Orion6025 Posted October 27, 2018 Share #51 Posted October 27, 2018 11 hours ago, aemoreira81 said: The B30 had a weird service pattern with 1 service gap on weekdays and 2 service gaps on Saturdays. I'm pretty sure the b30 was a Pond route..... But i don't know for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastFlatbushLarry Posted October 28, 2018 Share #52 Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, Orion6025 said: I'm pretty sure the b30 was a Pond route..... But i don't Edited October 28, 2018 by EastFlatbushLarry disregard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted June 7, 2019 Share #53 Posted June 7, 2019 I was combing through some of the historical and present rosters for snapshots of size and make-up. Some of the numbers may be off, but not by much. I listed the source next to it. I also decided not to count historical, preserved, scrapped, or reserve buses. The TTMG and Google Sites are good proxies for the number of buses being used at a time. Obviously, not everything was exactly up to date in each snapshot, but no one is screwing that up intentionally, and you have to thank those guys for their hard work. The numbers go up and down for obvious reasons: - Some buses are out of service. The hybrids for example, fluctuate from snapshot to snapshot because of that (1677 is Gens 825+NG 852). - New buses come in and older buses are kept for a while, pushing the total nuber up for a while (ex: the Prevost entering in 2016, some MCI being kept then dumped). - The introduction of more of one category as opposed to another (more diesels coming in now than CNG). Observations: - The express fleet is usually in the 1010-1020 range (duh), with the bump from 2014-2016 being the introduction of the Prevost. - The 60 foot fleet has gone up by almost 300 since a low point in the 2014-2015 range, mostly by the introduction of the MTA Bus XD60 and the XN60. - The hybrids were very stable for years, but expect that number to go down for a couple of years as the new diesels retire the Gen-I hybrids. - There are less CNG buses (which is what happens when you don't replace older ones one for one, but with artics), and there will be as the focus has become on the hybrid and electric buses. Fleet Express Local 40 Foot 45 Foot 60 Foot Diesel Hybrid CNG Electric Date 5775 1015 4760 3972 1015 788 3321 1676 778 0 6/15/2013 TTMG 5727 1034 4693 3946 1034 747 3309 1671 747 0 9/21/2014 Google Sites 5822 1072 4750 3999 1072 751 3402 1673 747 0 6/10/2015 Google Sites 5919 1084 4835 4031 1084 804 3495 1677 747 0 4/30/2016 Google Sites 5738 1019 4719 3865 1019 854 3304 1675 759 0 4/16/2017 Google Sites 5892 1018 4874 3925 1018 949 3440 1676 766 10 7/6/2018 TTMG 5890 1014 4876 3856 1014 1020 3502 1652 736 10 5/31/2019 TTMG Just pointing out the obvious, but I just wanted to visualize how big the fleet was at a given time. Now my next step is to look at the pre-takeover rosters and compare them with the modern rosters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted February 2, 2020 Share #54 Posted February 2, 2020 A little update: I made another count for today (2/1/2020) just to see how it compares to last year. I used the Google Sites roster. All the buses counted here are ones that are listed on that roster at this exact time and date, so if they not on there, then I did not count them (the remaining XE60s not counted, for example). These are the numbers from 2010 to 2020: Fleet Express Local 40 Foot 45 Foot 60 Foot Diesel Hybrid CNG Electric Date 5827 975 4852 4206 975 646 3428 1681 718 0 5/23/2010 TTMG 5590 1015 4568 3921 1015 654 3285 1676 629 0 7/27/2011 TTMG 5697 1001 4696 4023 1001 673 3262 1677 758 0 5/2/2012 TTMG 5775 1015 4760 3972 1015 788 3321 1676 778 0 6/15/2013 TTMG 5727 1034 4693 3946 1034 747 3309 1671 747 0 9/21/2014 Google 5822 1072 4750 3999 1072 751 3402 1673 747 0 6/10/2015 Google 5919 1084 4835 4031 1084 804 3494 1677 747 0 4/30/2016 Google 5738 1019 4719 3865 1019 854 3304 1675 759 0 4/16/2017 Google 5892 1018 4874 3925 1018 949 3440 1676 766 10 7/6/2018 TTMG 5890 1014 4876 3856 1014 1020 3502 1652 736 10 5/31/2019 TTMG 5954 1016 4938 3786 1016 1152 3747 1456 736 15 2/1/2020 Google You can see how the number of articulated buses has almost doubled since the 2010 count (from 646 to 1152, by about 506, and that's still not counting a few buses still left to be delivered). The number of 40-footers has gone down from 4206 to 3786 (420). The number of diesels has gone up, with new diesels replacing old hybrids. The size of the fleet appears to be the largest in a decade, although I am just counting 2010 and onward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted May 27, 2020 Share #55 Posted May 27, 2020 I wanted to know the number of buses that were transferred from the private lines to MTA Bus. Using TTMG, the CPTDB wiki, and the Hope Tunnel rosters, there were 1273 buses that were inherited by the MTA. Not all buses were put in service. The New Look Fishbowls from NYBS were