MTA Bus Operations: Deliveries, Moves & Transfers

[MysteriousBtrain]

Those assignments are not final. Eastchester is not getting any hybrids because they can't fuel them. What I think what might happen eventually is the Bx23 and Q50 run out of CP and the Q38 returns to LGA.

 

 

45 buses for LGA isn't enough which I think the whole assignment list is not correct.

I don't know the exact number but LGA has close to 90 1996 RTS's and they have to retire. Most likely about 36 Orion VII's are going to LGA but they still might need more because if they ever got the Q38 they would need more buses.

I'm very surprised CS is not on that list because they have 72 Orion V's and displaced hybrids are not going to cover all them buses when most of those depots have a whole bunch of RTS's to replace. Then again the options are probably going to be taken and the assignments will be adjusted.

I know that's why I said IF. And keep in mind that not EVERY RTS and Orion V are gonna be replaced with the LFS and XD40s. Also, did you forget bus's XD60 order which will not just replace the 1999 D60s bus but replace some of the bus RTS?

And yes the assignments are not official, but sometimes it's fun to wonder what if.

[Fresh Pond]

Those assignments are not final. Eastchester is not getting any hybrids because they can't fuel them. What I think what might happen eventually is the Bx23 and Q50 run out of CP and the Q38 returns to LGA.

 

 

45 buses for LGA isn't enough which I think the whole assignment list is not correct.

I don't know the exact number but LGA has close to 90 1996 RTS's and they have to retire. Most likely about 36 Orion VII's are going to LGA but they still might need more because if they ever got the Q38 they would need more buses.

I'm very surprised CS is not on that list because they have 72 Orion V's and displaced hybrids are not going to cover all them buses when most of those depots have a whole bunch of RTS's to replace. Then again the options are probably going to be taken and the assignments will be adjusted.

Who says they can't fuel them?

[Cait Sith]

Those assignments are not final. Eastchester is not getting any hybrids because they can't fuel them. What I think what might happen eventually is the Bx23 and Q50 run out of CP and the Q38 returns to LGA.

 

 

45 buses for LGA isn't enough which I think the whole assignment list is not correct.

I don't know the exact number but LGA has close to 90 1996 RTS's and they have to retire. Most likely about 36 Orion VII's are going to LGA but they still might need more because if they ever got the Q38 they would need more buses.

I'm very surprised CS is not on that list because they have 72 Orion V's and displaced hybrids are not going to cover all them buses when most of those depots have a whole bunch of RTS's to replace. Then again the options are probably going to be taken and the assignments will be adjusted.

 

Options don't need to be taken if buses are going to be shifted around. We'll have to wait and see.

[Micstromme]

Preliminary XD40 Assignments

 

This is subject to change, as you know nothing is in concrete. Dunno what's being traded around and/or retired (if any), but this is what we know...I'm just a messenger here passing the info along

 

7090-7155: East New York

7156-7217: Flatbush (yeah, I had that same look of shock too lol)

7218-7293: Grand Av

7294-7316: Ulmer Park

7317-7365: Fresh Pond

7366-7410: LaGuardia (MTA Bus order was lumped into the NYCT order)

 

Happy to know that GA will not be neglected here yet sad to hear that GA will lose some of their older buses. I wish that they could get the ZFs as they will likely be the last of the Nova RTS' to do service at NYCT. GA should definitely get the last of the order as they already have new buses. 76 buses are too many for that depot (like I can picture seeing those buses on the B47 or B57 and B60 mostly). 

 

I am going to seriously miss the 9600s and 6300s. Need to catch them while they are here.

[mta B43]

Happy to know that GA will not be neglected here yet sad to hear that GA will lose some of their older buses. I wish that they could get the ZFs as they will likely be the last of the Nova RTS' to do service at NYCT. GA should definitely get the last of the order as they already have new buses. 76 buses are too many for that depot (like I can picture seeing those buses on the B47 or B57 and B60 mostly).

 

I am going to seriously miss the 9600s and 6300s. Need to catch them while they are here.

