Real Greenpickles987 Posted February 14, 2022 Share #1 Posted February 14, 2022 what if nyc subway never closed stations, not even one single station? What if all proportions were accepted? This map might look like this: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulturious Posted February 14, 2022 Share #2 Posted February 14, 2022 I'm pretty sure this could've gone in either: or: Although if I had to answer, I'd say it would be a mix of hell and... Well I have no idea what to say. While there are places that the subway system finally have access to, there's just way too much going on that even the slightest thing could set off a chain reaction (probably). You also got the issue of lines just being way too long that it might just end up being unreliable. I'd go further in-depth, but this is just way too much I'd probably lose all of my braincells making a pros and cons list. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted February 15, 2022 Share #3 Posted February 15, 2022 49 minutes ago, Vulturious said: I'm pretty sure this could've gone in either: Probably better there than the Random Thoughts thread. Take care to suit-up (HAZMAT level A) before going in. Folks be puking Skittles and rainbow noodles all over the place in there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted February 15, 2022 Share #4 Posted February 15, 2022 2 hours ago, CenSin said: Probably better there than the Random Thoughts thread. Take care to suit-up (HAZMAT level A) before going in. Folks be puking Skittles and rainbow noodles all over the place in there. More than in this map? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40MntVrn Posted February 15, 2022 Share #5 Posted February 15, 2022 Some of these routes would literally take hours to complete one run. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted February 18, 2022 Share #6 Posted February 18, 2022 You know... I think I kinda missed this sort of nonsense... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted February 18, 2022 Share #7 Posted February 18, 2022 For some reason I doubt the pre MTA LIRR would be OK with those subway extensions deep into their territory (long island) LIRR is much faster than the subway and still takes well over an hour to reach Babylon and some of those Ronkonkoma line stations. An NY subway service would take forever to reach Manhattan from Babylon. I did chuckle at the train being extended to Jones Beach, that was funny! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrome Posted February 18, 2022 Share #8 Posted February 18, 2022 Proposals. FYI, the word you're looking for is proposals, not proportions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted February 19, 2022 Share #9 Posted February 19, 2022 Something is inherently wrong when subway lines would be longer than current railroad lines.... When there would be NYC subway routes serving two different states (let alone suburbs within NYS), you know full well this isn't about no damn closed NYC subway stations... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 19, 2022 Share #10 Posted February 19, 2022 3 hours ago, B35 via Church said: Something is inherently wrong when subway lines would be longer than current railroad lines.... When there would be NYC subway routes serving two different states (let alone suburbs within NYS), you know full well this isn't about no damn closed NYC subway stations... A better question is who in the hell would be paying for something like this? It's called the NYC Subway System for a reason. As a resident and taxpayer of NYC, I have ZERO interest having my tax dollars go to Long Island or Westchester to improve their transit system. Let them pay for their own needs with their tax dollars. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OIG119 Posted February 19, 2022 Share #11 Posted February 19, 2022 This map doesn't even include all closed stations. Several entire closed lines are missing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted February 19, 2022 Share #12 Posted February 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: A better question is who in the hell would be paying for something like this? It's called the NYC Subway System for a reason. As a resident and taxpayer of NYC, I have ZERO interest having my tax dollars go to Long Island or Westchester to improve their transit system. Let them pay for their own needs with their tax dollars. Not to mention the fact that the railroads (bar ) use wider trains than the subway... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 19, 2022 Share #13 Posted February 19, 2022 38 minutes ago, Lex said: Not to mention the fact that the railroads (bar ) use wider trains than the subway... If anything, there should be more subways in the outer boroughs before talk of anything else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineerboy6561 Posted March 2, 2022 Share #14 Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) @Real Greenpickles987 On the one hand, it would be amazing to be able to go from Stamford to New Brunswick for $2.75; on the other hand having the subway system swallow up the inner three quarters of all three commuter rail networks would be a massive logistical disaster. You'd have huge rolling stock compatibility issues since commuter rail cars run at 80-125mph and are physically 18 inches wider and 10 feet longer than the R44s, and the existing track in Newark is light rail, so the rolling stock is comprised of LRVs (low-floor bendy vehicles with pretty low capacity). Some of these routes are likely ~80 miles in one direction; with subway max speeds and stop spacing you'd be looking at 20mph average speeds if that, so you'd be looking at transit times of at least four hours one-way end to end on the pink C for example, and the commute from New Brunswick to midtown Manhattan would go from 45-50 minutes to two and a half hours. You're better off having a really robust subway network serving NYC proper, a mirror subway serving West New York (primarily comprised of an expanded PATH and an expanded HBLR), and robust through-running commuter rail comprised of combined MNR, LIRR, and NJT services. Maintaining separate light rail, subway, and commuter rail networks lets each type of transit play to its strength and makes for a much better overall system network. Edited March 2, 2022 by engineerboy6561 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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