immediately retired and, as far as I can tell, so were the MCI Classics from Triboro Coach, with a few RTS, for a total of about 66 buses. So in actuality, some 1207 buses were put in service by the MTA (although the number may certainly be lower). The quantity of buses inherited by the MTA per company looks something like this: COMPANY QTY New York Bus Service 143 Liberty Lines Express 86 Jamaica Bus 103 Queens Surface Corporation 313 Green Bus Lines 245 Triboro Coach Corporation 247 Command Bus Company 136 TOTAL 1273 As of this May, the number of buses in MTA Bus depots looks like this: MTA DEPOT QTY Eastchester 133 Yonkers 84 Baisley Park 116 College Point 330 JFK+FR 243+45 --> 288 LaGuardia 254 Spring Creek 126 TOTAL 1331 There have been lines that have been swapped between depots (i.e. the Q38, QM10/11, Q64, etc). But those swaps have usually been done with an aim of keeping roughly the same number of buses at each depot as before the swap. It's interesting to note how......similar the base numbers are. The QSC, GBL, and JB routes have gotten more buses compared to back in the day, while the others have decreased by a little. The introduction of articulated buses has hidden a theoretical higher number of regular buses, but express service has been steadily cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlcohen Posted September 25, 2020 Share #56 Posted September 25, 2020 I don’t trust web/wiki sources that I find randomly. The link is: https://mtanyctransitfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Historical_MTA_Regional_Bus_rosters_(2005-2015)_(mtamaster_edition) But, is any of this info true: 2005-2006 - MTA bus is formed over the years, and as a result, merged 9 different private companies into one. These buses were gained from the companies and renumbered to reflect the change: 1995 Fixible Metro E 40102-4D: 1550-1599 for Queensboro (Q101, Q102, Q103, Q104, Q105, QM1, QM1A) 1600-1629 for Eastchester (Bx23, Bx70, Bx72, BxM6, BxM7, BxM7A, BxM7B, BxM9, BxM10: 1630-1649 for Williamsburg (B102, B110, BM10, BM11, BM12, BM15) Can anyone identify: 1995 Fixible Metro E 40102-4D buses - did they exist on an official MTAB roster? What private operators did they come from? Did they ever run for MTAB? Was there a Williamsburg depot, and where was it located? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted September 25, 2020 Share #57 Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) what is the bx70, bx72, b102, q105. Edited September 25, 2020 by limitednyc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted September 25, 2020 Share #58 Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, tlcohen said: I don’t trust web/wiki sources that I find randomly. The link is: https://mtanyctransitfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Historical_MTA_Regional_Bus_rosters_(2005-2015)_(mtamaster_edition) But, is any of this info true: 2005-2006 - MTA bus is formed over the years, and as a result, merged 9 different private companies into one. These buses were gained from the companies and renumbered to reflect the change: 1995 Fixible Metro E 40102-4D: 1550-1599 for Queensboro (Q101, Q102, Q103, Q104, Q105, QM1, QM1A) 1600-1629 for Eastchester (Bx23, Bx70, Bx72, BxM6, BxM7, BxM7A, BxM7B, BxM9, BxM10: 1630-1649 for Williamsburg (B102, B110, BM10, BM11, BM12, BM15) Can anyone identify: 1995 Fixible Metro E 40102-4D buses - did they exist on an official MTAB roster? What private operators did they come from? Did they ever run for MTAB? Was there a Williamsburg depot, and where was it located? 55 minutes ago, limitednyc said: what is the bx70, bx72, b102, q105. That’s a fan made site. It’s not an official roster whatsoever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastFlatbushLarry Posted September 26, 2020 Share #59 Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, tlcohen said: I don’t trust web/wiki sources that I find randomly. The link is: https://mtanyctransitfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Historical_MTA_Regional_Bus_rosters_(2005-2015)_(mtamaster_edition) But, is any of this info true: 2005-2006 - MTA bus is formed over the years, and as a result, merged 9 different private companies into one. These buses were gained from the companies and renumbered to reflect the change: 1995 Fixible Metro E 40102-4D: 1550-1599 for Queensboro (Q101, Q102, Q103, Q104, Q105, QM1, QM1A) 1600-1629 for Eastchester (Bx23, Bx70, Bx72, BxM6, BxM7, BxM7A, BxM7B, BxM9, BxM10: 1630-1649 for Williamsburg (B102, B110, BM10, BM11, BM12, BM15) Can anyone identify: 1995 Fixible Metro E 40102-4D buses - did they exist on an official MTAB roster? What private operators did they come from? Did they ever run for MTAB? Was there a Williamsburg depot, and where was it located? that is a fantasy roster. there never was a queensboro depot or Williamsburg yard. the roster described Williamsburg depot as someone's fantasy of the MTA taking over private transportation (the company that