I agree, not to mention GA is one of the best maintained depots around so it would make sense to keep the older buses until the last of the buses from the new order is completed.

[T J Trainman]

Smh. ECH does NOT have battery chargers for the shit boxes. That's why they don't have hybrids.

[Cait Sith]

Smh. ECH does NOT have battery chargers for the shit boxes. That's why they don't have hybrids.

 

They could always get them.

[T J Trainman]

Well yeah they can, but until then you won't see hybrids at ECH.

[Micstromme]

So when the XD40s and LFS all arrive, will they keep a few Orion Vs and RTS like they did to the Orion V Ex-Bee lines?

 

Boy, I hope so.

 

As far as I am concerned, they can send all of the remainders of those buses over to Grand Avenue and Queens Village. 

 

Also, I do feel that QV should be last to get new LFs in the entire system. That and Maspeth should receive their XD40s last, just like Gleason did a few years ago.

Edited December 21, 2014 by Micstromme

[aemoreira81]

If there are not enough new buses to replace the old RTSs and O5s at MTA Bus, I would expect the 1998-1999 Novas to replace them, until the option order comes in (if taken) that would knock off those buses and the oldest NYCT hybrids. (Also keep in mind that an RFP will be needed soon to replace the O7 CNGs, as those must be retired between 2017 and 2019 when their tanks expire.)

Edited December 21, 2014 by aemoreira81

[MysteriousBtrain]

Based on the rumored XD40s and LFS roster that was mentioned recently, I made a full fantasy bus roster that shows what the depots could look like in the future (without the option order):

Eastchester: 10 Orion VII Hybrid

Gun Hill: 71 2009 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 41 2015 LFS, 67 2002-03 D60, 33 2010 LFSA, 45 2012-13 XD60, 34 2011-12 LFSA (SBS)

Kingsbridge: 15 1999 Orion V, 70 2009 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 40 2015 LFS, 60 2002-03 D60, 17 2011 LFSA, 45 2012 XD60, 16 2011 LFSA (SBS)

West Farms: 10 1998 RTS, 62 2003 Orion VII CNG, 135 2004 Orion VII CNG, 61 2012 C40LF, 29 2002-03 D60, 32 2012 LFSA

East New York: 21 1999 Orion V, 56 2005 Orion VII Hybrid, 54 2006-07 Orion VII Hybrid, 45 2011 XD40, 66 2014-15 XD40

Flatbush: 59 1998-1999 RTs, 86 2009 Orion VII NG hybrid, 62 2015 XD40, 40 2012-13 LFSA (SBS)

Fresh Pond: 12 1997-98 RTS, 85 2004-05 Orion VII Hybrid, 60 2009 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 46 2015 XD40

Grand Av: 41 1998 RTS, 39 2009-10 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 76 2015 XD40

Jackie Gleason: 62 2003 Orion VII CNG, 214 2011-13 C40LF

Ulmer Park: 70 1998-99 RTS, 45 2011 XD40, 23 2015 XD40, 30 2014-15 LFS

Spring Creek: 53 2012 C40LF

Manhattanville: 62 2004 Orion VII Hybrid, 59 2005 Orion VII Hybrid, 48 2006 Orion VII Hybrid, 65 2008 Orion VII NG Hybrid

Quill: 23 1998-99 RTS, 15 2009 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 90 2011 Orion VII OPA 10 Hybrid, 33 2002-03 D60, 39 2012 LFSA, 22 2011 LFSA (SBS), 19 2012 LFSA (SBS)

Hale: 37 2006 Orion VII Hybrid, 33 2008 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 52 2010 LFSA (SBS)

Tuskegee: 60 2002-03 D60, 62 2011-12 LFSA, 4 2010 LFSA

Baisey Park: 63 2006-07 Orion VII Hybrid, 25 2015 XD60

Casey Stengel: 37 1999 Orion V, 76 2006-07 Orion VII Hybrid, 69 2009 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 46 2011-12 LFSA

