actually starting a new bus route (However, I don't know if that could be possible, given how much the MTA shitted on the 3, the 4 we know is not getting any increase unless pro-express bus people suddenly occupied all of Midwood). The express bus is a completely different issue though there is no question that the reduced spans haven't helped. The areas served by the B31 and B4 in that area are mainly homes with apartment buildings scattered about. Only those who absolutely need the bus will take it (be it local or express) and will just drive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
161 New York Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3571 Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Who in their right mind would pay $5 for the AirTrain after paying $2.50 for the bus? Most (maybe a little over half) JFK Airport workers get off at the Lefferts Blvd station and catch the Airtrain from there...at least if they actually work in the terminals AirTrain is free within the airport itself. The terminal at JFK is at T5 where you can catch the AirTrain. Also there are a number of bus stops within the airport for cargo, maintenance and administrative functions, I'm going to fan it one of these days: Edited January 27, 2015 by 161passenger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3572 Posted January 27, 2015 There's a reason I ignored Lara's idea.... I'm quite frankly tired of these Knapp st. routes. If it isn't someone suggesting running buses from Kings Plaza to Coney Island via Av U & Knapp, it's someone else suggesting running buses up Knapp to eventually get down towards the Rockaways, or someone else suggesting (yet another) feeder route running out of Kings Hwy on the Brighton on down to Plumb Beach/Sheepshead Bay/whatever.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3573 Posted January 27, 2015 That's even more wrong... Lol.... JFK seekers from off the B15 only emanate east of East 98th st??? You really aren't familiar with Brooklyn like that, and I'm here to help. The B15 starts (significantly) picking up those workers riding out to JFK at ENY av (B12).... Up from St. Johns av at the most. You'll still get some from around Fulton st, but those are the vast minority..... That makes sense. The B15 is one of the most confusing routes I ever looked at, but it's mostly because of how it is displayed on the subway map. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 27, 2015 Share #3574 Posted January 27, 2015 AirTrain is free within the airport itself. The terminal at JFK is at T5 where you can catch the AirTrain. Also there are a number of bus stops within the airport for cargo, maintenance and administrative functions, I'm going to fan it one of these days: I said that in response to QJT talking about taking the to the . Meant to change that last word from bus to train. Talking the means you would have to pay $5 to get on the AirTrain at Howard Beach. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted March 28, 2015 Share #3575 Posted March 28, 2015 Anybody knows how the construction at Willy B terminal is going? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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