News: MTA revises a few of the proposed bus cuts.

[Shortline Bus]

While I thank Zman for listing today 3/19/10, on the NYCT planned subway revised cuts, here we focus on the Buses cuts/adjustments that offically saves a few lines at least. The final and revised bus cuts that includes saving a few lines, i would like for us to comment on anything related to NYCT or Bus cuts guys. Lets keep this chat cool please ok. Thanks in Advance.

Among Buses the BXM7a(Pelham Bay/Bruckner line) will merge with the BXM7b(City Island)routes and be extended rush hours in peak direction only to/from City Island as the BXm7a. This should take place in June/July of this year and requires no public hearing since City Island residents still will have rush hour bus service to/from Midtown.
IMO this would be a good time to rename this line the BXM12.

Some highlights along the revised plans among NYCT buses. 1)The B4 will operate to/from Sheapshead Bay/Emmons Ave. rush hours only. 2)The BX8 will replace the BX14 in the Bronx's Country Club section but be re-routed to serve the Pelham Bay station. 3)The BX18 and BX33 are saved but 24/7 BX33 service is gone. 4)m22 is also saved but operates appx. 6am-Midnight Weekdays and 7am-9pm weekends. 5)q42 becomes a rush hour only route. 6)The S66 will replace the S60 and be re-routed to serve Wagner College/St John's SI campus in Grymes Hill. 7)X1 peak hour service is maintained but during rush hours all X-1's start/end at 23nd and Broadway. For more please read the links.

And finally for LI Bus revised cuts, the N88(Jones Beach/Freeport summer bus special) and N26 are both saved but have service levels reduced.


NYCT final revised proposed Bus cuts. http://www.mta.info/news/pdf/NYCT_Su..._Revisions.pdf

Bus revised proposed cuts
http://www.mta.info/news/pdf/MTA%20B...ce_Changes.pdf

Long island Bus revised planned cuts
http://www.mta.info/news/pdf/LI%20Bu...ce_Changes.pdf

[jacsnyy]

This is a disappointing list. Brooklyn is still getting sandbagged.

[Shortline Bus]

Originally Posted by jacsnyy

This is a disappointing list. Brooklyn is still getting sandbagged.

I hear(maybe someone can confirm) that Chairman Walder only attended the public hearings in the Bronx. So it should not be a surprise that several of the bronx bus routes on the doomesday list are saved or revised.

[jacsnyy]

Originally Posted by Shortline Bus

I hear(maybe someone can confirm) that Chairman Walder only attended the public hearings in the Bronx. So it should not be a surprise that several of the bronx bus routes on the doomesday list are saved or revised.

Well, that's ridiculous. Brooklyn is the most populous borough and I feel like we're getting hit the hardest by these cuts.

[Kingsbridge Bus]

Good to hear the Bx18 is saved



What depot will the Bx8 be based out of when it replaces the Bx14

Split?

[Amtrak7]

Surprised that Q79 peak service was not saved...

[Kamen Rider]

I find it interesing that keeping the B13 for 8 blocks will cost them half a million dollars.

[mark1447]

Originally Posted by Kingsbridge Bus

Good to hear the Bx18 is saved



What depot will the Bx8 be based out of when it replaces the Bx14

Split?

It ill stick with WF im sure!

And im glade the Bx18 ill stick. M18... what ever

Bx33 im happy for its stay on Weekends..

What im wondering is if the Bx8 would be a bit to long.. Maybe an LTD will do?

And i see the wlll become ORANGE ...

Even with these changes the t/a aint gonna close the gap...

[Shortline Bus]

Originally Posted by Amtrak7

Surprised that Q79 peak service was not saved...

Amtrak and others it's not over yet. Ch.2/CBS-TV and other sources recently stated that Gov. Paterson barring a bailout from Washington, D.C, is urging the Board and Walder to do a fare increase by September-October of this year at the lastest systemwide to maintain most of the current services.

My gut is that I think some of the cuts/service changes will occur even if a fare hike occurs by this fall. Stay Tuned.

[Shortline Bus]

Originally Posted by mark1447

It ill stick with WF im sure!

And im glade the Bx18 ill stick. M18... what ever

Bx33 im happy for its stay on Weekends..

What im wondering is if the Bx8 would be a bit to long.. Maybe an LTD will do?

And i see the wlll become ORANGE ...

Even with these changes the t/a aint gonna close the gap...

Off topic in reply to Mark. Not trying to sound rude but the creates limited stop service on a route only if the following. a)route is 5 miles or longer b)headways of at least 6 minutes or less. This was made clear about 4 years ago at a meeting to someone when then NYCT chief Lawerence Reuter explained it when i still lived in NYC.


So Mark the BX8 will not be getting a limited just more buses/service.

[BrooklynBus]

Originally Posted by jacsnyy

Well, that's ridiculous. Brooklyn is the most populous borough and I feel like we're getting hit the hardest by these cuts.

You are not imagining this. Brooklyn is being hardest hit. Before this recent announcement, Brooklyn bus cuts amounted to more than any of the other boroughs and was even higher than the subway cuts Citywide.

While the change to the B4 maintains subway access to Plumb Beach residents for part of the day, acccording to the MTA's own numbers it only maintains service for 500 of the over 2000 impacted riders. Not nearly good enough. Also, the route is being moved from Neptune Avenue to Avenue Z making it inaccessible to some current riders since it is too far to walk from Avenue Z to Neptune Avenue (almost a half mile). Although it is only two blocks to the B1, that means more walking at the other end of the trip since in Bensonhurst the routes are a half mile apart.

[EE Broadway Local]

Isn't there a topic on this started by Zman also?

[Shortline Bus]

Originally Posted by EE Broadway Local

Isn't there a topic on this started by Zman also?

This one focuse on the revised bus cuts while Zman focuses on the subway.

[AllenJ24]

Originally Posted by Shortline Bus

Amtrak and others it's not over yet. Ch.2/CBS-TV and other sources recently stated that Gov. Paterson barring a bailout from Washington, D.C, is urging the Board and Walder to do a fare increase by September-October of this year at the lastest systemwide to maintain most of the current services.

My gut is that I think some of the cuts/service changes will occur even if a fare hike occurs by this fall. Stay Tuned.

Thank You Gov. Paterson for flushing New York down the drain.

[jacsnyy]

Originally Posted by AllenJ24

Thank You Gov. Paterson for flushing New York down the drain.

Amen. This shows how little NYC gets in return for being the most profitable city in the state... by far. But we're getting low balled. NYC Secession from the state, anyone?