Majestic412 Posted July 16, 2012 Share #1 Posted July 16, 2012 http://forums.philad...opic/7341516/2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikan Wilhelm Posted July 16, 2012 Share #2 Posted July 16, 2012 Looks awesome to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkD329 Posted July 16, 2012 Share #3 Posted July 16, 2012 Don't put that tiny thing on the 501. That line gets DANGEROUSLY OVERCROWDED when it passes the Marina Casinos. Put the full size [what a f'n joke since the NABIs are undersized at 38.5 feet] bus on that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted July 16, 2012 Share #4 Posted July 16, 2012 Wow, not even a 3rd Gen one? And no rear door? I'm sorry, but that bus looks awful, and I'm sure it'll be awful to ride. I'm happy NJT is getting a low floor, but that thing is definitely not something I can approve of. And don't turn this into a good ol NABI argument either, I'm not taking part in it and I know people don't like the fact that I and others don't like NABI but let's just have our opinions and agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted July 16, 2012 Share #5 Posted July 16, 2012 Anyway, on that forum they said they're going to Morris and Egg Harbor? What about Veolia, A&C, and the other operators that use "baby" RTSes? Will those stick around for a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs NJT459 Posted July 17, 2012 Share #6 Posted July 17, 2012 here's the images of the interior from transitchuckg99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted July 17, 2012 Share #7 Posted July 17, 2012 here's the images of the interior from transitchuckg99 I have officially lost every last bit of respect I had for this bus. Transit (not soft) seating? WTF NJT? The NABI 416s are getting soft seating, so why change that? No rear door, no 3G design (which IMO isn't much better than the old one), and now these seats? Damn this is a BAD bus, and I thought the 416s were suckish. Hopefully this isn't an order to completely wipe out the baby RTSes and the next order goes to Nova, New Flyer, or MTS, or at least they go with 3Gs with rear doors and soft seats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikan Wilhelm Posted July 17, 2012 Share #8 Posted July 17, 2012 I have officially lost every last bit of respect I had for this bus. Transit (not soft) seating? WTF NJT? The NABI 416s are getting soft seating, so why change that? No rear door, no 3G design (which IMO isn't much better than the old one), and now these seats? Damn this is a BAD bus, and I thought the 416s were suckish. Hopefully this isn't an order to completely wipe out the baby RTSes and the next order goes to Nova, New Flyer, or MTS, or at least they go with 3Gs with rear doors and soft seats! Those look like soft seats to me kinda like the ones you would find on the train but idk it looks more suited for morris only or just the lines in general that don't get many passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 17, 2012 Share #9 Posted July 17, 2012 I have officially lost every last bit of respect I had for this bus. Transit (not soft) seating? WTF NJT? The NABI 416s are getting soft seating, so why change that? No rear door, no 3G design (which IMO isn't much better than the old one), and now these seats? Damn this is a BAD bus, and I thought the 416s were suckish. Hopefully this isn't an order to completely wipe out the baby RTSes and the next order goes to Nova, New Flyer, or MTS, or at least they go with 3Gs with rear doors and soft seats! 1. Those are cushioned seats, not hard seats. 2. No rear door = more room for the interior which IMO is a really good move. After all, this bus is 31ft and a low floor.....low floor buses have terrible room by themselves..... 3. This order was placed during the time the 416s were currently being made, the 3G design was not even developed. Plus using the same front end = saves costs on maintenance & shares parts among the other NABIs... 4. You wont see an LFS or a New Flyer operating in NJT anytime soon! 5. Bad bus? You haven't rode the thing yet, sit down and wait till this thing hits service..... If you're going to criticize a bus, at least wait till it hits service. Premature criticizing = terrible critic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs NJT459 Posted July 17, 2012 Share #10 Posted July 17, 2012 I know I will be on it when I take the 505 from the bus terminal to Margate Just remember that low floor = wheelchair ramp When I talk to some Egg Harbor drivers on their thoughts, I'll pass the info along on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted July 17, 2012 Share #11 Posted July 17, 2012 Those look like soft seats to me kinda like the ones you would find on the train but idk it looks more suited for morris only or just the lines in general that don't get many passengers. They're like the seats on the SEPTA buses but with a bit more cushioning. Not something I think is gonna work here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiXxDiDdY Posted July 17, 2012 Share #12 Posted July 17, 2012 "Bus looks pretty cool, IMO. It appears to be very spacious for a 31 footer and I like how the bus looks exactly like its 