Brighton Express Posted July 18, 2012 Share #226 Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) I hit 111 in Queens Boulevard with the old R32. Mad props to the DEVs of the new R46. I can really see the speed limiter working, especially on the same stretch of Queens Boulevard that I hit 100 on. Edited July 18, 2012 by trainguy97 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 18, 2012 Share #227 Posted July 18, 2012 Nope. Let me make this clear: 65 MPH is NOT possible anywhere in the system. Let alone the southbound CPW express, which really isn't THAT fast, even without timers. I'm guessing 40-45 max without the timers. 50-55 may be possible northbound with no timers, but not southbound. Maybe 60 MPH would be possible in the 60 St tube with no timers, but that area has a HUGE downhill, which the southbound CPW express lacks... He was talking about OpenBVE, calm the hell down! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share #228 Posted July 18, 2012 woah , no need to yell at me. Im just stating that the current openbve routes aren't the most accurate as they don't contain any timers on the A line. since 168 to 145 doesn't have timers in the route, is mostly Downhill and if you get a un-tuned train in the simulator then yea you can hit 60+ in that section . Im not talking about real life. Of course you can't hit 70 in the subway, maybe like you stated, in the 60 street tube you can hit a high speed. Again this is about the simulator not real life . Now back to the speed thread . B) He was talking about OpenBVE, calm the hell down! Sorry, you're right...I thought you were trying to say that those speeds were possible in real life (which it sounded like at first). I wasn't very upset, really, but in any case, I should have calmed down... Well, here's the speed in the 60 St tube, taken by FanRailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcPDbC_tO2Q&feature=relmfu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted July 18, 2012 Share #229 Posted July 18, 2012 45 MPH coming in the station. 65 MPH was the max for my stretch. I had the R44 BETA at 75 MPH coming into the Express on Carrol St. And I took the R42 and hit 80 MPH from 168 St to 145 St. TwoTimer have you ever had anything Express on the past Smith St on the Viaduct? This is not really to see the speed but I was just curious. The current alignment (unless they changed it again) puts everything on the express after Carroll. The timer that's on the express track is outside of 4Av station so the timer could be ignored. I had a R160 at 43 entering 4Av, but of course I ignored a GT30 in the process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 20, 2012 Author Share #230 Posted July 20, 2012 I had an unusual ride uptown on the CPW express today...R32 going down the hill at 103 St + breakdancing performance = quite a sight. Those 32s do make the run feel even faster than it is...Felt like at least 40 MPH at 81 St, even though I know that it was more like 35. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted July 23, 2012 Share #231 Posted July 23, 2012 Really? Drag OpenBVE into this? Ok, so here are my 2 cents on the matter: OpenBVE physics are only as accurate as you yourself make them. It is quite easy to edit the train physics if you know the coding correctly, and I have accordingly modified all my personal NYCT rolling stock so that propulsion cuts out at 50, and the accel curve falls below 0.5 - 1 mphps after 25-30 mph. That makes for much more realistic speed pickup in the higher ranges. On another note, how many times has my video been posted here again? 0_o lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted July 23, 2012 Share #232 Posted July 23, 2012 Also this may have been mentioned already but R32 A's can whip from 59th to 135 on 8th Avenue. The 60th St Tube is very fast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Line Posted July 23, 2012 Share #233 Posted July 23, 2012 Didn't know the 44s were capable of screaming like that. Thought it was only a 60-footer thing, especially prevalent in the 32s. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted July 23, 2012 Share #234 Posted July 23, 2012 Didn't know the 44s were capable of screaming like that. Thought it was only a 60-footer thing, especially prevalent in the 32s. Me too! Nice video. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Line Posted July 23, 2012 Share #235 Posted July 23, 2012 Me too! Nice video. lol yea. Not my video btw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted July 23, 2012 Share #236 Posted July 23, 2012 Didn't know the 44s were capable of screaming like that. Thought it was only a 60-footer thing, especially prevalent in the 32s. the 44s had similar motors to the 32s and 42s... damn I miss the 44's on the A, it's just not the same with a 46.