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[texassubwayfan555]

The R211's are going to have operator-facing cameras and cab audio recording. Source: here, PDF WARNING. What do you all think about this.

[trainfan22]

There's an R62 on the southern half of the today if anybody's interested. What a pleasant surprise as I walked down the steps at Flatbush and seen that 62 sitting in the station 1595 has dead motors though.

[RandomRider0101]

2 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

There's an R62 on the southern half of the today if anybody's interested. What a pleasant surprise as I walked down the steps at Flatbush and seen that 62 sitting in the station 1595 has dead motors though.

Yeah, they've been there since yesterday. I caught one on my way home from work.

[RandomRider0101]

So I just missed an R62 , and just seen R142/As from the  on the . Lexington is looking quite interesting right now.

[texassubwayfan555]

Does anyone think the R68/a will get CBTC? They are not as old as the other SMEEs and I have not heard about them getting replaced soon.

[RandomRider0101]

6 minutes ago, texassubwayfan555 said:

Does anyone think the R68/a will get CBTC? They are not as old as the other SMEEs and I have not heard about them getting replaced soon.

1. No, the R68/As are not getting CBTC. 

2. Yes, the R68/As are the youngest SMEES.

3. The R68/A replacement hasn't been announced yet, but is likely in the planning stages by now.

[texassubwayfan555]

26 minutes ago, RandomRider0101 said:

The R68/A replacement ... is likely in the planning stages by now.

Then is there a planned replacement for the older R62/As?

[trainfan22]

6 minutes ago, texassubwayfan555 said:

Then is there a planned replacement for the older R62/As?

Yes the R262 is the replacement for the R62/62A fleet.

[texassubwayfan555]

Has anyone made a R262 information thread?

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

13 minutes ago, texassubwayfan555 said:

Has anyone made a R262 information thread?

Yes

https://www.nyctransitforums.com/topic/52885-r262-r62r62a-replacement-information-discussion/page/16/#comment-1116404

 

[texassubwayfan555]

Thank you BM5 via Woodhaven. The thread looks like it has been dead since January.

[Calvin]

If you include the weekend g/o for the  between Bowling Green and 149 St-Grand Concourse, it's almost like the  uses all the R142s. Weekday and weekends, you'll see 6301-7130 (minus 6346-6350) on the line. On occasion, you'll see 1101-1250 and 7131-7180 popping up on that line. 

 

And, a special guest on the for the labor day weekend

 

Edited September 5, 2022 by Calvin

[CenSin]

On 9/3/2022 at 10:50 AM, texassubwayfan555 said:

The R211's are going to have operator-facing cameras and cab audio recording. Source: here, PDF WARNING. What do you all think about this.

Can’t say the MTA isn’t preparing for climate change. lol

Quote

All systems and subsystems shall be functional and shall provide full performance within the temperature range of minus 4 deg. F to 158 deg. F [-20°C to 70°C]. For interior passenger information displays, the operating temperature range shall be 32 deg. F to 122 deg. F [0 deg. C to 50 deg. C]. For CCTV cameras the operating temperature range shall be minus 4 deg. F to 140 deg. F [-20 deg. C to 60 deg. C]. Temperature ranges for HVAC system performance are defined in Section 7.2.1. The maximum ambient fresh air temperature is 120°F (49°C) as described in Appendix A.

Before the high end of the temperature range is reached, all the passengers would be dead from the heat.

Edited September 5, 2022 by CenSin

[texassubwayfan555]

3 minutes ago, CenSin said:

climate change

How do cab cameras have anything to do with climate?

[RandomRider0101]

33 minutes ago, Calvin said:

If you include the weekend g/o for the  between Bowling Green and 149 St-Grand Concourse, it's almost like the  uses all the R142s. Weekday and weekends, you'll see 6301-7130 (minus 6346-6350) on the line. On occasion, you'll see 1101-1250 and 7131-7180 popping up on that line. 

 

And, a special guest on the for the labor day weekend

 

That might be the same R62  that I missed earlier, depending on when this pic was taken.

[RandomRider0101]

1 hour ago, texassubwayfan555 said:

Then is there a planned replacement for the older R62/As?

 

1 hour ago, trainfan22 said:

Yes the R262 is the replacement for the R62/62A fleet.

Yes, what @trainfan22 said. The R262s will be pushed back due to what's happening with the R211s. At this point I believe the R262s will go to Alstom since Kawasaki might go out of business after the R211s. 

From what I've heard, Kawasaki has expressed no interest in the R262 contract and have already been planning/considering their exit from the rail business for quite some time now; plus they've been having problems with their current orders, including the R211s. All of this is why I suspect that Kawasaki will leave the rail market once they finish the R211s.

[CenSin]

1 hour ago, texassubwayfan555 said:

How do cab cameras have anything to do with climate?

Look at the operating temperatures.

[texassubwayfan555]

I think the MTA really needs to speed up implementation of CBTC . I read somewhere that there were plans in the 1990s for the whole system to be CBTC by now. The MTA should also stop lying about about OPTO Being unsafe (it is used across the London Underground), and PSDs being impossible to retrofit (Paris Metro Line 1 is over 100 years old and uses them). (Yes I know that SMEEs/75 foot cars are an obstacle on some lines)

[RandomRider0101]

27 minutes ago, texassubwayfan555 said:

I think the MTA really needs to speed up implementation of CBTC . I read somewhere that there were plans in the 1990s for the whole system to be CBTC by now. The MTA should also stop lying about about OPTO Being unsafe (it is used across the London Underground), and PSDs being impossible to retrofit (Paris Metro Line 1 is over 100 years old and uses them). (Yes I know that SMEEs/75 foot cars are an obstacle on some lines)

Once all cars and doors are the same size ( 60 feet & 58 inches respectively), I think they should be able to implement them. The A-division cars are 51.4 feet, or something like that.

[T to Dyre Avenue]

2 hours ago, Calvin said:

If you include the weekend g/o for the  between Bowling Green and 149 St-Grand Concourse, it's almost like the  uses all the R142s. Weekday and weekends, you'll see 6301-7130 (minus 6346-6350) on the line. On occasion, you'll see 1101-1250 and 7131-7180 popping up on that line. 

 

And, a special guest on the for the labor day weekend

 

That’s a real blast from the past there.

[texassubwayfan555]

What is the deal with some of the rebuilt platform edges like in the picture?

[RandomRider0101]

Question about the NTTs - Is it possible to have 3-car sets (A-B-A), or do New Tech sets have to be at least 4 cars (A-B-B-A)? In other words, can two A-cars share a B-car, or does each A-car need its own B-car?

I ask this in connection to the Franklin Shuttle, which will need to be at least 3 cars of 60 footers when the R68s retire. But if 3-car sets aren't possible, then the  platforms will have to be modified accordingly in order to accomodate 4-car trains.

[texassubwayfan555]

I would think three car sets (or eve singles) would be possible as according to this document, every NTT car carries all its equipment needed to operate.

[RandomRider0101]

42 minutes ago, texassubwayfan555 said:

I would think three car sets (or eve singles) would be possible as according to this document, every NTT car carries all its equipment needed to operate.

Is the "minimum of 3 separate zones" what you're referencing?

If so, then I guess that means 3-car sets are possible with NTTs. 

Edited September 5, 2022 by RandomRider0101

[texassubwayfan555]

No, I meant that each car has its own separate brakes, propulsion, HVAC, etc., so they probably can easily be disconnected from each other and rearranged into 3 car sets or even singles.