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Almost certainly endangered fleets


aemoreira81

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Because of the MTA's austerity measures and service cuts, I would be surprised if ANY of these make it past June. The first two pictures represent almost certain goners.

 

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These models I also see going.

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Nice stuff . The second bus was on mjq like the acess a ride , they were 2 inside of mjq with the logo and blue and white last week on wensday . My friends dad works in mjq and he told me that there were 2 of them and he said amsterdam depot is closing and he has to do a pick for the M1 and M7 coming so their pick was on monday so he picked the m1 .

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Why, don't more people take X51

 

The X51's ridership is low compared to other express bus routes. It's not as fast as the <7>. The X32, however, is a convenient option for students heading to one of the top high schools in the city.

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The X51's ridership is low compared to other express bus routes. It's not as fast as the <7>. The X32, however, is a convenient option for students heading to one of the top high schools in the city.

Students have to pay full fare for buses anyway, so the private company that charters school buses for transport to Bronx Science isn't much more expensive than the X32 anyway. Most students go with the yellow bus so it makes sense for the route to be cut.

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The X51's ridership is low compared to other express bus routes. It's not as fast as the <7>. The X32, however, is a convenient option for students heading to one of the top high schools in the city.

 

The problem with the X32 is that almost all of the ridership is students, and the MTA can't absorb the cost (using Vallo is just $20 more for those Bronx High School students who pre-paid before April 1).

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The LIB minibus will definitely stay around, but obviously no longer on the Merrick Shuttle. Whenever a LIRR construction project calls for shuttle "vans", that's what will probably be used. I never liked the 1400 series LIB's, with their TINY destination signs...

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The LIB minibus will definitely stay around, but obviously no longer on the Merrick Shuttle. Whenever a LIRR construction project calls for shuttle "vans", that's what will probably be used. I never liked the 1400 series LIB's, with their TINY destination signs...

 

Speaking of minibus, I remember when I went to Philly few years ago and caught mini bus, Champion on ;septa: #127 at Neshimy Mall. It was not very comfortable because that was busy route and long route to Trenton.

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The LIB minibus will definitely stay around, but obviously no longer on the Merrick Shuttle. Whenever a LIRR construction project calls for shuttle "vans", that's what will probably be used. I never liked the 1400 series LIB's, with their TINY destination signs...

 

Actually, whenever shuttle vans are called for, they are usually chartered from Acme Bus (using Type A school buses), which has a yard just outside of the Hempstead Railroad Station.

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I don't think they use the Ford Vans anymore. I saw a new International in the Blue and White paint Scheme about a week ago with the number 1800.

 

I may check that out tomorrow. I notice that 1800 and 1801 are not on the TTMG roster anymore.

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The X51's ridership is low compared to other express bus routes. It's not as fast as the <7>. The X32, however, is a convenient option for students heading to one of the top high schools in the city.

 

more people use the X 51 than the X 32...the bus(if you want to call that a bus)in the 2nd photo which route it was on?

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The X51 deserves the axe, the X32 should stay

You've GOT to be kidding me

The X51's ridership is low compared to other express bus routes. It's not as fast as the <7>. The X32, however, is a convenient option for students heading to one of the top high schools in the city.

Statistics, if that is what you're using to back your argument, don't work here. I can testify why the X32 is NOT needed. Do you go to the school, or did you ever? Throughout my 4 years, I've seen enough to prove why we (the school community) do not need the X32.

-The $5.50 exact change only and the fact that regular student MetroCards don't work on them discourages many students who may as well could have benefited from it

-Inflexibility: many of these students have extracurriculars. The buses that leave for Queens go at around 3. The students who have extracurriculars or detention (for cutting) leave around 4:30 to 5:30 depending what it is. Vallo provides buses for extracurriculars and special events such as PTCs. On Regents and mid-year week, it provides additional buses to adapt to the students' needs. Those who have a morning exam go on the morning bus. Those who have an afternoon exam come at 11 or 12.

-Nature of the line: students like to socialise, regardless if it's 7 in the morning or 4 in the afternoon. The cheese bus, with it's informality, is ripe for such interaction. Meanwhile, the express bus has a more "serious aura" to it. Great for sleeping, but talking, maybe on the O5 suburbans when they are run.

-Many students already take the Vallo. Don't friends want to be with friends as long as possible? Why would one ride the Vallo and another ride the express bus home when both of them could ride the same bus?

-There's also the train for those who don't ride Vallo. It may be a long walk, but hey, 45%-60% of the people here do the walk everyday to Bedford Park.

 

Fast? Yes, when there's no traffic. Convenient? No, especially for those with extracurriculars.

 

One ought not to draw assumptions based on the buses and the communities of where the routes go through, but should base arguments based on the needs of the students.

Students have to pay full fare for buses anyway, so the private company that charters school buses for transport to Bronx Science isn't much more expensive than the X32 anyway. Most students go with the yellow bus so it makes sense for the route to be cut.

And the "green card" doesn't work on the buses, so they have to purchase the Express Bus 30-day card or something to really benefit from it. The farebox only takes coins. Where the hell could you come up with $5.50 in nickels, dimes and quarters?

The problem with the X32 is that almost all of the ridership is students, and the MTA can't absorb the cost (using Vallo is just $20 more for those Bronx High School students who pre-paid before April 1).

Exactly. You pay Vallo months before you start riding. They make the routes and you get the notice in the mailbox about which route you will be doing next year. They're more flexible in that they serve more areas of Queens. The X32 does a more general run in Eastern Queens, yes it does go through the homes of 50% of the school's population, but it's inflexiblity does not give it any value.

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vallo might as well take over the x32 lol

It has the potential. Just buy 3 more buses (both to knock out the X32 and to keep up with the growing population) It already absorbed Gagnon (wow it took me a minute to remember that name) after Gagnon's buses burned down last Feburary

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It has the potential. Just buy 3 more buses (both to knock out the X32 and to keep up with the growing population) It already absorbed Gagnon (wow it took me a minute to remember that name) after Gagnon's buses burned down last Feburary

 

Interesting that you mention them (they traded as Bronx Science Bus). They left behind a lot of questions too, which smells of criminal activity, including money not being refunded and final paychecks not coming or bouncing.

 

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/nyc/090304_Bus_Company_Shuts_Down_Owners_Vanish

 

There's a lot more to that story, and it definitely smells foul. And apparently, at least 3 or 4 of the buses are abandoned in East New York (still in one piece).

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Interesting that you mention them (they traded as Bronx Science Bus). They left behind a lot of questions too, which smells of criminal activity, including money not being refunded and final paychecks not coming or bouncing.

 

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/nyc/090304_Bus_Company_Shuts_Down_Owners_Vanish

 

There's a lot more to that story, and it definitely smells foul. And apparently, at least 3 or 4 of the buses are abandoned in East New York (still in one piece).

There were many rumours that they deliberately did it because they want the insurance money and then ran off with it

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