College Point: 160 2011-12 C40LF

Far Rockaway: 47 2006-07 Orion VII Hybrid

Jamaica: 28 1998-99 RTS, 36 2010 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 45 2011 LFS, 82 2015 LFS

JFK: 1 2006 Orion VII, 80 2006-07 Orion VII Hybrid, , 47 2009 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 50 2015 XD60 Rotated C40LF units from Spring Creek

LGA: 105 2006-07 Orion VII Hybrid, 50 2009 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 45 2015 XD40 Rotated C40LF units from College Point

Queens Village: 65 1997-98 RTS, 63 2004 Orion VII Hybrid, 36 2009 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 45 2011 LFS, 23 2015 LFS

Castleton:  80 2008 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 66 2015 LFS

Charleston: 8 1998-99 RTS, 65 2014 LFS

Yukon: 33 2009 Orion VII NG Hybrid, 66 2015 LFS, 39 2009 Orion VII NG Hybrid (SBS)

Keep in mind that this is 1. not an official roster and 2. based on my opinions from what I read. You all have every right to believe anything you want. Until later in 2015, when we find out if the assignments are true.....
 

Edited December 21, 2014 by MysteriousBtrain

[Micstromme]

Can anyone confirm that either 9357 and/or 9624 is at Grand Avenue? I heard that these buses were there now.

Edited December 21, 2014 by Micstromme

[T J Trainman]

9624 is GAs. Also, 3777 JFK back to BP.

[Fresh Pond]

Well yeah they can, but until then you won't see hybrids at ECH.

For all we know, they can be installed already or in the process of installing them

Edited December 21, 2014 by Fresh Pond

[Q43LTD]

9624 is GAs. Also, 3777 JFK back to BP.

3777 been back at BP

[NewFlyer 230]

Spring Creek used to fuel both CNG and Hybrid buses. When the C40's came in they lost their Orion VII's. Does Spring Creek still have the ability to fuel Orion VII hybrids?

[S78 via Hylan]

I'm glad GA is getting a lot of new buses. They need them. Plus those O5's need to go anyway.

[Blitz]

Well yeah they can, but until then you won't see hybrids at ECH.

There are hybrids at MCH, but they don't have a battery conditioner yet...

[Fresh Pond]

Spring Creek used to fuel both CNG and Hybrid buses. When the C40's came in they lost their Orion VII's. Does Spring Creek still have the ability to fuel Orion VII hybrids?

If they can fuel the MCIs, then yes...hybrids use the same diesel fuel as any other bus

[Micstromme]

I'm glad GA is getting a lot of new buses. They need them. Plus those O5's need to go anyway.

 

I am sorta happy for them as well. I just wish that they would get their bath of newbies (they are supposedly getting more than every other depot this go around at 76 xd40s) last so that the 1997 Novas and 1998 Vs could last a little longer. They are all work horses. I also wish QV  would get the third pair of buses that Jam is set to receive so that their Novas won't be outplaced so quickly.

 

But I am glad that so many 96xxs are making the mecca to Maspeth as I hope GA keeps them. 9626 is now there on the Q59 this morning.

[Orion VII 4 Life]

If they can fuel the MCIs, then yes...hybrids use the same diesel fuel as any other bus

I think they need some extra equipment for the batteries though...

[NewFlyer 230]

If they can fuel the MCIs, then yes...hybrids use the same diesel fuel as any other bus

No I didn't use the correct words I mean could Spring Creek charge up hybrid batteries or whatever they do to the batteries?

[Fresh Pond]

No I didn't use the correct words I mean could Spring Creek charge up hybrid batteries or whatever they do to the batteries?

They had hybrids before the C40s came in

[NewFlyer 230]

They had hybrids before the C40s came in

Yeah I know they had 31 of them in the 3600's. Now they are at BP and JFK.

What I mean is as if December 2014 could SC charge up a hybrid battery.

[T J Trainman]

Does it really matter about the battery chargers? SC will never see hybrids ever again unless there's a major problem if some sort. Why would they need battery chargers for the hybrids??