runs the jewish B110) i read that thing a few years ago and was thoroughly disgusted. i can't believe that page hasn't been flagged, taken down or reported by now Edited September 26, 2020 by EastFlatbushLarry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMTAEmprie Posted February 17, 2023 Share #60 Posted February 17, 2023 On 8/4/2016 at 12:17 AM, MysteriousBtrain said: Just a couple of interesting rosters over the years that I gathered from all over the web. Some were already seen, while others were a bit difficult to find. Thought some of you might enjoy these rosters, especially the newbies: 1995: http://web.archive.org/web/19980127010654/http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/Bus/busfacts.htm (gotta scroll down a bit, does not include a fleet Roster) 1999: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/20996-nyctmabstoa-bus-roster-april-1999/ 2000: http://www.subchat.com/buschat/readflat.asp?Id=203384&p=1#203396 2003: http://talk.nycsubway.org/perl/read?bustalk=86154 2004: http://talk.nycsubway.org/perl/read?bustalk=99868 2006: http://forum.bustalk.info/archive/New%20York%20City%20Bus%20Roster%20-%20December%202006_2.html 2007: http://forum.bustalk.info/viewtopic.php?t=48&sid=0735b6e0b2bbccdd483fe52b210e372b 2008: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/2815-the-official-mta-bus-roster/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/2747-mta-bus-roster/ (Top link is NYCT, Bottom is MTA BC) 2009: https://web.archive.org/web/20090306015300/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Bus_Depot_Roster_%28New_York_MTA%29 2010: https://web.archive.org/web/20100523152702/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_Depot_Roster (Note: before the budget cuts) 2011: https://web.archive.org/web/20110728134500/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_Depot_Roster 2012: https://web.archive.org/web/20120621062926/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_Depot_Roster 2013: https://web.archive.org/web/20130615011014/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_Depot_Roster 2014: https://web.archive.org/web/20140921032130/https://sites.google.com/site/mtanyctrosters/mtaregionalbusroster 2015: https://web.archive.org/web/20151023023732/https://sites.google.com/site/nycbuses/ And just for fun...... Just before May 2016: https://web.archive.org/web/20160501171927/https://sites.google.com/site/nycbuses/ Is there any bus rosters from 2001 or 2004? I been looking for those for years. What about old MTA Long Island bus rosters? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMTAEmprie Posted February 17, 2023 Share #61 Posted February 17, 2023 On 8/4/2016 at 12:17 AM, MysteriousBtrain said: Just a couple of interesting rosters over the years that I gathered from all over the web. Some were already seen, while others were a bit difficult to find. Thought some of you might enjoy these rosters, especially the newbies: 1995: http://web.archive.org/web/19980127010654/http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/Bus/busfacts.htm (gotta scroll down a bit, does not include a fleet Roster) 1999: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/20996-nyctmabstoa-bus-roster-april-1999/ 2000: http://www.subchat.com/buschat/readflat.asp?Id=203384&p=1#203396 2003: http://talk.nycsubway.org/perl/read?bustalk=86154 2004: http://talk.nycsubway.org/perl/read?bustalk=99868 2006: http://forum.bustalk.info/archive/New%20York%20City%20Bus%20Roster%20-%20December%202006_2.html 2007: http://forum.bustalk.info/viewtopic.php?t=48&sid=0735b6e0b2bbccdd483fe52b210e372b 2008: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/2815-the-official-mta-bus-roster/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/2747-mta-bus-roster/ (Top link is NYCT, Bottom is MTA BC) 2009: https://web.archive.org/web/20090306015300/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Bus_Depot_Roster_%28New_York_MTA%29 2010: https://web.archive.org/web/20100523152702/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_Depot_Roster (Note: before the budget cuts) 2011: https://web.archive.org/web/20110728134500/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_Depot_Roster 2012: https://web.archive.org/web/20120621062926/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_Depot_Roster 2013: https://web.archive.org/web/20130615011014/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_Depot_Roster 2014: https://web.archive.org/web/20140921032130/https://sites.google.com/site/mtanyctrosters/mtaregionalbusroster 2015: https://web.archive.org/web/20151023023732/https://sites.google.com/site/nycbuses/ And just for fun...... Just before May 2016: https://web.archive.org/web/20160501171927/https://sites.google.com/site/nycbuses/ Is there any bus rosters from 2001 or 2004? I been looking for those for years. What about old MTA Long Island bus rosters? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMTAEmprie Posted February 17, 2023 Share #62 Posted February 17, 2023 On 8/4/2016 at 12:17 AM, MysteriousBtrain said: Just a couple of interesting rosters over the years that I gathered from all over the web. Some were already seen, while others were a bit difficult to find. Thought some of you might enjoy these rosters, especially the newbies: 1995: http://web.archive.org/web/19980127010654/http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/Bus/busfacts.htm (gotta scroll down a bit, does not include a fleet Roster) 1999: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/20996-nyctmabstoa-bus-roster-april-1999/ 2000: http://www.subchat.com/buschat/readflat.asp?Id=203384&p=1#203396 2003: http://talk.nycsubway.org/perl/read?bustalk=86154 2004: http://talk.nycsubway.org/perl/read?bustalk=99868 2006: http://forum.bustalk.info/archive/New%20York%20City%20Bus%20Roster%20-%20December%202006_2.html 2007: http://forum.bustalk.info/viewtopic.php?t=48&sid=0735b6e0b2bbccdd483fe52b210e372b 2008: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/2815-the-official-mta-bus-roster/ http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/2747-mta-bus-roster/ (Top link is NYCT, Bottom is MTA BC) 2009: https://web.archive.org/web/20090306015300/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Bus_Depot_Roster_%28New_York_MTA%29 2010: https://web.archive.org/web/20100523152702/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_Depot_Roster (Note: before the budget cuts) 2011: https://web.archive.org/web/20110728134500/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_Depot_Roster 2012: https://web.archive.org/web/20120621062926/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_Depot_Roster 2013: https://web.archive.org/web/20130615011014/http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=MTA_Regional_Bus_Operations_Depot_Roster 2014: https://web.archive.org/web/20140921032130/https://sites.google.com/site/mtanyctrosters/mtaregionalbusroster 2015: https://web.archive.org/web/20151023023732/https://sites.google.com/site/nycbuses/ And just for fun...... Just before May 2016: https://web.archive.org/web/20160501171927/https://sites.google.com/site/nycbuses/ Is there any bus rosters from 2001 or 2004? I been looking for those for years. What about old MTA Long Island bus rosters? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNextGen2009 Posted January 4 Share #63 Posted January 4 I didn't know that the Diesel Orion V's used to run on Queens Village routes. I bet they looked pretty well on routes like the Q1 and the Q43. I wonder if there's some pics around with them running under QV. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted January 27 Share #64 Posted January 27 On 9/25/2020 at 11:00 AM, tlcohen said: I don’t trust web/wiki sources that I find randomly. The link is: https://mtanyctransitfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Historical_MTA_Regional_Bus_rosters_(2005-2015)_(mtamaster_edition) But, is any of this info true: 2005-2006 - MTA bus is formed over the years, and as a result, merged 9 different private companies into one. These buses were gained from the companies and renumbered to reflect the change: 1995 Fixible Metro E 40102-4D: 1550-1599 for Queensboro (Q101, Q102, Q103, Q104, Q105, QM1, QM1A) 1600-1629 for Eastchester (Bx23, Bx70, Bx72, BxM6, BxM7, BxM7A, BxM7B, BxM9, BxM10: 1630-1649 for Williamsburg (B102, B110, BM10, BM11, BM12, BM15) Can anyone identify: 1995 Fixible Metro E 40102-4D buses - did they exist on an official MTAB roster? What private operators did they come from? Did they ever run for MTAB? Was there a Williamsburg depot, and where was it located? In case you missed it, that’s is not a real roster. It’s someone’s made up roster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q65A Posted March 11 Share #65 Posted March 11 Try this historical NYCTA bus roster from AJ Kristopans: https://utahrails.net/ajkristopans/NYCTA.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q65A Posted March 11 Share #66 Posted March 11 Try this website for production data for GM buses (including orders for NYCTA and predecessors): https://www.omot.org/roster/index.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted March 12 Share #67 Posted March 12 17 hours ago, Q65A said: Try this historical NYCTA bus roster from AJ Kristopans: https://utahrails.net/ajkristopans/NYCTA.htm Thanks for that info 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The TransitMan Posted March 12 Share #68 Posted March 12 On 1/4/2024 at 3:27 PM, TheNextGen2009 said: I didn't know that the Diesel Orion V's used to run on Queens Village routes. I bet they looked pretty well on routes like the Q1 and the Q43. I wonder if there's some pics around with them running under QV. Yep! #505-534 and #611-630...50 buses came from Casey Stengel and Castleton. They were at Queens Village to make preparations for the upcoming Orion VII Hybrids. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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