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted July 23, 2012 Share #237 Posted July 23, 2012 Didn't know the 44s were capable of screaming like that. Thought it was only a 60-footer thing, especially prevalent in the 32s. I've never riden an SB into 42nd (only an ) but I always knew that was a fast entrance.. I love the sound of the train screaming 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Line Posted July 23, 2012 Share #238 Posted July 23, 2012 I've never riden an SB into 42nd (only an ) but I always knew that was a fast entrance.. I love the sound of the train screaming Same here. Once I remember waiting on the n/b platform to watch an fly in, but was only disappointed by a slow operator... Another thing I dislike too, boarding an with an operator you'd think is fast at any station north of Nostrand, only to be disappointed by him braking at the timers by Franklin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share #239 Posted July 24, 2012 The has some slow patches and fast patches, more extreme than the IRT I'm pretty sure. It's not just the timers; there are a lot of steep upgrade and downgrade sections of the route. The from 14 St to 59 St is noticeably slower because of the timers passing 23 St and 50 St, but I don't think it could exceed 35 MPH even without them, because of the upgrade. Passing 50 St was only 30 MPH before the timers were installed. CPW northbound is downgrade as has been discussed, and could be 50 MPH northbound without timers. 59 St - W 4 St is a pretty good stretch, and 45-50 MPH is possible coming southbound into 42 St. In Brooklyn, there are a lot of steep upgrade sections, and all of the steep downgrade sections are timed. That's my judgement. Yes, the timers into Broadway Junction and Utica Av are annoying, but aside from that, it's reasonably fast (30-35 MPH generally). If I'm correct, the IND was designed with steeper grades because the newer IND equipment in the 1930s could handle them better than IRT or BMT equipment. Thus, the IND could be built closer to the surface even if there are hills and such. Problem is, with the braking issues raised after the big crash, timers have been installed on many steep downgrades... Well, that's what I've got to say about the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted July 24, 2012 Share #240 Posted July 24, 2012 Had me an R42 on the fictional to Perth Amboy. Hit 65 from Atlantic Av to 36 St, and 45 from 34 St to 14 St. Yet to try the R46 out and see how that works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 24, 2012 Share #241 Posted July 24, 2012 Had me an R42 on the fictional to Perth Amboy. Hit 65 from Atlantic Av to 36 St, and 45 from 34 St to 14 St. Yet to try the R46 out and see how that works. The R46 is uber slow compared to this, only hitting 50... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share #242 Posted July 24, 2012 Had me an R42 on the fictional to Perth Amboy. Hit 65 from Atlantic Av to 36 St, and 45 from 34 St to 14 St. Yet to try the R46 out and see how that works. Gee, southbound? That's crazy...That's only 43 MPH in real life. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 24, 2012 Share #243 Posted July 24, 2012 Gee, southbound? That's crazy...That's only 43 MPH in real life. That's not a real track, it's an elevated with no stops b/w Atlantic Avenue and 36th... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share #244 Posted July 24, 2012 Okay, let's get back to real trains (if people want to): 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted July 24, 2012 Share #245 Posted July 24, 2012 I mean its what some are down to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted July 24, 2012 Share #246 Posted July 24, 2012 Alright guys. Let's keep this thing strictly to the real subway system and not various train simulators. I think Fan Railer said it best. OpenBVE physics are only as accurate as you yourself make them. If you want to discuss how fast you got your openBVE train up to, make a thread in the Simulators sub-section of the Model Bus & Railroading section. Thanks for your compliance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted July 24, 2012 Share #247 Posted July 24, 2012 Fine then. I thought the thread said SPEED so I thought posting my Simulator results count. But alright, I don't want this locked. Back to the real world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted July 24, 2012 Share #248 Posted July 24, 2012 Why do you guys always assume I'm about an inch away from locking a particular thread simply because I made a post in it? I just don't think we should be comparing real-world physics with that of openBVE or other train sims. Especially since some of the routes and trains' physics don't even come close to realism. Then there's the option (at least in BVE) to shut off derailments, so you could theoretically take a train up to 100 MPH (maybe not the new 46 or 160) without any kind of repercussions besides a lot of screeching. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted July 24, 2012 Share #249 Posted July 24, 2012 Aight boss I feel you. I get the point. Back to real world SPEED. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted July 25, 2012 Share #250 Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Boss?, he's a mod! Edited July 25, 2012 by jimmy7train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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