38ft, 416 counterparts. Now we can start callin these "baby NABIs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 18, 2012 Share #13 Posted July 18, 2012 They're like the seats on the SEPTA buses but with a bit more cushioning. Not something I think is gonna work here. What makes you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted July 18, 2012 Share #14 Posted July 18, 2012 What makes you say that? All these "baby" buses have had soft seats for a while now, and this sure is a big change from those. I'm sure people aren't going to like the new seats, it isn't like NJT has used them before, these seats are going to be a big change from what people are used to sitting down on. The soft seats have worked out on NJT transit buses for a long time now, I don't understand why they decided to use these seats on the 31LFWs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 18, 2012 Share #15 Posted July 18, 2012 All these "baby" buses have had soft seats for a while now, and this sure is a big change from those. I'm sure people aren't going to like the new seats, it isn't like NJT has used them before, these seats are going to be a big change from what people are used to sitting down on. The soft seats have worked out on NJT transit buses for a long time now, I don't understand why they decided to use these seats on the 31LFWs. Just remember one thing, the bigger seats take up more room and this is a low floor bus, so using those bigger seats would be a bad idea. It only worked on the RTS because of course...they are high floor! Using these kind of seats bring on a lot more room. Compare the sizes between both kinds of seats and you'll understand what I mean. The seats are still soft and cushioned so I dont know what the big deal is. I'm pretty sure the folks who have to use these buses wont take it THAT seriously....you are over-exaggerating. Like I always said, quit jumping the gun and lets wait and see what happens because when the seat style changed on the NABI high floors, I havent heard about any complaints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted July 18, 2012 Share #16 Posted July 18, 2012 That's a tiny bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuBus Posted July 18, 2012 Share #17 Posted July 18, 2012 Looking at the pictures its small and outside its weird but i would not be surprised if the buses were ordered for Broadway and the remaining buses at AC. So how many will be ordered other than the 31 planned i mean they could order more and is there 31 foot suburban style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJokaPlaya Posted July 20, 2012 Share #18 Posted July 20, 2012 For a minute, I thought I was looking at the inside of a Gilligs bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted July 20, 2012 Share #19 Posted July 20, 2012 For a minute, I thought I was looking at the inside of a Gilligs bus. I can see why LOL! Not the nicest interior at all. Very chintzy-looking, especially the seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs NJT459 Posted July 20, 2012 Share #20 Posted July 20, 2012 i kinda thought so too like the PHL airport courtesy shuttles i would take from the Economy lot, those are Gillig LFW with big backdoors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted July 20, 2012 Share #21 Posted July 20, 2012 i kinda thought so too like the PHL airport courtesy shuttles i would take from the Economy lot, those are Gillig LFW with big backdoors They might be ElDorado National, I remember seeing those and I think they looked similar to the ones at FLL which are ElDorado. They make a lot of buses for airports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted July 21, 2012 Share #22 Posted July 21, 2012 They might be ElDorado National, I remember seeing those and I think they looked similar to the ones at FLL which are ElDorado. They make a lot of buses for airports. Gillig also makes alot of shuttles for airports and rental car companies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted July 21, 2012 Share #23 Posted July 21, 2012 They're like the seats on the SEPTA buses but with a bit more cushioning. Not something I think is gonna work here. These are the same seats that our 0059 demo had. Those were comfy as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted July 21, 2012 Share #24 Posted July 21, 2012 These are the same seats that our 0059 demo had. Those were comfy as hell. Not like the current (RTS/NABI 416) NJT seating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfs NJT459 Posted July 21, 2012 Share #25 Posted July 21, 2012 They might be ElDorado National, I remember seeing those and I think they looked similar to the ones at FLL which are ElDorado. They make a lot of buses for airports. Correct me if I'm wrong, The car rental shuttle buses at FLL have 2 doors on the right side and a rear door on the left side specially for the Rental Car Center I have been to Florida many times And there's alot of Gilligs at PHL Airport, some for Avis, some for Hertz, and some owned by PHL Airport for the Economy Lot and Employee Lot Shuttles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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