Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 4, 2011 Share #26 Posted March 4, 2011 How much longer could the wait times on the be? The wait times between the train is a good 20 - 30 minutes and we're talking about the middle of the day on a weekend, so they would definitely have to run more trains and longer ones at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R160 Posted March 4, 2011 Share #27 Posted March 4, 2011 The wait times between the train is a good 20 - 30 minutes and we're talking about the middle of the day on a weekend, so they would definitely have to run more trains and longer ones at that. It was sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 4, 2011 Share #28 Posted March 4, 2011 The (G)'s timetable makes mention that a train shows up every 5-10 minutes. A temporarily extension onto the IND Queens Boulevard Line would change it to 10-15 minutes. That isn't too bad. However train riders would have to get used to running to shorter trains during the weekends lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted March 4, 2011 Share #29 Posted March 4, 2011 That's during the rush hours and middays. Evenings and weekends, it runs at 10 to 15 minute intervals and 20 minutes during the overnight hours. Plus, it takes approximately 20 minutes to get from 23 St-Ely Av to Forest Hills (using the as a reference), so your argument is invalid as you'd increase headways to over 30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 4, 2011 Share #30 Posted March 4, 2011 Is there any spare trains in the Jamaica Yard that could be taken out, and used on the . Any R46's, R160's. There has to be something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted March 4, 2011 Share #31 Posted March 4, 2011 It doesn't matter what Jamaica has, if there isn't any money there to pay for crews to operate the trains, said trains aren't moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted March 4, 2011 Share #32 Posted March 4, 2011 The wait times between the train is a good 20 - 30 minutes and we're talking about the middle of the day on a weekend, so they would definitely have to run more trains and longer ones at that. They won't do that. Then they will have to put condcutors on the trains since they will be longer than 300 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 4, 2011 Share #33 Posted March 4, 2011 Face palm. They do that on the weekdays already. It's only on the weekends that the is operated by one person only. They could have some people work overtime during construction. A limited amount of number of people sure, but hopefully enough to temporarily replace the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted March 4, 2011 Share #34 Posted March 4, 2011 Yes, but it costs extra to have condcutors on weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 4, 2011 Share #35 Posted March 4, 2011 I sure hope that you realize you are spelling the word conductor wrong. It does cost money, but they do the same thing with the when the can't access the Culver Line, and runs with the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 4, 2011 Share #36 Posted March 4, 2011 Ok time to clarify something with this whole thing... Most of the posts here make it seem like the isn't running on the QBL corridor at all. All its doing is operating via 6 Av/63 St instead of 8 Av/53 St. Queens isn't really affected except at those stations mentioned. Shuttle buses work perfectly fine, its only 3 stations (all within walking distance if you didn't know that) there's no need for the to return to 71 Av except to please some railfans for nostalgia purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted March 4, 2011 Share #37 Posted March 4, 2011 Ok time to clarify something with this whole thing... Most of the posts here make it seem like the isn't running on the QBL corridor at all. All its doing is operating via 6 Av/63 St instead of 8 Av/53 St. Queens isn't really affected except at those stations mentioned. Shuttle buses work perfectly fine, its only 3 stations (all within walking distance if you didn't know that) there's no need for the to return to 71 Av except to please some railfans for nostalgia purposes. I am sure some weekend for next 2 years the will run on the line as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoSpectacular Posted March 4, 2011 Share #38 Posted March 4, 2011 Sorry to burst your bubble OP but the (E)'s hardly seen normal service for the past couple of years- it's been long overdue for some revamps which is exactly what they're doing. Yeah, the local runs on the Queens Boulevard Line were/are excruciating but what could/can you do? There's other ways of getting around- take advantage of the opportunity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted March 4, 2011 Share #39 Posted March 4, 2011 I am sure some weekend for next 2 years the will run on the line as well. not happening due to the stupid supervisor on queens blvd they should just cut the and have the replace the at jamaica center with some ®'s turning at 71st the makes simular stops like the just use the crews from the not for nothing the is nothing when it goes down 63rd its just a waste of space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCTSignals Posted March 4, 2011 Share #40 Posted March 4, 2011 Who knows when they'll finish. The still hasn't gotten the whole falsfication of signal inspections dealt with and they admit that they don't know how to resolve the problem. Really? what does that have to do with anything ? management of personnel and management of Capital construc. are 2 different things..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted March 4, 2011 Share #41 Posted March 4, 2011 not happening due to the stupid supervisor on queens blvd they should just cut the and have the replace the at jamaica center with some ®'s turning at 71st the makes simular stops like the just use the crews from the not for nothing the is nothing when it goes down 63rd its just a waste of space Agreed. Granted it long walk at 42nd to transfer. Other that several of the Bway stations are actually closer to the 8th Ave line as well. i.e Times Sq, City Hall, Rector and Whitehall. Only negative is that the superviors don't want to run all night service on the Bay Ridge/4th Ave line. The only explantion is that the also closes the Lower Manhattan Bway stations on weekends for go's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted March 4, 2011 Share #42 Posted March 4, 2011 Agreed. Granted it long walk at 42nd to transfer. Other that several of the Bway stations are actually closer to the 8th Ave line as well. i.e Times Sq, City Hall, Rector and Whitehall.Only negative is that the superviors don't want to run all night service on the Bay Ridge/4th Ave line. The only explantion is that the also closes the Lower Manhattan Bway stations on weekends for go's. at night if the lwr manhattan stations are not close have the go to canal or whitehall sts during the overnight hours. the ta did have the run to jamaica center go to replace the in the summer of 2001 but those annoying riders pulled a political clout and eversince that happend they never did this go again , All of this had to do with the fact the was a local line and i lol becasue after that the was local almost every single weekend and went via the F line via 53rd and 6th ave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 4, 2011 Share #43 Posted March 4, 2011 not happening due to the stupid supervisor on queens blvd they should just cut the and have the replace the at jamaica center with some ®'s turning at 71st the makes simular stops like the just use the crews from the not for nothing the is nothing when it goes down 63rd its just a waste of space This actually sounds like a good idea but the way I see it is that people are gonna complain about a loss of express service (although the is right there). Plus when they do G.Os in Lower Manhattan, they make one side go via the Manhattan Br and the other does regular service. Besides IMO it would make the a tad bit too long If your idea was to happen, there would have to me no G.Os in Lower Manattan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted March 4, 2011 Share #44 Posted March 4, 2011 The only way I'd see them extending the to Parsons/Archer is if there was work done on the Queens Blvd express tracks and the 53rd and 63rd Street lines, thus rendering all those lines inaccessible. The was probably extended in 2001 because 53rd Street was closed and 63rd Street to Queens Blvd was still limited service (if any, depending on when) only, thus effectively splitting the in two. Since the couldn't run from Chambers to Parsons normally, it only made sense to send the Forest Hills-bound ®s to Jamaica Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted March 4, 2011 Share #45 Posted March 4, 2011 http://mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_EF.htm Enjoy :tup: -grabs an interesting novel, updates the ipod tracks, and hops an - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted March 4, 2011 Share #46 Posted March 4, 2011 Wait a Second... The projets are Renovating the 53 Street line and Extending the to 2 Avenue? I thought SAS would be done in 2015 or something like that! :eek: S L O W ! Ok time to clarify something with this whole thing... Most of the posts here make it seem like the isn't running on the QBL corridor at all. All its doing is operating via 6 Av/63 St instead of 8 Av/53 St. Queens isn't really affected except at those stations mentioned. Shuttle buses work perfectly fine, its only 3 stations (all within walking distance if you didn't know that) there's no need for the to return to 71 Av except to please some railfans for nostalgia purposes. Thats all it is really, I dont see whats so hard about getting off at Rockerfeller Center to walk one block East, or 57th Street for that matter. not happening due to the stupid supervisor on queens blvd they should just cut the and have the replace the at jamaica center with some ®'s turning at 71st the makes simular stops like the just use the crews from the not for nothing the is nothing when it goes down 63rd its just a waste of space Thats actually not true, Lex-63rd & 57th-6th picks up a lot of passengers during the late night hours, same goes for weekends. The cuts the trouble from the . Agreed. Granted it long walk at 42nd to transfer. Other that several of the Bway stations are actually closer to the 8th Ave line as well. i.e Times Sq, City Hall, Rector and Whitehall.Only negative is that the superviors don't want to run all night service on the Bay Ridge/4th Ave line. The only explantion is that the also closes the Lower Manhattan Bway stations on weekends for go's. This actually sounds like a good idea but the way I see it is that people are gonna complain about a loss of express service (although the is right there). Plus when they do G.Os in Lower Manhattan, they make one side go via the Manhattan Br and the other does regular service. Besides IMO it would make the a tad bit too long If your idea was to happen, there would have to me no G.Os in Lower Manattan If this were a weekend G.O, I'd actually disagree, the World Trade Center station has had an increase in passenger usage and its at a pretty high demand especially during the weekend, it would cripple the & . That's why very rarely do you ever see train G.Os terminating at the WTC station, that station needs all the trains it can get, especially when Fulton Street is being bypassed in both directions. Replacing the with the during the late night, that is actually a good idea considering that the runs local late nights anyway, however, the WTC station does see some significant usage during late nights and the is the only line to serve it, so it's a mixed idea in my view. On the Queens side of things, the is always on the express and the runs local during the late nights, but on the weekend side of things, you dont want to see them Queens Riders with torches & pitchforks running after your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E train line Posted March 5, 2011 Share #47 Posted March 5, 2011 It will be long time great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted March 6, 2011 Share #48 Posted March 6, 2011 Ok time to clarify something with this whole thing... Most of the posts here make it seem like the isn't running on the QBL corridor at all. All its doing is operating via 6 Av/63 St instead of 8 Av/53 St. Queens isn't really affected except at those stations mentioned. Shuttle buses work perfectly fine, its only 3 stations (all within walking distance if you didn't know that) there's no need for the to return to 71 Av except to please some railfans for nostalgia purposes. What about simply extending the one stop to Queens Plaza when the is running and if necessary to 71-Continental (possibly as an express to speed up the time of the run) during overnights? That to me might be a compromise that can be worked, especially if it keeps the at its normal length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 6, 2011 Share #49 Posted March 6, 2011 What about simply extending the one stop to Queens Plaza when the is running and if necessary to 71-Continental (possibly as an express to speed up the time of the run) during overnights? That to me might be a compromise that can be worked, especially if it keeps the at its normal length. Queens Plaza, maybe. 71-Continental, no. There's no need for it past Court Square since the does the same exact thing at nights. If they want QB express service, they can just wait for the that should be arriving right befind the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted March 6, 2011 Share #50 Posted March 6, 2011 Not to get off topic. In this type of GO when the 53rd Tubes are closed, IMO this is a scenrio where the should return to the QB line. I am sure it would be cheaper than running all of these shuttle buses. Also there should be free boarding at 21st St-Queensbridge, Queens(boro) Plaza and Court Sq-23rd St Station/45th Rd also because when doesn't run into Bronx, they always have M3 assists shuttle bus with free boarding at station stops, while B13, B20 and Q58 at Fresh Pond Rd/Forest Av does same thing when skips Fresh Pond Rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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